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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/03 05:25:09
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think i may have got it now, was trying to add the next unit flag in slots instead of expert. thanks Tex,had to put my glasses on to watch the video. and thank you to everyone for the help.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/03 05:44:51
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I ran into some problem at first, so don't feel bad. Where I was having problems in adding the flags was I wasn't clicking on the GPU client in the lower window to do the edit. This was causing it to try and add the flag to something that wasn't there & would add a uniprocessor with the flag I was trying to add to the GPU. So just make sure when you are at the part to add the flag to click on the 0 GPU before clicking edit to add the flag. Edit: see you got it now, good for you! Fold on.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/03 06:18:28
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Good to see you're up and running, I can help on skype/teamviewer should you run into any other problems :) Just drop me a PM. Fold on!
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/03 06:20:50
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hey wolf i was doing that to took me awhile to get it right
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/03 07:02:02
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The client-type/beta flag is the only thing you need for getting the 8057 wus. For me, about half are the qrb wus but it's nice when you get one off the bat.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/03 07:38:51
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got my fingers crossed. have to finish the client running now,then?
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 11:58:49
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I just got a P8057 WU an hour ago, which auto updated the FAHCore from v2.22 to v2.25 on my GTX580. So it looks like PG is not only forcing FAHCore v2.25 for P762x WUs, but also P8057 WUs now. My GTX580 (at 820MHz) TPF increased from 1:30 to 1:58 (~31% higher) and PPD decreased from ~210K to ~138K. Edit: fixed little translation error. .
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 12:39:24
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v 2.25 forced on me as well. tpf went up 30 sec on my 560ti decrease of almost 50000 ppd per gpu  tried changing the core to 2.22 but it said core outdated
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 12:43:24
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All is well over here, then again i'm just finishing a few over here, I assume ill start picking up 2.25 again after. Ach...
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:08:23
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If you get a 76xx it will automatically download the new core. You have to go back in pause the client and delete the core. It's a pain so I just leave mine alone in my fermi box.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:10:55
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tank1023 If you get a 76xx it will automatically download the new core. You have to go back in pause the client and delete the core. It's a pain so I just leave mine alone in my fermi box. 8057s are forcing the 2.25 core now as well.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:18:56
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tank1023 If you get a 76xx it will automatically download the new core. You have to go back in pause the client and delete the core. It's a pain so I just leave mine alone in my fermi box. Rightly said Tank. I'm really not that interested in micro-managing Cores all the time. I get the 762x WUs so often that I'd be replacing Cores all the time. But, I do not like inflating processing time on WUs that don't need Core 2.25, or that perform poorer under the that Core. This should really be addressed and fixed so that we can all get the very best out of our investments and electrical use. The way this is running right now, it feels like a cobbled together mess of Cores, WUs and GPU technology. PS: I know that if I posted anything like the above on the FAH Forum, the answer would be that PG just fixed the issue by forcing the 2.25 Core on all (or most) WUs. They'd likely say that "we" are the problem for messing with the 2.22 Core in the first place. Probably from a PG perspective, that is all true. But from a "donor perspective", we can still feel that our resources (which PG depends upon to do the work) are not being optimally used. Hey, it's what happens when you enlist a bunch of PC-junky-technoids to do this work. We will notice things and are not mindless lumps of resource material.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:23:01
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Wow forcing 2.25 on fermi doesn't really make since, since they already have core 2.22 optimized for fermi that preforms better with fermi. What are they thinking with this move? Edit: Only thing I see this does is kills Fermi production to make Kepler shine a little more over Fermi.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:28:59
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texinga tank1023 If you get a 76xx it will automatically download the new core. You have to go back in pause the client and delete the core. It's a pain so I just leave mine alone in my fermi box. Rightly said Tank. I'm really not that interested in micro-managing Cores all the time. I get the 762x WUs so often that I'd be replacing Cores all the time. But, I do not like inflating processing time on WUs that don't need Core 2.25, or that perform poorer under the that Core. This should really be addressed and fixed so that we can all get the very best out of our investments and electrical use. The way this is running right now, it feels like a cobbled together mess of Cores, WUs and GPU technology. Kepler should have gotten its own core(GPU4?) Its obvious that kepler and fermi are very very different. Seems like separate cores would have been the way to go instead of the jumbled mess we have now with 2.25. 2.25 is not optimized for either card
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:35:37
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Moves like this force is enough to make someone quit folding. I'm not wasting my electric to run my Fermi's on core 2.25. When my current WU's are done I'm done with GPU folding until they get this mess fixed.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:39:00
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If you are still getting over 100k for a GPU client on the new cores its still well worth folding. Don't forget what these wu's are without the QRB. Keep em running boys we need to take back first place!
