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Hey guys! I recently purchased a GTX 1080 for an upgrade from a MSI GTX 970. This is my full spec (Just incase someone sees a potential bottle-necking problem)
CPU: Intel Xeon E3 1241 V3 (Base 3.5MHz) (Current 3.9MHz)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 Gaming 5
RAM: 2x Kingston HyperX Fury Red 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
GPU: GTX 1080 SC
Memory Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
PSU: Corsair Builder 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
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The jump from a 970 to a 1080 was a big jump but now looking at the difference in performance I can barely see it. I know game s that I have been playing(Fallout4 and Borderlands PS) which are not games to benchmark on but buy the 1080 and only playing on 1080p I was expecting this card to breeze through it. But instead I only see Higher max fps but the same average fps as my 970. I don't know if something is holding my GPU back but I am hoping that you all may help me figure this out. Borderlands PS notable FPS (Max:234 Minimum: 40 to 30, Note GPU and CPU Load are at 40 to 30%)
Fallout 4 notable FPS(Max:60 due to Vsync forced Minimum: 20 to 30 Same gpu and cpu load as BPS) All games are on Geforce Experience Max but I do not have Geforce Experience installed just used the recommended setting form when I had it.
My concerns as of now: CPU isn't powerful enough, PSU is not sufficient enough, or my GPU is malfunctioning.
I have fully wiped my drivers and reinstalled them but it doesn't seem to change anything in-game.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:19:23
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Go to UserBenchmark and run a test 
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:20:03
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Well if you have the same average fps with gtx 1080 compared to gtx 970 means that you are certainly cpu limited and the main reason might be that you are playing at 1080p . If you keep the same rig and play the same games at 1440p or 4K you will certainly see a big difference between gtx1080 and gtx 970 . So about your concerns your PSU is more than capable to run your system or even 1080sli . The only reason i can see is cpu limit so what you can do is upgrade your monitor to an 1440p or your cpu to an i5 4690k or better (i7 ). i5 and i7 processors are better than xeon for gaming mainly because of better single core performance . Can you tell me your average fps of gtx 970 and gtx 1080 at your favorite games and also the most important cpu usage and how many cores are used ?
post edited by Raldi92 - 2016/06/12 13:07:44
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:24:41
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I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:25:20
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I agree with Raldi, I think its your CPU. Maybe check your PhysX settings... set it to your GPU instead of Auto.
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Raldi92
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:26:40
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pbmpharmacist
I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
It has nothing to do with gtx 1080 he is cpu limited
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:36:06
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No offence but i wonder why peoples buy gtx 1080 for 1080p ? Unless you a have a really hight refresh rate monitor 140-160Hz gtx 1080 is pure overkill and even gtx 1070 is overkill for only 1080p 60hz .
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:38:01
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@Hitha I only use Valley currently. My Valley score was 4200. I tried to screen capture it but It sadly failed. @pbmpharmacist Please do not allow me to stop you from getting this card. I am still learning about pcs and most likely am doing something wrong
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:39:33
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I would agree with you if it wasn't that I am still getting bad fps even with this card on 1080p
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:40:48
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pbmpharmacist
I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
Every single post I've seen from people with issues have either systems with a slow CPU clock or are playing games at 1080p and expecting a huge difference in performance. Both cases are true for this one. He's being CPU limited and playing at too small of a resolution to make full use of the card. This isn't a beta test at all.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:41:05
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Raldi92
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I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
It has nothing to do with gtx 1080 he is cpu limited
If I am CPU limited why is my CPU usage 40%
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:42:27
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I'm buying a 1070 for a 1080p system. My monitor is a 21:9 aspect ratio (2560x1080) with a second 1680x1050 monitor attached. I still get frame rate limited in certain titles once my graphical patches and such are added. Dragons age is a prime problem child. Some of the levels are way too intensive for my 970. Not to mention games that do work with the Super wide display I have, which slow to a crawl on my current setup.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:43:24
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Hitha
Go to UserBenchmark and run a test
@Hitha I only use Valley currently. My Valley score was 4200. I tried to screen capture it but It sadly failed. @pbmpharmacist Please do not allow me to stop you from getting this card. I am still learning about pcs and most likely am doing something wrong
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:45:02
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Raldi92
No offence but i wonder why peoples buy gtx 1080 for 1080p ? Unless you a have a really hight refresh rate monitor 140-160Hz gtx 1080 is pure overkill and even gtx 1070 is overkill for only 1080p 60hz .
