Are those ppd just on 600 series card? I have two 470's and a 550. I may start firing those back up if I can get better PPD Out of my GPU's

tank1023

Are those ppd just on 600 series card? I have two 470's and a 550. I may start firing those back up if I can get better PPD Out of my GPU's

Just offering what I am understanding at this point. The answer is no. Other than power usage and heat generated, it makes no difference at this time if you chose to fold on the 400's 500's or 600's... That difference, we are being told, comes later...
 
The PPD you are seeing (In general not the announcement) is the frustration being expressed about F@H and Kepler. We have no gains at all in PPD over Fermi even though the GPU's have significant abilities over Fermi. 
 
The numbers would be very similar with the 500's and 400 series GPU's at this time. Obviously a few controling variables will allow for a slight difference from GPU to GPU... But over all the results being reported are from Fermi, not Kepler GPU's..

What's really gonna throw this whole project into a tizzy is when
a BA sized WU gets completed in a few hours on a Kepler or Maxwell.  Calling it a game changer is an understatement.
 

it folds on both kepler and fermi
(please read the thread again)
 

taken from here 
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...27#post7324327

3770k & 2 670's (I have no idea what the frequencies are - not my rig)
 
OCF (operant's post)
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7329550&postcount=12

Xavier Zepherious

it folds on both kepler and fermi
(please read the thread again)


taken from here 
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...27#post7324327

3770k & 2 670's (I have no idea what the frequencies are - not my rig)

OCF (operant's post)
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7329550&postcount=12

 
The pic shows GK107 cards... is that some sort of error in V7?

Just a heads up:
 
Bonus points for GPU clients should be working with any recent version of FAH GPU Tracker V2. I will confirm once I get one of these WUs to test.

Wow that is insane PPD!

Simba123
remains to be seen if the ppd stays that way.
Equal points for equal work.  Are GPUs really that much more efficient than CPUs in this kind of work?

If they are then this will be a huge change and a massive leap forward in folding.

I believe they are. The big news in the last few years was about monster GPU "servers" to do major number crunching for big companies. Since they are very expensive, they must be much more efficient for the companies to change. More efficiency equals more profits. Also, with the introduction of GPU crunching on Help Conquer Cancer within World Community Grid, this difference is very evident. They use the same work units for both CPU and GPU, but the GPUs are easily getting ten times the production, if not more.

For Rjbelans:
 
It would appear that [H]'s DAB rep is already posting in the DAB to take issue with this beta WU's point structure.  I'm not saying that [H] is necessarily wrong in their position, but since we are a GPU heavy team, what are you going to be saying about our position on the matter?  Unless we agree with [H]'s DAB rep, then we need to offer our position so that it is also heard and considered.
 
[H]'s post:
http://hardforum.com//sho...74080&postcount=97
 
and I think the post that their DAB rep is referring to:
http://hardforum.com//sho...71968&postcount=77

on a steady diet of these 8057 wu's xD

i need to pick up a 2nd 660 ti sc 3gb card

nathan_P
"equal points for equal work" was what was said in VJ's blog post.
Someone please explain how ~110k ppd for a 900 atom GPU WU is the same as 40k for a 22,000 atom a4 WU or 45k PPD for a 180,000 atom a3 WU.

 
Further tweaking to make points more equivalent will of course happen.  As you say in your second point (quoted below), 4p folders need to be just as aware of the fact that spending $3000+ on a rig can "bite (them) in the butt."  That's where points are concerned of course.  Like we all contend, points are secondary to research - right??? 

nathan_P
I will say just 2 things.
1: PG have a habit of changing points values, look at what they did to the BA folders last year
2: Its a Beta WU thats been out for less than 4 days - making purchasing decision on that basis is iffy at best.  Don't be surprised if it bites you in the butt

Even if they change the values, unless they completely pull the rug out from GPU folders, the overall statement is a change in culture that at the least equivalates the computing power of GPU's.  Moderate GPU's run roughly 1/10th the price of 4P rigs.  Even if they end up only pulling in 1/6 - 1/3 the points, it's still a win, even with the power draw.
 
I will take my chances. 

i want a 2nd card so I can do a 3 monitor spread, bonus for me if it folds with insane points :)

but I have this really awesome jump to conclusions floor mat that I was using...

Just to be clear, I'm not arguing at all with the assertion by our Bros at [H] that this Beta WU is not fitting the famous "equal points for equal work" statement by Dr. Pande.  It is highly questionable and I'm trying to get my head around what happened with the points design of this GPU WU.  Maybe someone that is closer to PG than I am can comment on my thoughts below:
 

• Is the WU points calculation simply an error that will quickly be corrected?
• Wouldn't they know the points this WU would deliver before releasing it, or did they not test it at all?  If they did test it, wouldn't someone at PG have thought "this may not square well with VJ's statement about equal points"?
• [Edit]  Had to also add that it could be possible that PG knew exactly what is wanted to do with this WU (by design) and intends it to start a significant swing (kick start) to GPU Folding.  It is possible that, no matter how we argue it, no matter what parallel comparisons that we draw, it is what they intended for it to be.  If that is true, then some people will just have to get over it, adjust and decide how they want to take the change.

I'm just curious and would like to better understand why we are seeing what most anyone could say is a remarkable and (cough) hard to believe points return for this GPU WU.    I'm not taking this whole thing very seriously either and certainly would not make any buying decisions from it.  Nor would I allow it to have any impact upon the desire to Fold one way or another for those that are upset about it.  Just take it for what it is, a gift, an anomaly and a question mark.