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2016/08/30 19:40:42 (permalink)
So, now that I have been bitten by the Folding bug.
 
I want to build a better dedicated folding PC
 
Base PC:
X99
i7-5960X CPU
16 to 64 GB RAM
Win 7 or 10 Pro 64 bit
 
The question is what kind of GPU will be most effective ? most points /watt/second
 
Looking @ these GPUs
 
Two - 1080s
 
One - 1080 &  one 1070 - budget friendly - may add a second 1070
 
Nvidia Quadro 6000
 
Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C2075
 
Looking for information on the : Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C2075 specifically
 
Power of calculation per second/ Watts consumed
 
Anyone ever fold with the Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C2075?
 
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 19:54:04 (permalink)
    I would waste my time with the pro cards.  The two GTX 1080 cards should get you around 1.6-2 million PPD.
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 19:58:46 (permalink)
    the Nvidia Tesla C2075 has 448 CUDA Cores and delivers up to 515 Gigaflops of double-precision. double-precision isn't used in folding so it will only slow you down. and only having 448 cuda cores, 1080 has 2560. the Nvidia Quadro 6000 is basically the same story, though this one is based off the fermi architecture.
     
    the latest 10XX series or pascal based cards are your best bet for folding performance. just because the card costs extra doesn't mean it gives you more PPD. now if you biggest goal is PPD/Watt then the titan XP is what you should get as its nearly 1.3million PPD for a TDP of 250W. but if you are on a budget then the best PPD per $$$ spent is the 1070, the 1080 is between the two.
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:00:42 (permalink)
    You will fine more info on the Nvidia Quadro and Tesla cards over on the Folding @ Home Support Forum.
    https://foldingforum.org/ 
    https://foldingforum.org/search.php?keywords=Tesla
    https://foldingforum.org/search.php?keywords=Quadro
    At one time I was reviewing them also for Folding and if I recall they where now well supported.
    I was looking to see if they could maybe take the place of the BigAdv Projects that we Folded on until the end of Jan 2015 if I recall.
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:13:36 (permalink)
    as for a dedicated rig, tower and all, you can build one rather cheap that will house two GPU's. last one i tried cost me $443.35, though i would STRONGLY recommend a larger case. also the SSD is optional, you can use cheap USB stick. you will want to install linux Mint for the OS as its free. you can also get away with only 4GB of ram. the only thing i am not certain on is the CPU... it works perfectly for 2x 1070's but if you try to drive 1080's or higher it may bottleneck. i would stick with a dual core as you only need 1 core per GPU in the system, unless there isnt a faster dual core cpu. Motherboard do not stray from, losts of thought and research went into it. and lastly you MUST get a 80 Gold or higher rated Power supply. you do not want to spend all your money on this system and turn more then 20% of incoming power to heat.
     
    but that PC with two 1070's gets about 1.2million PPD, the equevelent of a single titian XP. and that is why i say PPD per WATT the titans are best but for just the cost of 1 GPU you could build out a whole system with two 1070's
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:31:39 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the responses
     
    Just to be clear - I saw some cheap used Quadro 6000 w/ C2075 co-processors at around 400- 500 for the pair
     
    The only thing I need to buy is the GPUs
     
     

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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:33:43 (permalink)
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    You will fine more info on the Nvidia Quadro and Tesla cards over on the Folding @ Home Support Forum.
    https://foldingforum.org/ 
    https://foldingforum.org/search.php?keywords=Tesla
    https://foldingforum.org/search.php?keywords=Quadro
    At one time I was reviewing them also for Folding and if I recall they where now well supported.
    I was looking to see if they could maybe take the place of the BigAdv Projects that we Folded on until the end of Jan 2015 if I recall.
     


    Thanks for the links bc

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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:35:18 (permalink)
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    as for a dedicated rig, tower and all, you can build one rather cheap that will house two GPU's. last one i tried cost me $443.35, though i would STRONGLY recommend a larger case. also the SSD is optional, you can use cheap USB stick. you will want to install linux Mint for the OS as its free. you can also get away with only 4GB of ram. the only thing i am not certain on is the CPU... it works perfectly for 2x 1070's but if you try to drive 1080's or higher it may bottleneck. i would stick with a dual core as you only need 1 core per GPU in the system, unless there isnt a faster dual core cpu. Motherboard do not stray from, losts of thought and research went into it. and lastly you MUST get a 80 Gold or higher rated Power supply. you do not want to spend all your money on this system and turn more then 20% of incoming power to heat.
     
    but that PC with two 1070's gets about 1.2million PPD, the equevelent of a single titian XP. and that is why i say PPD per WATT the titans are best but for just the cost of 1 GPU you could build out a whole system with two 1070's
     
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    Thanks for the details and suggestions
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:40:46 (permalink)
    ya, i just wanted to point out that many of the items you suggested for your dedicated build, meaning doing nothing but folding nearly 24/7, had many things that were superfluous and overkill for such a task.


