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I'm scouring forums around the Internet, and am in two minds.
The W1 has fantastic pricing, solid user reviews on various online stores and decent professional reviews.
But on forums, the folks are saying it is terrible and not recommended except for the most cash strapped of consumers.
Let me outline my use case: I have a stock PC with i5 3330, 2x4GB RAM, HDD, mobo and a DVD drive, and am buying a GTX 960 to add to that. None of these components are (or will be) over clocked. I calculated my absolute max power draw should be no more than 250W.
How long can I expect the W1 to last me? Is it as bad as what I'm reading on certain forums?
Thanks!
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 05:13:31
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 06:27:34
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What's the likelihood of a W1 500W failing, compared to a B1 600W? Is it worth paying $5 more for the B1 600W?
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 06:32:47
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If the 600W is in your budget, then you can go for that. The 500W is very reliable, and I've got a couple of them myself.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 06:49:35
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What's the likelihood of a W1 500W failing, compared to a B1 600W? Is it worth paying $5 more for the B1 600W?
There is no difference in how likely it will fail or not. Some power supplies will last forever and others will just fail. A 'Gold' PSU is more efficient than a 'Bronze' and is why I recommended the G2 power supply. I have a Silencer 750 and a Silencer 910 and both are still working fine after almost 7 years while my Platinum rated Silencer Mk III 1200w just died on me last week after only 2 years. A filter capacitor exploded and it sounded like a gunshot going off. I decided to get the EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2 as a replacement.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 06:56:05
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As Zuhl said.
Anything with moving parts can fail in seconds. A $50 power supply could out last a power supply that costs $200, or vise versa.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 09:53:58
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I'd have to disagree with the above, Japanese capacitors are proven to last longer than cheaper ones, which the 500W does not have. In fact, the 500W unit contains CapXon capacitors, infamous for dying out because they are cheap. While it does not always mean Japanese capacitors ALWAYS outlast cheaper ones, why skimp on what's arguably the most important unit of your system? Also there's a lot more that goes into a PSU than "moving parts". The way it filters ripple and if the voltage regulation is poor or not can and will impact the life of your other components. It's a budget PSU intended for a budget rig. If you're in the money for something a little better, get the 550 G2 or GS or the 600W. Even the 500B will be much better in terms of how cleaner the voltage delivery will be. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=384
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:04:44
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:13:06
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I'd have to disagree with the above, Japanese capacitors are proven to last longer than cheaper ones, which the 500W does not have. In fact, the 500W unit contains CapXon capacitors, infamous for dying out because they are cheap. While it does not always mean Japanese capacitors ALWAYS outlast cheaper ones, why skimp on what's arguably the most important unit of your system? Also there's a lot more that goes into a PSU than "moving parts". The way it filters ripple and if the voltage regulation is poor or not can and will impact the life of your other components. It's a budget PSU intended for a budget rig. If you're in the money for something a little better, get the 550 G2 or GS or the 600W. Even the 500B will be much better in terms of how cleaner the voltage delivery will be.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=384
Really? because I purchased an EVGA PSU which was $150 (Yeah yeah, all "Japanese" capacitors...). 6 months later, the capacitor blew (which was the sound of a gunshot), frying the motherboard (EVGA on that too). Went and purchased a corsair psu for $80 from best buy, which is still going. I am not doubting EVGA one bit, but things happen. So what I have provided can happen. Think what you like, but PSUs have moving parts, and anything can happen to them. Any electronic can end at a minute notice. Do you really think that electronics will last? Don't be naïve.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:14:05
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My 1300 G2 has CapXon capacitors on the modular board too. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=349
Yeah, I did notice that too when I was debating on getting myself the 1300 or 1200 P2...It's what made me get the P2 personally, but I am very very picky when it comes to PSUs. The 1300 G2 is still great because the caps it uses for line filtering and the mainboard are generally good. I'm not sure why EVGA claims the 1300 G2 has 100% Japanese caps on the product listing. Perhaps they only mean the mainboard which is a little misleading IMO.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:16:32
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Really? because I purchased an EVGA PSU which was $150 (Yeah yeah, all "Japanese" capacitors...). 6 months later, the capacitor blew (which was the sound of a gunshot), frying the motherboard (EVGA on that too). Went and purchased a corsair psu for $80 from best buy, which is still going. I am not doubting EVGA one bit, but things happen. So what I have provided can happen. Think what you like, but PSUs have moving parts, and anything can happen. Any electronic can end at a minute notice. Do you really think that electronics will last? Don't be naïve.