Some people like myself have to choose between either a monitor or new graphics card. Going with the 1080 allows you to easily use DSR on our 1080p monitor for better visuals. Plus after a year or 2, the 1080 will no longer be overkill for 1080p 60 as graphics continuously become more demanding. Just my thoughts on the matter and why I also bought a 1080 SC. 
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:48:16
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Your CPU is at 40% due to being multi-core. Each CPU on a 4 core system would show 25% at full load or higher drounding on the turbo boost frequency. Most games can't use much more than the first core, especially shooters. Strategy games and simulations can do more parallel stuff with multiple cores though. This is why SLI hasn't been very good lately, the game engines just aren't being built with that in mind. Newer game engines targeting DX12 might start taking advantage of multiple GPUsources, but only really high end games will take the time and money to optimize for that.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:53:56
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ipkha
Your CPU is at 40% due to being multi-core. Each CPU on a 4 core system would show 25% at full load or higher drounding on the turbo boost frequency. Most games can't use much more than the first core, especially shooters. Strategy games and simulations can do more parallel stuff with multiple cores though. This is why SLI hasn't been very good lately, the game engines just aren't being built with that in mind. Newer game engines targeting DX12 might start taking advantage of multiple GPUsources, but only really high end games will take the time and money to optimize for that.
Could you recommend me a CPU, LGA1150?
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 09:59:29
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I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
It has nothing to do with gtx 1080 he is cpu limited
If I am CPU limited why is my CPU usage 40%
First of all cpu usage doesn't shows if you are cpu limited specially on multi core processors this is why i ask you to tell me how many cores are used under gaming because most of the games use not more than 1 or 2 cores let alone 4 or 8 . This is why processors with less cores but faster single core performance are better for gaming. What you can do to see if you are cpu limited is to low your graphic settings and see if you have fps improvements with gtx 1080 compared to max settings .Let us know .
post edited by Raldi92 - 2016/06/12 10:02:53
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:02:41
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I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
Every single post I've seen from people with issues have either systems with a slow CPU clock or are playing games at 1080p and expecting a huge difference in performance.
Both cases are true for this one. He's being CPU limited and playing at too small of a resolution to make full use of the card.
This isn't a beta test at all.
This forum is full of people having problems. Performance is bad. Rise of the tomb raider doesn't work. Plastic under the screw. And many complaints about coil whine or buzzing. I've always bought evga cards but I'm refusing delivery.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:04:16
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Raldi92
Well if you have the same average fps with gtx 1080 compared to gtx 970 means that you are certainly cpu limited and the main reason might be that you are playing at 1080p . If you keep the same rig and play the same games at 1440p or 4K you will certainly see a big difference between gtx1080 and gtx 970 .
So about your concers your PSU is more than capable to run your system or even 1080sli . The only reason i can see is cpu limit so what you can do is upgrade your monitor to an 1440p or your cpu to an i5 4960k or better (i7 ). i5 and i7 processors are better than xeon for gaming mainly because of better single core performance .
Can you tell me your average fps of gtx 970 and gtx 1080 at your favorite games and also the most important cpu usage and how many cores are used ?
970: Original could not run Fallout4 maxed very well. 60 when walking in none crowded areas and 20-30 when fighting mobs and closed areas. 1080: I can max fallout 4 and have stable fps with godrays. When simply walk around and fight in smaller areas 60 when I even touch diamond city or around the area, 30-40 some times 20fps. 970:BLPS I ran max with medium physx and got steady 80-60 until participles got out of hand then it would dip 20 1080: I ran max with ultra physx and got 170fps and would have random drops of 40-30 and when physx was in play 40-20 in some areas 100 in others.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:05:36
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Raldi92
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I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
It has nothing to do with gtx 1080 he is cpu limited
If I am CPU limited why is my CPU usage 40%
First of all cpu usage doesn't shows if you are cpu limited specially on multi core processors this is why i ask you to tell me how many cores are used under gaming because most of the games use not more than 1 or 2 cores let alone 4 or 8 . This is why processors with less cores but faster single core performance are better for gaming.
