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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 06:39:19 (permalink)
everyone calm down
 
jimmy
I please remember that not everyone sees things the way you do. remember that. try to be helpful without unintentional making anyone uncomfortable
 
the idea is to help people without chasing members away
 
Tex: had I been up I would have answered you right away, thus avoiding this whole ordeal
I however do need a bit of sleep now and then
 
just remember that some people may not have had their cup of java in the morn and may not comprehend well on either end.
(let alone the morning monday blues and java withdrawl)
 
the last thing we need to do is lose more members
 
anyways steady diet of 8057's now 
 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 07:23:14 (permalink)
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Awe is someone getting mad because they lacking understanding of something so simple?
I find it incredibly funny that you're trying to insult my reading ability when you're the one that can't read that members are deleting the 2.25 core and replacing it with the 2.22 core.
And being rude to other members? Where exactly am I being rude and to whom?

Up there in BOLD is exactly what everyone is doing but for some strange reason you can't comprehend that

So you're so knowledgeable now that unless someone asks a question in exactly the way that you want it, they don't deserve a polite response or help?  Hmmm...if this is any example of the team we have become, then it may be time to consider other things.

No way!  You're not leaving
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 08:26:35 (permalink)
To my fellow team-mates where we have worked together on so many occasions, I should not have said "maybe it's time to do something else".  You folks deserve better than that, and I also appreciate the words of encouragement.  I feel the same way about you too and this is a great team in many ways.  I should have just waited and one of you would have been along to answer.  I know that, and should have waited for it rather than get into a tit-for-tat with another person's response.  I just wanted to pop back-in and let you know how much I appreciate you guys, your help and dedication to our team.  I'm still here. 



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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 08:30:37 (permalink)
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gamejrock

I just put in my old GTX 460 and got an 8057 WU and I'm getting a TPF of 3:18 and Est. PPD of 61K.
Does that sound right? It seems a bit low.

which core you using v2.25 or v2.22?
2.22 will give you better results (but you have to manually downgrade to get that)


 
Is this something that need to be babysat or is it a one and done fix. Want to switch my 2nd rig to v7 from tracker but must be a set it and forget it fix. 
 
Another thing in v7, Can i set a quad to fold on only 2 cores without 3rd party apps? Would like to see how v7 works on that rig but not going to take the ppd hit on the 460s to find out.
 
 

 
 
 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 08:33:18 (permalink)
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gamejrock

I just put in my old GTX 460 and got an 8057 WU and I'm getting a TPF of 3:18 and Est. PPD of 61K.
Does that sound right? It seems a bit low.

which core you using v2.25 or v2.22?
2.22 will give you better results (but you have to manually downgrade to get that)



Is this something that need to be babysat or is it a one and done fix. Want to switch my 2nd rig to v7 from tracker but must be a set it and forget it fix. 

Another thing in v7, Can i set a quad to fold on only 2 cores without 3rd party apps? Would like to see how v7 works on that rig but not going to take the ppd hit on the 460s to find out.



No babysitting needed, but keep a backup of 2.22 just in case
As far as setting it to use 2 out of 4 I can't help with that
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 08:38:47 (permalink)
yes you can config the cpu for number of threads
you have to go into configure->slots
highlight SMP ->select edit
then change the value for number of threads from -1 (default -which lets it do what the cpu is capable of) to the number of threads to use
 
I suggest you finish the SMP WU before configuring it
 
 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 08:43:27 (permalink)
I don't feel so lost now. I figured I was the only one having difficulty setting up v7.
When I first opened it up, I couldn't even find the expert tab because the v7 window
was too small.

You can set it to limit the cores(threads). If you're on a quad core 8 thread, you
probably want to set it to 6. That's as far as my help can go cause I'm on my phone.
Just keep looking, its in there somewhere, lol.

 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 08:53:12 (permalink)
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I don't feel so lost now. I figured I was the only one having difficulty setting up v7.
When I first opened it up, I couldn't even find the expert tab because the v7 window
was too small.

You can set it to limit the cores(threads). If you're on a quad core 8 thread, you
probably want to set it to 6. That's as far as my help can go cause I'm on my phone.
Just keep looking, its in there somewhere, lol.

