Hot!Future Motherboards use w/ W7

Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
Author
teagueamx
SSC Member
  • Total Posts : 672
  • Reward points : 0
  • Joined: 2004/07/12 19:14:05
  • Status: offline
  • Ribbons : 1
2016/03/05 12:19:12 (permalink)
Ok, I don't want to start a war, but I have no plans to install/use W10. I'm aware of the long term support issues related to this.
 
With M$'s proclamation that new PC's after a certain point will no longer support OS's other than W10, I have a question if OEM motherboard suppliers like EVGA, ASUS, Gigabyte, etc. will continue to support builder's use of OS's other than W10?

mb:  ASUS Z97-WS (ATX)
cpu: Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell @ 4.2GHz
ram:  CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
gpu : XFX Radeon R7870 Black Edition
cpu cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L
sdd:  Plextor M6e PX-AG256M6e PCI-E 2.0 x2 256GB SSD - boot drive
hdd:  3 x WD Caviar SATA III 1TB
psu:  Corsair 750tx
case: Coolermaster HAF XB EVO
os:  Win 7 Pro 64-bit
#1

45 Replies Related Threads

    Scarlet-Tech
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 12339
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 31
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 13:15:28 (permalink)
    If the cpu won't work with any other version of windows 10, the motherboard manufacturer may not be able to do anything.

    Just like the titan lineup from Nvidia, no company is allowed to alter it outside of its specs. The same concept will apply to motherboards.. they will only be allowed to offer what the cpu can support, and if it can only support windows 10, they may be bound by that...

    I doubt that will take off, as many builders will not follow suit when forced to do so.

    But, just like Apple building in security to their hardware to protect itself, windows may do the same thing to sabotage older versions of its OS, which will probably be the death of their attempts.

    If you would like to use an affiliate code to register a product, feel free use this one: >Click Here<  This is not my affiliate code! This is a random users code. This code will change often, and you will never be told who it belongs to! If you would like the possibility of your code being listed above, it must be in your signature block. I will not take requests to use a specific code.
    #2
    whiskers54
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1592
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/04/25 12:45:22
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 2
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 13:39:00 (permalink)
    Scarlet-Tech
    If the cpu won't work with any other version of windows 10, the motherboard manufacturer may not be able to do anything.



     
    Did Intel sign off on this?
    #3
    Scarlet-Tech
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 12339
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 31
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 14:27:07 (permalink)
    whiskers54
    Did Intel sign off on this?


    I really hope not. I don't want to learn linux or any other operating system, but I wouldn't support Microsoft if they attempt this.

    If you would like to use an affiliate code to register a product, feel free use this one: >Click Here<  This is not my affiliate code! This is a random users code. This code will change often, and you will never be told who it belongs to! If you would like the possibility of your code being listed above, it must be in your signature block. I will not take requests to use a specific code.
    #4
    Grey_Beard
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1624
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/12/23 11:50:37
    • Location: The Land of Milk and Honey
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 3
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 14:44:27 (permalink)
    I actually think Intel has already stated that begining with the next chip release that it would require Windows 10, as would all subsequent chip designs. Microsoft would never make the claim if they did not have the Intel on board. If Dell required it, but Intel did not, then you can just reinstall Windows 7 after the purchase. Intel has to be a key ally to assure this happens. They have disappointed me with what they are trying to do. Monopolies are not good for consumers.


    #5
    Scarlet-Tech
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 12339
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 31
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:00:12 (permalink)
    Trimmed the extra's for you grey :-)

    If you would like to use an affiliate code to register a product, feel free use this one: >Click Here<  This is not my affiliate code! This is a random users code. This code will change often, and you will never be told who it belongs to! If you would like the possibility of your code being listed above, it must be in your signature block. I will not take requests to use a specific code.
    #6
    whiskers54
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1592
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/04/25 12:45:22
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 2
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:17:43 (permalink)
    Scarlet-Tech
    whiskers54
    Did Intel sign off on this?


    I really hope not. I don't want to learn linux or any other operating system, but I wouldn't support Microsoft if they attempt this.



     
    Where's AMD on this?
    #7
    whiskers54
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1592
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2010/04/25 12:45:22
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 2
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:18:24 (permalink)
    Grey_Beard
    I actually think Intel has already stated that begining with the next chip release that it would require Windows 10, as would all subsequent chip designs. Microsoft would never make the claim if they did not have the Intel on board. If Dell required it, but Intel did not, then you can just reinstall Windows 7 after the purchase. Intel has to be a key ally to assure this happens. They have disappointed me with what they are trying to do. Monopolies are not good for consumers.