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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:44:17 (permalink)
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    ya, i just wanted to point out that many of the items you suggested for your dedicated build, meaning doing nothing but folding nearly 24/7, had many things that were superfluous and overkill for such a task.


    Was going to use the parts laying around / rededicate current MB & CPU for folding. 
     
    I do understand that building new from the ground up - the MB & CPU have limited impact. 
     
    I would stay with PCIe X16 in both GPUs slots though, even if buying new. - Why leave 4 % or 5% on the table
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:51:59 (permalink)
    Currently Folding with:
     
    2- EVGA Titan X SC, underwater
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    1- EVGA 670 FTW, air ---- (Stop laughing, 100K PPD)
     
    1 Intel i7-5960X -- Hey 60K PPD, more if I OC that puppy AIO (60K PPD)
     
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    I'm looking for around 4 M to 6 M if my budget could take it
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:55:48 (permalink)
    well do remember to cut the number of threads that you fold on your CPU to leave 1 physical core free per GPU in the system.


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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 20:57:51 (permalink)
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    well do remember to cut the number of threads that you fold on your CPU to leave 1 physical core free per GPU in the system.


    Even if dedicated to folding ?
     
    Use Task Manger and set Affinity - to control number of cores ?
     

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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 21:01:36 (permalink)
    no under FAH control panel->Configure->Slots->CPU, set the number of threads from -1 to however many you need. for example i have a CPU with 16 threads 8 cores. so if i have 5 gpu's folding i will need to set the cpu to fold on 3 cores or 6 threads. 


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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 21:04:59 (permalink)
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    no under FAH control panel->Configure->Slots->CPU, set the number of threads from -1 to however many you need. for example i have a CPU with 16 threads 8 cores. so if i have 5 gpu's folding i will need to set the cpu to fold on 3 cores or 6 threads. 


    OK, thanks for that nice bit of info - got to change that
     
    The directions said leave it alone unless your an expert -- it is supposed to be smarter than a new user
     
    On the one PC  with 1 GPU that is CPU folding  -- leave this set at 1 ?
     
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 21:07:46 (permalink)
    Cool GTXThe directions said leave it alone unless your an expert -- it is supposed to be smarter than a new user

     
    hahaha, well you are trying to not be a default user so some setting adjustments are required. this just means you are now officially an expert 
     
    as for the GPU's you dont need to touch those. you are only guaranteeing that your CPU folding isn't eating up all the CPU processing power and in turn starving your GPU's
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 21:10:15 (permalink)
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    Cool GTXThe directions said leave it alone unless your an expert -- it is supposed to be smarter than a new user

     
    hahaha, well you are trying to not be a default user so some setting adjustments are required. this just means you are now officially an expert 


    On the one PC  with 1 GPU that is CPU folding  -- leave this set at 1 ?
     
    5960X is folding 8 core CPU with only 1 GPU (980 SC) till the 1080 arrives tomorrow
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 21:13:58 (permalink)
    -1 is default which will set the thread count to max cpu threads. as to what you need to set it to depends on the CPU and its available thread count. so if you have a quad core with 8 threads and 1 GPU set the thread count on the CPU to 6. if you have a 6 core with 12 threads set it to 10. so you need to find out what your cpu is capable of and go down from there.


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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 21:33:53 (permalink)
    Just a recap of your earlier statements - which of these MB, is the lowest powered one, that would not slowdown my Folding ?
     
    MB - available to dedicate to folding:
     
    ASUS P5E3 Deluxe, Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU, 4GB RAM - 2-PCIe 2.0 @ x16
     
    MSI BigBang X58, i7-950, 24GB RAM
     
    Asus  Z79-WS, i7-4790, 32 GB RAM
     
    EVGA X99 Classy, i7-5960X, 16GB RAM
     
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 22:07:05 (permalink)
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    Thanks for all the responses
     
    Just to be clear - I saw some cheap used Quadro 6000 w/ C2075 co-processors at around 400- 500 for the pair
     
    The only thing I need to buy is the GPUs
     
     


    I would get the 2 1080s and NOT run them SLI. I have never run the Quadro cards. I know they excel for certain applications but folding is not one of them. Again if I had my pick - 2 X 1080s. As mentioned by others, way more cuda cores and low power for very high output.