Yes, I'm not saying moving parts don't matter. In fact my 1200 P2 had an issue with the fan controller and I had to RMA it just recently, you'll see my thread in this section. I'm not trying to start an argument, but trying to educate the OP that what's inside the PSU can affect the life of other components and should be a major part of the purchasing decision. Yes, anything can happen even good units fail, but if the budget allows for a better PSU I would never skimp on it.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:18:25
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disregard. read it wrong.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:20:31
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Really? because I purchased an EVGA PSU which was $150. 6 months later, the capacitor blew, frying my motherboard (EVGA on that too). Went and purchased a corsair for $80 from best buy, which is still going. I am not doubting EVGA one bit, but things happen. So what I have provided can happen. Think what you like, but PSUs have moving parts, and anything can happen.
Yes, I'm not saying moving parts don't matter. In fact my 1200 P2 had an issue with the fan controller and I had to RMA it just recently, you'll see my thread in this section. I'm not trying to start an argument, but trying to educate the OP that what's inside the PSU can affect the life of other components and should be a major part of the purchasing decision. Yes, anything can happen even good units fail, but if the budget allows for a better PSU I would never skimp on it.
Never said that. I said that a cheaper PSU could out last a more expensive PSU.
The benefits of the cleaner voltage delivery and ripple filtering that higher quality units provide is important to mention however which is all I said. And naive? There is no need to get so unnecessarily defensive. Don't try to find an argument when there isn't one to be had. We are all trying to help OP with his purchase.  Anything cheaper has the chance of outlasting something more expensive. I think we all understand that.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:21:50
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I don't pay much attention about where a capacitor is manufactured. It's a relatively simple component to manufacture. I think the age is more important than where it is made. The longer it sits on a shelf affects it a lot. Anything can make one explode like the one in my Silencer Mk III. A short inside or a spurt of alternating current from a failing bridge rectifier can make it go 'BOOM'.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:22:07
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Really? because I purchased an EVGA PSU which was $150 (Yeah yeah, all "Japanese" capacitors...). 6 months later, the capacitor blew (which was the sound of a gunshot), frying the motherboard (EVGA on that too). Went and purchased a corsair psu for $80 from best buy, which is still going. I am not doubting EVGA one bit, but things happen. So what I have provided can happen. Think what you like, but PSUs have moving parts, and anything can happen. Any electronic can end at a minute notice. Do you really think that electronics will last? Don't be naïve.
Yes, I'm not saying moving parts don't matter. In fact my 1200 P2 had an issue with the fan controller and I had to RMA it just recently, you'll see my thread in this section. I'm not trying to start an argument, but trying to educate the OP that what's inside the PSU can affect the life of other components and should be a major part of the purchasing decision. Yes, anything can happen even good units fail, but if the budget allows for a better PSU I would never skimp on it.
Exactly. I agree with you 100% that the inner parts of a PSU are very important. I strongly disagree with going with cheaper PSUs, and would rather go with the more expensive ones, because, yes, they're deemed to outlast and out perform the cheaper ones. Some tend to go the cheaper route though....
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:26:23
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Really? because I purchased an EVGA PSU which was $150. 6 months later, the capacitor blew, frying my motherboard (EVGA on that too). Went and purchased a corsair for $80 from best buy, which is still going. I am not doubting EVGA one bit, but things happen. So what I have provided can happen. Think what you like, but PSUs have moving parts, and anything can happen.
