Bowenac
 So yea a difference of 43 on core clock, 86 on shader clock, and 100 on mem compared to SC cards. Suddenly the SC cards don't look that much better than those vanilla cards to the AVG person. I don't get why most of you don't understand how some people would be upset.
 

Bowenac

Everyone keeps talking about how ohh it's only a little bump, the SC will still be a lot higher. But really the SC is only a little bump higher then the FPB cards now.

Look the SC is clocked at
763
1526
1900

The vanilla cards clocked at
675
1350
1800

The FPB will clock vanilla cards to.
720 boost of 45
1440 boost of 90
1800

So yea a difference of 43 on core clock, 86 on shader clock, and 100 on mem compared to SC cards. Suddenly the SC cards don't look that much better than those vanilla cards to the AVG person. I don't get why most of you don't understand how some people would be upset.

This is like someone buying a barebones Mustang V6 = vanilla GTX460. And another guy buys the top dog Shelby GT500 = SC GTX460.
Then a couple weeks later ford releases, a free performance boost for the barebones Mustang V6 and it puts it's performance up with the GT500. I am sure all the owners of the GT500 would be a little curious as to why they are not getting a boost as well if the barebones got one that put the performance up close with there GT500.

pstlouis

Bowenac

EVGA_JacobF

Martris

So what your saying is, I paid extra for my SC card and your going to boost the regulars close to my SC card for free?  Anyone else feel cheated?  I know I do.

The SC will still be quite a bit faster actually.

How will this work exactly. I have not seen you post if this is a BIOS flash or Precision Update.

And yea how will the SC be any faster if no clocks are change with this update. If anything, regular 460's will now be closer or like a SC. So explain to me why I purchased an SC now.

How is it that EVGA is able and willing to boost clocks on regular cards in this FPB but only on vanilla cards. So are the SC clocks going to be raised as well? If not how will they be quite a bit faster?

to Jacob

I noticed that upgrade will be done in windows. That's mean that the bios modification will be change a little and I will not flash the entire bios ?

EVGA_JacobF

pstlouis

Bowenac

EVGA_JacobF

Martris

So what your saying is, I paid extra for my SC card and your going to boost the regulars close to my SC card for free?  Anyone else feel cheated?  I know I do.

The SC will still be quite a bit faster actually.

How will this work exactly. I have not seen you post if this is a BIOS flash or Precision Update.

And yea how will the SC be any faster if no clocks are change with this update. If anything, regular 460's will now be closer or like a SC. So explain to me why I purchased an SC now.

How is it that EVGA is able and willing to boost clocks on regular cards in this FPB but only on vanilla cards. So are the SC clocks going to be raised as well? If not how will they be quite a bit faster?

to Jacob

I noticed that upgrade will be done in windows. That's mean that the bios modification will be change a little and I will not flash the entire bios ?

Actually it will reflash the entire BIOS, yes it is a Windows update.

Bowenac

YerBuddy

Bowenac 

This is like someone buying a barebones Mustang V6 = vanilla GTX460. And another guy buys the top dog Shelby GT500 = SC GTX460. Then a couple weeks later ford releases, a free performance boost for the barebones Mustang V6 and it puts it's performance up with the GT500. I am sure all the owners of the GT500 would be a little curious as to why they are not getting a boost as well if the barebones got one that put the performance up close with there GT500.

This analogy is not even in the same ballpark.  In fact, it's absolutely ridiculous.  First off, the performance is still not "up with the" SC.  It's not even close.  I would perhaps understand your analogy if the barebones Mustang V6 was given a small comfort package or something similar for free (oh wait, that happens all the time at dealers), but your saying that now because someone bought a 460 vanilla, and EVGA decides to give it a small boost, it will be exactly the same as your SC card that you paid what, $10-$20 more for?  Give me a break!  The sad part is you still won't understand what I just wrote... 

What makes you think I won't understand what you wrote haha anyways...

How is it not in the same ballpark, is it because of the cost difference in my analogy or what? It is the same type of situation like it or not, how is it not? It makes perfect sense. Comfort Package? **** no a Shelby GT500 is not just a comfort package haha. And no they do not just give performance upgrades at dealers all the time. Yea come on down to the ford dealer where we will turn your barebones V6 into a Saleen. Happens all the time right...

And yes the FPB puts the cards up with SC cards not at or above I said up with. There is a difference but you obviously don't know the difference. I even posted the difference in clock speeds with this FPB.