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:44:05
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Ohhhh, this is sucking owl eggs. This forced 2.25 Core is now increased the Folding time on my GTX570 as indicated below: Prior to the change we are seeing today (on my GTX570): WU = 8057 TPF = 2:32 Total Time to complete = 4hrs 12mins Now (on the same GTX570): WU = 8057 TPF = 3:32 (a full minute longer) Total time to complete = 5hrs 54 mins I'm not appreciating this change at all...
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:46:57
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So are all y'all folks getting the 8057's have the beta flag still on or not!? I have been gone for a few weeks as it was still in the 80's here in Texas.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:49:45
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dennis.wittekind So are all y'all folks getting the 8057's have the beta flag still on or not!? I have been gone for a few weeks as it was still in the 80's here in Texas. Yep, see this thread for everything you ever wanted to know about snagging 8057s. http://forums.evga.com/tm.aspx?m=1794417
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:52:02
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Its like when we popped up on [H] radar before the 8057 quit coming. Now that we pooped back up on there radar again, they make this change. Sounds like head people at PG favor [H] Just a little stir to the pot. 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:56:46
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I'm just "venting to my Bros" as well, so please, nobody take my comments that anyone should stop Folding these WUs or anything like that. I'm still pressing on as I have been doing with those horrible 762x WUs. I just don't like this latest change that poured a little more gas on my Folding-challenges-fire.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 13:59:27
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TheWolf
Moves like this force is enough to make someone quit folding. I'm not wasting my electric to run my Fermi's on core 2.25. When my current WU's are done I'm done with GPU folding until they get this mess fixed.
I have to agree with you on this. Until they fix this or put it back the way it was I am not wasting any more electricity on 2.25. I bought another fermi while waiting on an RMA on my 590 classified just to keep going on 8057's with some production. I am going to blame H as we were just starting to gain again
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:00:55
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Yes do what feels right for you, don't let my dropping GPU folding influence what you feel is right. Fold on guys!
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:02:18
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:14:30
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Just for grins, I just tried to replace the 2.25 Core with a copy of 2.22 for my GTX570 that is currently working an 8057. V7 won't continue running the 8057 WU until it get's the 2.25 Core replaced. Just hangs the WU with a statement that says "needs updated Core". So, I put back the 2.25 Core and it took off running again. Looks like the "days of manipulating Cores" have come to an end.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:15:55
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:19:57
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texinga Looks like the "days of manipulating Cores" have come to an end. And so has folding at your best. When it becomes where you can no longer tweak things to get better performance per watt I'm out.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:24:10
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:24:51
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Tex - tried the same thing - with the same luck. 1/2 the PPD's is not very cool. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. Hopefully they'll get things figured out so that we can get back to teh 2.22 core on the Fermi cards. Hey - maybe they are running these Beta's on the 2.25 core to see how bad/big the difference is. Maybe it's their test to see whether or not they do need a GPU4. And yes, I'm trying to look at this positively....glass half full and all - which reminds me - I have some scotch that needs drinkin. Stay Calm and Fold On!
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion
2012/12/04 14:28:07
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-ZS-Carpenter TheWolf texinga Looks like the "days of manipulating Cores" have come to an end. And so has folding at your best. When it becomes where you can no longer tweak things to get better performance per watt I'm out. So your going to fall off my radar now? I just ordered parts to hold you off and you take your ball and go home  Sure am, its not about the PPD now, its about the cost. Enjoy the pressure being removed. One day it may return.
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