Yes, I'm not saying moving parts don't matter. In fact my 1200 P2 had an issue with the fan controller and I had to RMA it just recently, you'll see my thread in this section. I'm not trying to start an argument, but trying to educate the OP that what's inside the PSU can affect the life of other components and should be a major part of the purchasing decision. Yes, anything can happen even good units fail, but if the budget allows for a better PSU I would never skimp on it.
Never said that. I said that a cheaper PSU could out last a more expensive PSU.
The benefits of the cleaner voltage delivery and ripple filtering that higher quality units provide is important to mention however which is all I said. And naive? There is no need to get so unnecessarily defensive. Don't try to find an argument when there isn't one to be had. We are all trying to help OP with his purchase. Anything cheaper has the chance of outlasting something more expensive. I think we all understand that.
Apologies, I read your statement incorrect. Sorry. Doing 3 things at once always gets me.  . People have offered better recommendations for the OP with no doubt. He insists that the 430 watt(?) will do him plenty. So, I feel he has made his choice.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:28:56
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A quality power supply is very important and it is not something I would cut corners with trying to save a buck.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:33:33
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I don't pay much attention about where a capacitor is manufactured. It's a relatively simple component to manufacture. I think the age is more important than where it is made. The longer it sits on a shelf affects it a lot. Anything can make one explode like the one in my Silencer Mk III. A short inside or a spurt of alternating current from a failing bridge rectifier can make it go 'BOOM'.
Yes capacitors are very simple components, but where they are placed could have a large domino effect if they die out but of course they are not the whole picture. Even the best capacitors could be defective and blow quickly. Shelf life also is a great point but unfortunately unless we know what the most popular units are so that they are constantly being restocked with new ones, it's hard to know. stalinx20
Exactly. I agree with you 100% that the inner parts of a PSU are very important. I strongly disagree with going with cheaper PSUs, and would rather go with the more expensive ones, because, yes, they're deemed to outlast and out perform the cheaper ones. Some tend to go the cheaper route though....
Yes, and I didn't wish to come across that the 500W unit is terrible. In fact for its price it is actually pretty good, I am sure that EVGA did the best they could for that price bracket but for just a little bit more money EVGA has some better choices. I was not intending to start an argument, just wished to provide insight from a different perspective in case OP did not know that the PSU could affect the life of his components. Hope there are no hard feelings. :)
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:42:47
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I don't pay much attention about where a capacitor is manufactured. It's a relatively simple component to manufacture. I think the age is more important than where it is made. The longer it sits on a shelf affects it a lot. Anything can make one explode like the one in my Silencer Mk III. A short inside or a spurt of alternating current from a failing bridge rectifier can make it go 'BOOM'.
Yes capacitors are very simple components, but where they are placed could have a large domino effect if they die out but of course they are not the whole picture. Even the best capacitors could be defective and blow quickly. Shelf life also is a great point but unfortunately unless we know what the most popular units are so that they are constantly being restocked with new ones, it's hard to know.
stalinx20
Exactly. I agree with you 100% that the inner parts of a PSU are very important. I strongly disagree with going with cheaper PSUs, and would rather go with the more expensive ones, because, yes, they're deemed to outlast and out perform the cheaper ones. Some tend to go the cheaper route though....