The FPB will clock vanilla cards to.
720 boost of 45
1440 boost of 90
1800

SC cards run at
763
1526
1900

So yea that is pretty close to SC clocks. The difference being 43, 86 in clock speeds. So the vanilla cards get a boost of 45,90. So lets add that to the SC clocks

SC card with FPB
808
1616
1900

There that looks better. Now obviously I can hit these my self but that is not the point. I am not talking for me, I am talking for people who don't want to touch the cards. Isn't that the whole marketing concept of factory OC cards like the SC, and like others have said get a better bin.

So why are they not adding that same 45, 90 point boost to the SC if the SC bins are so good they should be able to handle it to right.

Again I don't care either way, but it is funny to me how you don't get what I am talking about. Or maybe you just don't want to get the point.

YerBuddy

Bowenac

YerBuddy

Bowenac 

This is like someone buying a barebones Mustang V6 = vanilla GTX460. And another guy buys the top dog Shelby GT500 = SC GTX460. Then a couple weeks later ford releases, a free performance boost for the barebones Mustang V6 and it puts it's performance up with the GT500. I am sure all the owners of the GT500 would be a little curious as to why they are not getting a boost as well if the barebones got one that put the performance up close with there GT500.

This analogy is not even in the same ballpark.  In fact, it's absolutely ridiculous.  First off, the performance is still not "up with the" SC.  It's not even close.  I would perhaps understand your analogy if the barebones Mustang V6 was given a small comfort package or something similar for free (oh wait, that happens all the time at dealers), but your saying that now because someone bought a 460 vanilla, and EVGA decides to give it a small boost, it will be exactly the same as your SC card that you paid what, $10-$20 more for?  Give me a break!  The sad part is you still won't understand what I just wrote... 

What makes you think I won't understand what you wrote haha anyways...

How is it not in the same ballpark, is it because of the cost difference in my analogy or what? It is the same type of situation like it or not, how is it not? It makes perfect sense. Comfort Package? **** no a Shelby GT500 is not just a comfort package haha. And no they do not just give performance upgrades at dealers all the time. Yea come on down to the ford dealer where we will turn your barebones V6 into a Saleen. Happens all the time right...

And yes the FPB puts the cards up with SC cards not at or above I said up with. There is a difference but you obviously don't know the difference. I even posted the difference in clock speeds with this FPB.

The FPB will clock vanilla cards to.
720 boost of 45
1440 boost of 90
1800

SC cards run at
763
1526
1900

So yea that is pretty close to SC clocks. The difference being 43, 86 in clock speeds. So the vanilla cards get a boost of 45,90. So lets add that to the SC clocks

SC card with FPB
808
1616
1900

There that looks better. Now obviously I can hit these my self but that is not the point. I am not talking for me, I am talking for people who don't want to touch the cards. Isn't that the whole marketing concept of factory OC cards like the SC, and like others have said get a better bin.

So why are they not adding that same 45, 90 point boost to the SC if the SC bins are so good they should be able to handle it to right.

Again I don't care either way, but it is funny to me how you don't get what I am talking about. Or maybe you just don't want to get the point.

Like I said, you did not understand at all.  Just be glad I'm not the EVGA king.  I'd boost all the vanilla 460s past your SC just to watch you cry some more.  It's shameless and pathetic.


You clearly wrote that "it puts it's performance up with the GT500"-- you know, the bold part I highlighted in your quote... The 460 FPB doesn't do that.  It doesn't "put it's performance up" with the SC.  Yes, there is a boost (hence the name) but it doesn't put it's performance numbers at the same clocks.  So, the analogy is not in the same ballpark.  What can't you understand about that?  I get exactly what you are talking about, but it's still not the same.  The numbers don't lie.  It's a freaking minor boost...that's it.  There's no need to cry and gnash your teeth about it.  My goodness, for $10 you act as if EVGA owes you something other than what they have to offer.  If the boost was bringing the vanilla up to the same clocks as the SC then, and only then, would I agree with you.  I might even agree with you if they were close, but that tiny little boost is still not going to be something that an SC owner, or future owner, needs to be concerned with.  


What's sad is now I'm almost positive you will still not understand what I just wrote.  I'm done with you.

EVGA_JacobF

Soon we will release an update that will increase the performance on standard EVGA GTX 460 cards (part numbers 768-P3-1360-__ and 01G-P3-1371-__)

Also, this update will unlock the fanspeed, allowing you to set up to 100% fanspeed in EVGA Precision on GTX 460! (Note that this feature will be available with an update on all EVGA cards, including SC models)

Also this will be available by default on all new production cards from EVGA.