It's probably just easier to use a program like Process Lasso
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 08:55:59 (permalink)
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gamejrock

I just put in my old GTX 460 and got an 8057 WU and I'm getting a TPF of 3:18 and Est. PPD of 61K.
Does that sound right? It seems a bit low.

which core you using v2.25 or v2.22?
2.22 will give you better results (but you have to manually downgrade to get that)



Is this something that need to be babysat or is it a one and done fix. Want to switch my 2nd rig to v7 from tracker but must be a set it and forget it fix. 

Another thing in v7, Can i set a quad to fold on only 2 cores without 3rd party apps? Would like to see how v7 works on that rig but not going to take the ppd hit on the 460s to find out.



I need to babysit since every time a 76xx WU is sent the new core is downloaded.  This is with Tracker, not sure about V7.  Since that WU needs core 2.25 it's likely a universal problem.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 09:06:21 (permalink)
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gamejrock

I just put in my old GTX 460 and got an 8057 WU and I'm getting a TPF of 3:18 and Est. PPD of 61K.
Does that sound right? It seems a bit low.

which core you using v2.25 or v2.22?
2.22 will give you better results (but you have to manually downgrade to get that)



Is this something that need to be babysat or is it a one and done fix. Want to switch my 2nd rig to v7 from tracker but must be a set it and forget it fix. 

Another thing in v7, Can i set a quad to fold on only 2 cores without 3rd party apps? Would like to see how v7 works on that rig but not going to take the ppd hit on the 460s to find out.



I need to babysit since every time a 76xx WU is sent the new core is downloaded.  This is with Tracker, not sure about V7.  Since that WU needs core 2.25 it's likely a universal problem.
Which WU are you talking about? 8057 or 76xx?
Core 2.25 is only needed if you have a Kepler card so it can fold
I haven't gotten any 76xx WUs so I don't know if 2.25 will redownload or not on v7, I've most been getting 8057 with 8018 sprinkled lightly
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 09:16:39 (permalink)
Yeah, 76xx will force 2.25 in v7. It happened to me overnight. That Wu has a real high tpf, so you have to wait quite awhile before you can go back to 2.22. I had 200k ppd yesterday, I'll be lucky to get 50k today.

 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 09:20:21 (permalink)
core15 v2.25 is required for p762x and it doesn't matter if you are running v7, v6, or Tracker.
http://foldingforum.org/v...c.php?f=24&t=22794
post edited by werty316 - 2012/11/12 09:22:22

 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 09:30:52 (permalink)
leftygof

1st one 



THIS gives me hope!  

 
  


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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 09:38:19 (permalink)
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You can't talk to our pledges that way!
Only we can talk to our pledges that way!

 
LOLOLOL!  Nice!

 
  


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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 09:40:33 (permalink)
Haven't seen an 8057 yet.  Wondering if V7 really makes a difference on the assignment.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 09:45:00 (permalink)
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leftygof

1st one 



THIS gives me hope!  

 
I have seen 3 total man.....
the 8018's are close to 20k
other than QRB and 8018 everything else seems to drag A$$
I switched back to "advanced" because I am signed up, but not technically a member of the "Beta-Team"
Guilty Conscience I guess


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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 10:14:14 (permalink)
widsss

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v7 seems to cause less lag issues with my GTX 670. What settings do I need to change in v7? I'm a v7 n00b. 


Change it to Expert. Go to Configure--Slots--GPU--Edit--Extra slot options--Add-- Name:Client-type-- Value:beta

Click Ok twice and Save


Thanks! I actually figured it out while I was waiting for a response but it's nice to know I did the right thing. Still waiting for some QRB goodness. 

  
   
 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 11:19:03 (permalink)
i am so smart only took me 2 days to get 2.22 to work now my 570 on a 8018 is at 25,000ppd and my 2 460's are 15,000ppd i am so smart
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 13:16:44 (permalink)
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gamejrock

I just put in my old GTX 460 and got an 8057 WU and I'm getting a TPF of 3:18 and Est. PPD of 61K.
Does that sound right? It seems a bit low.

which core you using v2.25 or v2.22?
2.22 will give you better results (but you have to manually downgrade to get that)



Is this something that need to be babysat or is it a one and done fix. Want to switch my 2nd rig to v7 from tracker but must be a set it and forget it fix. 

Another thing in v7, Can i set a quad to fold on only 2 cores without 3rd party apps? Would like to see how v7 works on that rig but not going to take the ppd hit on the 460s to find out.