     
    Same question to you. Where's AMD on this?
    #8
    Grey_Beard
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1624
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/12/23 11:50:37
    • Location: The Land of Milk and Honey
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 3
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:21:01 (permalink)
    Scarlet-Tech
    Trimmed the extra's for you grey :-)


    Thanks Scarlet


    #9
    Scarlet-Tech
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 12339
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 31
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:21:11 (permalink)
    I have no idea. I don't follow AMD motherboard and CPU's at all.

    If you would like to use an affiliate code to register a product, feel free use this one: >Click Here<  This is not my affiliate code! This is a random users code. This code will change often, and you will never be told who it belongs to! If you would like the possibility of your code being listed above, it must be in your signature block. I will not take requests to use a specific code.
    #10
    Grey_Beard
    FTW Member
    • Total Posts : 1624
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/12/23 11:50:37
    • Location: The Land of Milk and Honey
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 3
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:22:25 (permalink)
    whiskers54
    Grey_Beard
    I actually think Intel has already stated that begining with the next chip release that it would require Windows 10, as would all subsequent chip designs. Microsoft would never make the claim if they did not have the Intel on board. If Dell required it, but Intel did not, then you can just reinstall Windows 7 after the purchase. Intel has to be a key ally to assure this happens. They have disappointed me with what they are trying to do. Monopolies are not good for consumers.



     
    Same question to you. Where's AMD on this?


    I have yet to read anything about where AMD is on this. Since they have not been very competitive in the realm, they may have a chance to gain if they do not get on board.


    #11
    Scarlet-Tech
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 12339
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 31
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:38:24 (permalink)
    I could see Microsoft microcoding older software so that it will not support newer AMD hardware, and forcing the hand of AMD.

    If you would like to use an affiliate code to register a product, feel free use this one: >Click Here<  This is not my affiliate code! This is a random users code. This code will change often, and you will never be told who it belongs to! If you would like the possibility of your code being listed above, it must be in your signature block. I will not take requests to use a specific code.
    #12
    teagueamx
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 672
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2004/07/12 19:14:05
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:41:03 (permalink)
    It would be tough for M$ to close ranks against other OS's if AMD is not on board.
     
    I'm also curious about Linux support.

    mb:  ASUS Z97-WS (ATX)
    cpu: Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell @ 4.2GHz
    ram:  CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
    gpu : XFX Radeon R7870 Black Edition
    cpu cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L
    sdd:  Plextor M6e PX-AG256M6e PCI-E 2.0 x2 256GB SSD - boot drive
    hdd:  3 x WD Caviar SATA III 1TB
    psu:  Corsair 750tx
    case: Coolermaster HAF XB EVO
    os:  Win 7 Pro 64-bit
    #13
    teagueamx
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 672
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2004/07/12 19:14:05
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 15:43:53 (permalink)
    I could see thi taking the anti-trust law road.
     
    As noted above, I would assume Linux support would be in doubt as well.
     
    It's almost a "One OS to Rule All" scenario.

    mb:  ASUS Z97-WS (ATX)
    cpu: Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell @ 4.2GHz
    ram:  CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
    gpu : XFX Radeon R7870 Black Edition
    cpu cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L
    sdd:  Plextor M6e PX-AG256M6e PCI-E 2.0 x2 256GB SSD - boot drive
    hdd:  3 x WD Caviar SATA III 1TB
    psu:  Corsair 750tx
    case: Coolermaster HAF XB EVO
    os:  Win 7 Pro 64-bit
    #14
    Belial_69699
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 212
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/28 16:36:40
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 21:34:00 (permalink)
    Since we are on the subject of Windows 7 and new motherboards I will ask this here instead of making a new thread. My current build is an ASUS Z77 Sabertooth with an Intel i5 3570K (Ivy Bridge) using Windows 7. I am intending on upgrading to an ASUS Z170 Sabertooth S with an Intel i5 6600K (Skylake). I intend on purchasing another copy of Windows 7, I honestly refuse to use Windows 10, I do not want that spying Removed for language OS on my rig, its one thing to monitor the operating system to check for the system's overall health and stability but to go through my personal files, emails, keystrokes ect is a total invasion of my privacy as well as every other computer user in the world.
     