What you can do to see if you are cpu limited is to low your graphic settings and see if you have fps improvements with gtx 1080 compared to max settings .Let us know .
My cpu has quad core with 8core threads
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:08:19
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Also I am sorry if anyone is frustrated with me. I am still new to computers and just frustrated about this issue I am having.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:12:39
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Chan0man
Also I am sorry if anyone is frustrated with me. I am still new to computers and just frustrated about this issue I am having.
No frustration here man just trying to help . I understand that it's frustating when you buy new stuff and it doesn't gives you expected performance but in this case gtx 1080 is not to be blamed . Please try what i told you and tell us the result .
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:13:46
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Your CPU is not the fastest available, but is a decent CPU. Try to run the FireStrike benchmark, in the free version of 3DMark, it will bench both the graphics card and physics (on the CPU) we will have a better idea after looking at that to see if the GPU is being held back back by the CPU. Link the results or an image of the different scores
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:18:34
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Your CPU is not the fastest available, but is a decent CPU. Try to run the FireStrike benchmark, in the free version of 3DMark, it will bench both the graphics card and physics (on the CPU) we will have a better idea after looking at that to see if the GPU is being held back back by the CPU. Link the results or an image of the different scores
I am currently downloading the benchmark. I will update you with the score soon.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:27:35
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Chan0man
Also I am sorry if anyone is frustrated with me. I am still new to computers and just frustrated about this issue I am having.
No frustration here man just trying to help . I understand that it's frustating when you buy new stuff and it doesn't gives you expected performance but at this case gtx 1080 is not to be blamed . Please try what i told you and tell us the result .
I tested borderland out on lowest settings. Steady 150-100 fps. Does that seem off?
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:38:40
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Your CPU is not the fastest available, but is a decent CPU. Try to run the FireStrike benchmark, in the free version of 3DMark, it will bench both the graphics card and physics (on the CPU) we will have a better idea after looking at that to see if the GPU is being held back back by the CPU. Link the results or an image of the different scores
I'm really sorry to ask but can you send me the link for the firestrike free benchmark. I can't find one that works
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 10:58:50
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EVGATech_RayH
Your CPU is not the fastest available, but is a decent CPU. Try to run the FireStrike benchmark, in the free version of 3DMark, it will bench both the graphics card and physics (on the CPU) we will have a better idea after looking at that to see if the GPU is being held back back by the CPU. Link the results or an image of the different scores
  Took a bit but I finally got it together. Thank you in advance for any help you can give to me.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 12:45:04
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I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
It has nothing to do with gtx 1080 he is cpu limited
If I am CPU limited why is my CPU usage 40%
um you can fully cpu limited regardless of your total cpu usage. that is because it is down to how many cores the game is using. you have 4 core/ 8 thread cpu and most games rarely use over 3 or 4 cores so you will be under 50% usage in nearly every game.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
2016/06/12 12:48:18
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Chan0man
Also I am sorry if anyone is frustrated with me. I am still new to computers and just frustrated about this issue I am having.
No frustration here man just trying to help . I understand that it's frustating when you buy new stuff and it doesn't gives you expected performance but at this case gtx 1080 is not to be blamed . Please try what i told you and tell us the result .
I tested borderland out on lowest settings. Steady 150-100 fps. Does that seem off?
lol you tested Borderlands? with a 1080? really? come on now. test a real game that is actually demanding. I am not sure why you went out and bought such an expensive card when you have no idea what you are even doing.
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Re: GTX 1080 SC Issues, please help if you can.
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I am so sorry to hear this. 970 to 1080 should be a big jump.
I've now seen so many people unhappy with these cards I'm refusing delivery from newegg on Tuesday. I want something that works, I'm not beta testing cards.
Every single post I've seen from people with issues have either systems with a slow CPU clock or are playing games at 1080p and expecting a huge difference in performance.
Both cases are true for this one. He's being CPU limited and playing at too small of a resolution to make full use of the card.
This isn't a beta test at all.
This forum is full of people having problems. Performance is bad. Rise of the tomb raider doesn't work. Plastic under the screw. And many complaints about coil whine or buzzing. I've always bought evga cards but I'm refusing delivery.
how's this? i will gladly take that GPU off your hands for what u paid for + shipping cost. i've been waiting patiently for 2 weeks to even get a chance to order one. it's the last part i need for my new desktop build.
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