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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/30 22:35:03 (permalink)
    Is there something wrong with your strictly Folding rig only, GPU's are set to SLI?

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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/31 06:05:55 (permalink)
    SLI is a way to trick you PC into thinking that there is only 1 GPU. with F@H you want each GPU to do their own work independently of the other.


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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/31 06:25:33 (permalink)
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    Is there something wrong with your strictly Folding rig only, GPU's are set to SLI?


    No when Folding SLI & Gsync are both Off

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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/31 08:53:46 (permalink)
    My 2 gpu build looks like this,
    Asus Z87 WS Mobo dual PCIe 3.0 @ x16 or quad at x8, Xeon X1230L v3 cpu - 25w TDP!!, corsair AX760 PSU, 8gb of 1.35v Ram, ****ty HDD I had lying around, and a large case, I currently have a 970 & 980ti in there which will slowly be upgraded over the next few months all running on Zorin 9 - Ubuntu based and looks a bit like windows.  That's for 440-450w from the wall, The old build, based on a E5-2665 xeon sucked 20w more are full load
     
    Not the cheapest option but it wastes the least amount of power and will last me for a good 5 years or more

      


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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/31 15:14:16 (permalink)
    Thanks Nathan, for the build guide you posted
     
    Side note - 17 Million could happen tonight - as of 6 PM EST , I'm at 16,223,053
     
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/08/31 17:19:57 (permalink)
    I tried to warn you, folding [or crunching] can be quite addictive. LOL!  Some really good info given, thanks to all.
    You're already kicking butt as it is CoolGTX.
     
    Edit: Just noticed a pair of Titan X with blocks ,or a 1070 FTW for sale in market. In case you're interested.
    http://forums.evga.com/FS-EVGA-GTX-1070-FTW-m2540624.aspx  <<1070
    post edited by notfordman - 2016/08/31 17:28:36

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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/09/02 00:19:25 (permalink)
    Well my new EVGA 1080 FE arrived today. 
     
    Finally got it installed around 1 AM, been folding hard ever since; 92% - 97% GPU load
     
    Was working on a 1977 CJ7 Jeep Off-road project earlier for a friend or I'd have gotten this new GPU installed much sooner.
     
    (Anyone, East of the Mississippi, have a tub they want to get rid of or other body parts -- send me a PM.  Drive train is good and frame is solid)
     
     
    1080, is using about 22 to 24 less watts (whole system 276 W ) than the EVGA 980 SC was
     
    PC: EVGA X99 Classy, 5960X stock, Swifteck H240-X AIO, Intel 750 PCIe SSD, 5 fans (2 fans are on the AIO)
     
    Folding PPD is Up over 300K will have to let it run some more and see what the PPD ends-up like.  (current PPD 831190)
     
    Mostly stock right now, let it break-in the TIM
     
    Power set to 120%, custom fan curve keeping it around 67 C, GPU clock 1847, Mem ck 4513, Voltage 1050
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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/09/02 00:34:46 (permalink)
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    I tried to warn you, folding [or crunching] can be quite addictive. LOL!  Some really good info given, thanks to all.
    You're already kicking butt as it is CoolGTX.
     
    Edit: Just noticed a pair of Titan X with blocks ,or a 1070 FTW for sale in market. In case you're interested.
    http://forums.evga.com/FS-EVGA-GTX-1070-FTW-m2540624.aspx  <<1070


    Scotty I Need more Power
     
    1070 FTW -- is sold
     
    Titans X -- I'll have to watch and see if the price comes down ...... So far, from my early testing 1080 uses less power and Folds faster...
     
     

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    Re: GPU selection dedicated Folding PC anyone use Nvidia Quadro 6000 and Nvidia Tesla C207 2016/09/03 16:19:20 (permalink)
    Hammer has been Dropped ----> I'm hunting for some more Points & better Team position
     
    2 EVGA Titan X SC in 4790K Rig
     
    1 EVGA 1080 FE & 1 EVGA 980 SC in 5960X Rig
     
    Just might have to add a Hybrid to this 1080....... have those EVGA Bucks.......
     
    Hunting for 3M PPD
     
    I'll wave as I go by 
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