    To the point, if I decide to upgrade to the Skylake parts I mentioned above, installing Windows 7 with my DVD burner drive, can I anticipate things will go smoothly for installation or should I expect to run into some difficulties? I am aware that M$ intends only to provide support for Windows 7 until 2020 but that is still 4 years away so I'm cool with that. Any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated and I will be checking back with this thread often. Thank you!
    post edited by Scarlet-Tech - 2016/03/05 21:37:47

    "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."
    #15
    Scarlet-Tech
    EVGA Forum Moderator
    • Total Posts : 12339
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2013/11/13 02:48:57
    • Location: East Coast
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 31
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 21:39:11 (permalink)
    I removed the language that as against the TOS.

    as far as using Windows 7, it will constantly download an update that will try to force you to windows and 10. You will need to the the kb# and constantly remove it, or turn updates off completely in W7. Other than that, it shouldn't be an issue.

    If you would like to use an affiliate code to register a product, feel free use this one: >Click Here<  This is not my affiliate code! This is a random users code. This code will change often, and you will never be told who it belongs to! If you would like the possibility of your code being listed above, it must be in your signature block. I will not take requests to use a specific code.
    #16
    teagueamx
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 672
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2004/07/12 19:14:05
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 22:12:04 (permalink)
    I turned auto update off ages ago. never been an issue.
     
    Scarlet-Tech
    I removed the language that as against the TOS.

    as far as using Windows 7, it will constantly download an update that will try to force you to windows and 10. You will need to the the kb# and constantly remove it, or turn updates off completely in W7. Other than that, it shouldn't be an issue.




    mb:  ASUS Z97-WS (ATX)
    cpu: Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell @ 4.2GHz
    ram:  CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
    gpu : XFX Radeon R7870 Black Edition
    cpu cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L
    sdd:  Plextor M6e PX-AG256M6e PCI-E 2.0 x2 256GB SSD - boot drive
    hdd:  3 x WD Caviar SATA III 1TB
    psu:  Corsair 750tx
    case: Coolermaster HAF XB EVO
    os:  Win 7 Pro 64-bit
    #17
    Belial_69699
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 212
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/28 16:36:40
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 22:43:08 (permalink)
    So installation using an actual DVD Burner drive should go smoothly? I've read on other forums that people are saying that you can install an OS via a usb because the usb drivers can't be found or something along those lines. I know the ASUS Z170 Sabertooth S has usb 2.0 and 3.0 ports on the back so I should be good either way with my keyboard and mouse ect. Just reassuring to know that Windows 7 installation should be smooth. Here's hoping..

    "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."
    #18
    teagueamx
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 672
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2004/07/12 19:14:05
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/05 23:05:14 (permalink)
    I use a DVD now - never had an issue. It should go smoothly.
     
    But as mentioned, I wouldn't use Window Update auto update feature. My practice has been after doing a fresh install, load my virus protection, and then turn on Windows Update. When you see the screen with the update list, carefully look through the files they want to install. I don't know what it's called but there will be a sneaky file that will upgrade your OS to W10. De-select that one. Make a note of the update number if you do update more than once which is highly likely. Once you completed a round of updates, turn-off Windows Update.
     
    So far as I know using an OEM copy of the OS is not going to change for W7. Even though you can buy legit copies of W7 from retailers, M$ has taken it down from their store. I prefer to have an official install DVD so I don't buy download copies of the OS.
     
    They may decide to provide future version of Windows via different media such as DL only and/or you may need DL to a flash drive or burn an ISO file to a DVD burner and install it from there.I've heard that some people left their computer on all night and wake up the next morning to find M$ upgraded their OS to W10 while they slept. There was a point I was really excited about W10, and even have several beta versions of W10 on my HDD, but that's changed and I made up my mind to avoid W10 at all costs. I don't really follow it's development anymore so my reference point stops at W7.
     
    FWIW
     
    Belial_69699
    Since we are on the subject of Windows 7 and new motherboards I will ask this here instead of making a new thread. My current build is an ASUS Z77 Sabertooth with an Intel i5 3570K (Ivy Bridge) using Windows 7. I am intending on upgrading to an ASUS Z170 Sabertooth S with an Intel i5 6600K (Skylake). I intend on purchasing another copy of Windows 7, I honestly refuse to use Windows 10, I do not want that spying Removed for language OS on my rig, its one thing to monitor the operating system to check for the system's overall health and stability but to go through my personal files, emails, keystrokes ect is a total invasion of my privacy as well as every other computer user in the world.
     