Yes, and I didn't wish to come across that the 500W unit is terrible. In fact for its price it is actually pretty good, I am sure that EVGA did the best they could for that price bracket but for just a little bit more money EVGA has some better choices. I was not intending to start an argument, just wished to provide insight from a different perspective in case OP did not know that the PSU could affect the life of his components. Hope there are no hard feelings. :)
No, not at all. Was just being straight forward with you. We all try to provide the best information possible to show which one they should go for, but we all like to try and "save a few dollars". Sometimes the money we try and save, we pay for it later.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 10:54:45
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+1 For the 550 G2 or GS. Also for ECO mode as well if you want a little more quiet when idling.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 11:10:41
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I'd have to disagree with the above, Japanese capacitors are proven to last longer than cheaper ones, which the 500W does not have. In fact, the 500W unit contains CapXon capacitors, infamous for dying out because they are cheap. While it does not always mean Japanese capacitors ALWAYS outlast cheaper ones, why skimp on what's arguably the most important unit of your system? Also there's a lot more that goes into a PSU than "moving parts". The way it filters ripple and if the voltage regulation is poor or not can and will impact the life of your other components. It's a budget PSU intended for a budget rig. If you're in the money for something a little better, get the 550 G2 or GS or the 600W. Even the 500B will be much better in terms of how cleaner the voltage delivery will be.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=384
Ok, so between the W1 500W and B1 600W, is there a difference? I just got the B1 600W in the end, cause it was $5 more expensive only than a W1 500W. Like I said though, I absolutely will not be stressing out my build. Hope it lasts at least 2-3 years. My first ever PSU purchase.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 11:59:05
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I'd have to disagree with the above, Japanese capacitors are proven to last longer than cheaper ones, which the 500W does not have. In fact, the 500W unit contains CapXon capacitors, infamous for dying out because they are cheap. While it does not always mean Japanese capacitors ALWAYS outlast cheaper ones, why skimp on what's arguably the most important unit of your system? Also there's a lot more that goes into a PSU than "moving parts". The way it filters ripple and if the voltage regulation is poor or not can and will impact the life of your other components. It's a budget PSU intended for a budget rig. If you're in the money for something a little better, get the 550 G2 or GS or the 600W. Even the 500B will be much better in terms of how cleaner the voltage delivery will be.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=384
Ok, so between the W1 500W and B1 600W, is there a difference? I just got the B1 600W in the end, cause it was $5 more expensive only than a W1 500W. Like I said though, I absolutely will not be stressing out my build. Hope it lasts at least 2-3 years. My first ever PSU purchase.
It should even last up to 7 or so.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 12:02:26
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How long can I expect the W1 to last me? Is it as bad as what I'm reading on certain forums?
Thanks!
Until the warranty period is over. Once the warranty period is over I would personally buy another psu.
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 16:29:43
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PSU is not case fan or CPU cooler and than to ask is it worth 5 or 10$ more...
That's hardware for 2-3 configurations and everyone should think first what they want and how much could pay and than to invest...
I think no matter on 10 years warranty that PSU should be replaced on max 6-7 years if someone keep expensive configuration with huge power consumption and if PC work almost constantly.
It's different when PSU work 5 years constantly and when someone enable computer over weekend or 4-5h daily.
My computer is not restarted sometimes over week and 10 years is very long period.
If you look hardware before 10 years that look funny...
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Re: For how long could a EVGA W1 500W PSU last? Is it really that terrible?
2016/04/28 18:38:10
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I'd have to disagree with the above, Japanese capacitors are proven to last longer than cheaper ones, which the 500W does not have. In fact, the 500W unit contains CapXon capacitors, infamous for dying out because they are cheap. While it does not always mean Japanese capacitors ALWAYS outlast cheaper ones, why skimp on what's arguably the most important unit of your system? Also there's a lot more that goes into a PSU than "moving parts". The way it filters ripple and if the voltage regulation is poor or not can and will impact the life of your other components. It's a budget PSU intended for a budget rig. If you're in the money for something a little better, get the 550 G2 or GS or the 600W. Even the 500B will be much better in terms of how cleaner the voltage delivery will be.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=384
Ok, so between the W1 500W and B1 600W, is there a difference? I just got the B1 600W in the end, cause it was $5 more expensive only than a W1 500W. Like I said though, I absolutely will not be stressing out my build. Hope it lasts at least 2-3 years. My first ever PSU purchase.
Only difference is most likely the efficiency rating. I imagine they're built almost identically internally between those two units. It should serve you fine after 3 years but after that point I would upgrade. The reason for the short warranty is that budget end PSUs typically tend to degrade quicker, and although it may work well past the 3 year mark, power delivery becomes less clean and ripple increases due to this degradation of the lower end components within which could lower the life of your hardware down the line. This all comes down to how stressed the unit is of course. A PSU used for in a 24/7 folding rig will degrade monumentally quicker than one used for light gaming.
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