I need to babysit since every time a 76xx WU is sent the new core is downloaded.  This is with Tracker, not sure about V7.  Since that WU needs core 2.25 it's likely a universal problem.

 
That's what i figured. Have not seen any 762x WUs on that rig in a couple weeks but i know my luck. Will just wait till the testing is over to switch to v7 on that rig.
 
@ Xavier Zepherious, thanks for the info on limiting threads. Its just a q9550 but i have to have a way to limit what it does. I think the mobo is on its way out, had trouble folding on the cpu for a while if let go full bore. Spent way to much time trouble shooting it and letting it run with just 2 cores seems to be fine(so far, crosses fingers )

 
 
 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 14:25:05 (permalink)
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I need to babysit since every time a 76xx WU is sent the new core is downloaded.  This is with Tracker, not sure about V7.  Since that WU needs core 2.25 it's likely a universal problem.

 
 
Apparently you can have two cores in V7. There's two core folders and when I got a 76xx, it only forced 2.25 into Core_15 folder. It left 2.22 alone in the Beta folder.
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 14:26:27 (permalink)
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Apparently you can have two cores in V7. There's two core folders and when I got a 76xx, it only forced 2.25 into Core_15 folder. It left 2.22 alone in the Beta folder.


This is good info, I'll keep an eye on it when I do the conversion to V7 tonight.  Thanks
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 15:11:34 (permalink)
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widsss
Apparently you can have two cores in V7. There's two core folders and when I got a 76xx, it only forced 2.25 into Core_15 folder. It left 2.22 alone in the Beta folder.


This is good info, I'll keep an eye on it when I do the conversion to V7 tonight.  Thanks

 
That's odd.  Mine changed both to 2.25 straight away. Might do some testing on this later today.
 
 


 
 
  
                               
 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 15:19:54 (permalink)
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That's odd.  Mine changed both to 2.25 straight away. Might do some testing on this later today.



 
Maybe the WU I received wasn't a beta?  Not sure, but if you think about it, why would a single WU change two folders?

 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 16:09:27 (permalink)
I just know I got 3 of the 8057 WUs over the weekend and one today.   Otherwise it was 8018 and 76xx WUs.   I liked the 8054 WUs, but haven't seen those for maybe 4 days now.   They were the "nice" ones..  2 hours long.. and still 20k ppd.  
 
That's just on the GTX 680.
 
That QRB seems ok, but if anything it's "way too high" of a points estimate.   That seems like the base * 8 or 2458 * 8 giving 19,668 for my GTX 680 (at stock).   I'm not sure I like the QRB at all quite frankly.    If anything the base points should be lower if they do this QRB estimate or closer to the base points of CPUs.
 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 16:56:36 (permalink)
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widsss
Apparently you can have two cores in V7. There's two core folders and when I got a 76xx, it only forced 2.25 into Core_15 folder. It left 2.22 alone in the Beta folder.


This is good info, I'll keep an eye on it when I do the conversion to V7 tonight.  Thanks


That's odd.  Mine changed both to 2.25 straight away. Might do some testing on this later today.



That would be because a first run + 1st WU of each it defaults to the latest version with V7 it will down load v2.25 for both folders.
Once you change the beta folder to v2.22 it should remain that way until they force v2.25 for beta. Witch may happen at some point.

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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 17:08:14 (permalink)
2.22 is working here

  570 sc o/c to 899MHz 169799.08ppd    gtx 460 o/c to 823MHz 61763.86ppd
the 460 does not get the best points till the p/s i bought from BigH gets here then the 570 will be alone and the 460 gets moved to the other rig for max ppd
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 17:24:58 (permalink)
As for the other Core_15 folder it can be downgraded any time to 2.22 so long as its not working a 76xx WU.
76XX WU will auto force a new download back to 2.25.
Once downgraded to 2.22 on a 8xxx WU so long as you continue to get those it will remain 2.22.

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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 17:31:46 (permalink)
I only checked two WUs after the Core_15 folder was forced to 2.25. Both 8018 and 8057 used the Beta folder 2.22. So far, only 76xx used 2.25.

 
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 17:41:10 (permalink)
To those of you that just joined the beta team and are posting results,  thank you for joining! 

  
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Re:GPU points/QRB discussion 2012/11/12 17:53:30 (permalink)
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To those of you that just joined the beta team and are posting results,  thank you for joining! 

+1
with everything else going on I forgot to give my thanks.
Thanks guys!

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