    To the point, if I decide to upgrade to the Skylake parts I mentioned above, installing Windows 7 with my DVD burner drive, can I anticipate things will go smoothly for installation or should I expect to run into some difficulties? I am aware that M$ intends only to provide support for Windows 7 until 2020 but that is still 4 years away so I'm cool with that. Any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated and I will be checking back with this thread often. Thank you!



    post edited by teagueamx - 2016/03/05 23:14:08

    mb:  ASUS Z97-WS (ATX)
    cpu: Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell @ 4.2GHz
    ram:  CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
    gpu : XFX Radeon R7870 Black Edition
    cpu cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L
    sdd:  Plextor M6e PX-AG256M6e PCI-E 2.0 x2 256GB SSD - boot drive
    hdd:  3 x WD Caviar SATA III 1TB
    psu:  Corsair 750tx
    case: Coolermaster HAF XB EVO
    os:  Win 7 Pro 64-bit
    #19
    Belial_69699
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 212
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/28 16:36:40
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/06 00:22:27 (permalink)
    I totally agree with you. At first I was excited about Windows 10, then I found out about all the spyware and stuff that I don't approve of that not only comes with it but can't be turned off even after you turned off all the optional stuff. As for Windows update, yeah my current copy of Windows 7 I have automatic updates turned off and I manually check the updates myself then decide if I want to install them or not. I've been checking eBay for legit copies of OEM Windows 7 and I won't order one unless its from a reliable seller and I know its genuine. I was just really worried that if I upgraded to Skylake hardware that Windows 7 wouldn't install correctly or there will be conflicts between the software and hardware. EVGA forum members have been really great about helping me with making my own decisions and gathering quality input from other members so that's why I brought it here. I really appreciate the input so far and I'll keep checking back until I make the jump and order my new parts. :)

    "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."
    #20
    James_L
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4334
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/29 12:27:56
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 45
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/06 05:39:48 (permalink)
    teagueamx
    I use a DVD now - never had an issue. It should go smoothly.
     
    But as mentioned, I wouldn't use Window Update auto update feature. My practice has been after doing a fresh install, load my virus protection, and then turn on Windows Update. When you see the screen with the update list, carefully look through the files they want to install. I don't know what it's called but there will be a sneaky file that will upgrade your OS to W10. De-select that one. Make a note of the update number if you do update more than once which is highly likely. Once you completed a round of updates, turn-off Windows Update.
     
    So far as I know using an OEM copy of the OS is not going to change for W7. Even though you can buy legit copies of W7 from retailers, M$ has taken it down from their store. I prefer to have an official install DVD so I don't buy download copies of the OS.
     
    They may decide to provide future version of Windows via different media such as DL only and/or you may need DL to a flash drive or burn an ISO file to a DVD burner and install it from there.I've heard that some people left their computer on all night and wake up the next morning to find M$ upgraded their OS to W10 while they slept. There was a point I was really excited about W10, and even have several beta versions of W10 on my HDD, but that's changed and I made up my mind to avoid W10 at all costs. I don't really follow it's development anymore so my reference point stops at W7.
     
    FWIW
     
    Belial_69699
    Since we are on the subject of Windows 7 and new motherboards I will ask this here instead of making a new thread. My current build is an ASUS Z77 Sabertooth with an Intel i5 3570K (Ivy Bridge) using Windows 7. I am intending on upgrading to an ASUS Z170 Sabertooth S with an Intel i5 6600K (Skylake). I intend on purchasing another copy of Windows 7, I honestly refuse to use Windows 10, I do not want that spying Removed for language OS on my rig, its one thing to monitor the operating system to check for the system's overall health and stability but to go through my personal files, emails, keystrokes ect is a total invasion of my privacy as well as every other computer user in the world.

    To the point, if I decide to upgrade to the Skylake parts I mentioned above, installing Windows 7 with my DVD burner drive, can I anticipate things will go smoothly for installation or should I expect to run into some difficulties? I am aware that M$ intends only to provide support for Windows 7 until 2020 but that is still 4 years away so I'm cool with that. Any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated and I will be checking back with this thread often. Thank you!





    The hardware itself won't be an issue moving forward, just the possibility of a CPU lockdown. In itself Windows 7 *should* support the newer hardware up until the EOL of the OS (According to Microsoft). As for the updates *forcing* you to Windows 10, there is quite a bit more than that to be worried about. Please browse this thread starting with the comments I have made and read further.

     
      

    #21
    teagueamx
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 672
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2004/07/12 19:14:05
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/06 10:11:10 (permalink)
    Yes, thanks. Good link.
     
    I assume that Linux users will have this issue too. That's almost like a monopoly.
     
    Late yesterday, I started a thread on the Intel support site with this question. I would have started there first but the idea of the cpu being the issue hadn't occurred to me.
     
    Here's the link for that thread:
    https://communities.intel.om/message/378152#378152
     
    So far only an non-Intel person has responded with the regular stuff about termination of support, get on board, yada, yada. But, I've seen times when regular Intel moderators responded to requests for info. I don't have my hopes up at this point. I'm assuming they may not want to talk about it.
     
    James_L
    The hardware itself won't be an issue moving forward, just the possibility of a CPU lockdown. In itself Windows 7 *should* support the newer hardware up until the EOL of the OS (According to Microsoft). As for the updates *forcing* you to Windows 10, there is quite a bit more than that to be worried about. Please browse this thread starting with the comments I have made and read further.



    post edited by teagueamx - 2016/03/06 10:33:13

    mb:  ASUS Z97-WS (ATX)
    cpu: Intel Core i7-4770K Haswell @ 4.2GHz
    ram:  CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1600
    gpu : XFX Radeon R7870 Black Edition
    cpu cooler: Cooler Master Nepton 280L
    sdd:  Plextor M6e PX-AG256M6e PCI-E 2.0 x2 256GB SSD - boot drive
    hdd:  3 x WD Caviar SATA III 1TB
    psu:  Corsair 750tx
    case: Coolermaster HAF XB EVO
    os:  Win 7 Pro 64-bit
    #22
    James_L
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4334
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/29 12:27:56
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 45
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/06 13:00:37 (permalink)
    teagueamx
    Yes, thanks. Good link.
     
    I assume that Linux users will have this issue too. That's almost like a monopoly.
     
    Late yesterday, I started a thread on the Intel support site with this question. I would have started there first but the idea of the cpu being the issue hadn't occurred to me.
     
    Here's the link for that thread:
    https://communities.intel.om/message/378152#378152
     
    So far only an non-Intel person has responded with the regular stuff about termination of support, get on board, yada, yada. But, I've seen times when regular Intel moderators responded to requests for info. I don't have my hopes up at this point. I'm assuming they may not want to talk about it.


    The moderators for the Intel Corporation forum may not have any authorization to speak on behalf of the company itself. Just like  the moderators for this forum. The company, as a whole, will issue a statement when/if that becomes necessary. I doubt, however, that Intel would lock themselves in with Microsoft long term as it would greatly impact their Enterprise processor business as well considering that the majority of websites utilize Unix/Linux as a base platform.

     
      

    #23
    Belial_69699
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 212
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/28 16:36:40
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/06 22:05:49 (permalink)
    James_L
    teagueamx
    I use a DVD now - never had an issue. It should go smoothly.
     
    But as mentioned, I wouldn't use Window Update auto update feature. My practice has been after doing a fresh install, load my virus protection, and then turn on Windows Update. When you see the screen with the update list, carefully look through the files they want to install. I don't know what it's called but there will be a sneaky file that will upgrade your OS to W10. De-select that one. Make a note of the update number if you do update more than once which is highly likely. Once you completed a round of updates, turn-off Windows Update.
     
    So far as I know using an OEM copy of the OS is not going to change for W7. Even though you can buy legit copies of W7 from retailers, M$ has taken it down from their store. I prefer to have an official install DVD so I don't buy download copies of the OS.
     
    They may decide to provide future version of Windows via different media such as DL only and/or you may need DL to a flash drive or burn an ISO file to a DVD burner and install it from there.I've heard that some people left their computer on all night and wake up the next morning to find M$ upgraded their OS to W10 while they slept. There was a point I was really excited about W10, and even have several beta versions of W10 on my HDD, but that's changed and I made up my mind to avoid W10 at all costs. I don't really follow it's development anymore so my reference point stops at W7.
     
    FWIW
     
    Belial_69699
    Since we are on the subject of Windows 7 and new motherboards I will ask this here instead of making a new thread. My current build is an ASUS Z77 Sabertooth with an Intel i5 3570K (Ivy Bridge) using Windows 7. I am intending on upgrading to an ASUS Z170 Sabertooth S with an Intel i5 6600K (Skylake). I intend on purchasing another copy of Windows 7, I honestly refuse to use Windows 10, I do not want that spying Removed for language OS on my rig, its one thing to monitor the operating system to check for the system's overall health and stability but to go through my personal files, emails, keystrokes ect is a total invasion of my privacy as well as every other computer user in the world.

    To the point, if I decide to upgrade to the Skylake parts I mentioned above, installing Windows 7 with my DVD burner drive, can I anticipate things will go smoothly for installation or should I expect to run into some difficulties? I am aware that M$ intends only to provide support for Windows 7 until 2020 but that is still 4 years away so I'm cool with that. Any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated and I will be checking back with this thread often. Thank you!





    The hardware itself won't be an issue moving forward, just the possibility of a CPU lockdown. In itself Windows 7 *should* support the newer hardware up until the EOL of the OS (According to Microsoft). As for the updates *forcing* you to Windows 10, there is quite a bit more than that to be worried about. Please browse this thread starting with the comments I have made and read further.




    I'll check out your link and post back after I've caught up on the reading, thanks for the info!

    "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."
    #24
    Belial_69699
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 212
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/28 16:36:40
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/10 16:01:08 (permalink)
    After reading over this thread, several links posted here and my own bit of research, I still feel I am going to purchase another copy of Windows 7 to use with my new Z170 build. To me, Windows 10 is still too buggy, too privacy intrusive and quite frankly disturbs me. Hopefully Windows 7 installs and performs well on the new setup and lasts until Windows 10 is either "fixed" or M$ comes out with a better Windows version. Thank you all who provided feedback and info! :)

    "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."
    #25
    James_L
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4334
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/29 12:27:56
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 45
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/11 08:33:19 (permalink)
    Belial_69699
    After reading over this thread, several links posted here and my own bit of research, I still feel I am going to purchase another copy of Windows 7 to use with my new Z170 build. To me, Windows 10 is still too buggy, too privacy intrusive and quite frankly disturbs me. Hopefully Windows 7 installs and performs well on the new setup and lasts until Windows 10 is either "fixed" or M$ comes out with a better Windows version. Thank you all who provided feedback and info! :)


    You're welcome. I just had a friend build a Z170 system using Windows 7 as a platform. It handles it very well and no issues at all with drivers/updates. I doubt that Microsoft will revert it's course with Windows 10 (and further iterations of the OS) and their privacy invasiveness but time will tell if they force the issue with the OEM vendors.

     
      

    #26
    Belial_69699
    Superclocked Member
    • Total Posts : 212
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/11/28 16:36:40
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 0
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/11 15:10:15 (permalink)
    @James_L, that's encouraging to hear! I'm glad his new build and 7 is working out well! I normally upgrade my rigs every 2 years or so, so I can still get some money for the older parts by selling them before they become paper weights. So even if the next Windows version doesn't come out for a few years (or least until 2020 when 7 is completely done) I will have another option or hopefully 10 is fixed. XD

    "It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."
    #27
    James_L
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 4334
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/07/29 12:27:56
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 45
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/11 15:49:54 (permalink)
    Belial_69699
    @James_L, that's encouraging to hear! I'm glad his new build and 7 is working out well! I normally upgrade my rigs every 2 years or so, so I can still get some money for the older parts by selling them before they become paper weights. So even if the next Windows version doesn't come out for a few years (or least until 2020 when 7 is completely done) I will have another option or hopefully 10 is fixed. XD


    Microsoft has stated (currently) that Windows 10 will be the last iteration of the OS. Updates will be performed (as like the Redstone update) but I doubt Windows 11 would appear anytime soon in the next few years unless the company is forced to revert things back to a more viable platform.

     
      

    #28
    notuptome2004
    SSC Member
    • Total Posts : 821
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2009/06/29 22:26:23
    • Status: offline
    • Ribbons : 1
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/16 02:19:17 (permalink)
    Ok for those who are complaining about the windows 10 spying guess what   Windows 7 is also spying as well as windows 8.1    but you can disable it all  with this  
     
     
     
    https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/  Spybot anti Beacon   so simple to use   so no reason to complain now  
    #29
    candle_86
    CLASSIFIED Member
    • Total Posts : 3085
    • Reward points : 0
    • Joined: 2007/02/24 17:59:37
    • Location: Fort Worth, Texas
    • Status: online
    • Ribbons : 6
    Re: Future Motherboards use w/ W7 2016/03/16 11:41:54 (permalink)
    actually it makes sense, for every manufacture to follow suite, it saves them costly R&D time, right now they test against 7, 8, 8.1 and 10. If they could only test against say 10 they save a lot of time. Some might even still test for Vista


    #30
    Page: 12 > Showing page 1 of 2
    Jump to:
  • Back to Mobile