0kr0n1k

theGryphon

I guess you mean EXACTLY FALLACY, because that's what it is...

@ blackomega: I don't know where you got that false info but folding on two different GPU's on the same system has no analogy to RAM sticks. Different GPU's fold independent from each other.

No, they won't. Go stick a 9800GT and a 275 in the same system and tell me if you get the maximum output from each one. You won't. It's been proven. Unless something has changed with regards to this in the past couple of months, this is the truth. You can fold on the same series G200, G80, G92 and there is some intermixing, but you most verifiably CAN NOT fold to maximum output on, for example, a 9800GT and a GTX275. The RAM analogy holds water. It's different at the technical level, but conceptually it's the same, with some exceptions.

For three weeks I ran a 9800GTX+ and a GTX 260 in my system and I was getting the expected PPD on both. So, I'm here debunking what you just said.

^Edit: That was two months ago...

Where is this so-called proof?

RAM analogy is as irrelevant as it gets...

theGryphon

0kr0n1k

theGryphon

I guess you mean EXACTLY FALLACY, because that's what it is...

@ blackomega: I don't know where you got that false info but folding on two different GPU's on the same system has no analogy to RAM sticks. Different GPU's fold independent from each other.

No, they won't. Go stick a 9800GT and a 275 in the same system and tell me if you get the maximum output from each one. You won't. It's been proven. Unless something has changed with regards to this in the past couple of months, this is the truth. You can fold on the same series G200, G80, G92 and there is some intermixing, but you most verifiably CAN NOT fold to maximum output on, for example, a 9800GT and a GTX275. The RAM analogy holds water. It's different at the technical level, but conceptually it's the same, with some exceptions.

For three weeks I ran a 9800GTX+ and a GTX 260 in my system and I was getting the expected PPD on both. So, I'm here debunking what you just said.

Where is this so-called proof?

RAM analogy is as irrelevant as it gets...

That was corrected months ago with the release of a new core that allowed mix GPUs to fold together

My browser is being weird right now, so quoting isn't working so I'll do this the old fashioned way.

@Foldmiester I'm not complaining for myself. I personally don't care much about the promo and I realize it doesn't exclude me from earning EVGA bucks. You missed my point. It does leave out low PPD folders, and that sends a message.

@kscott190 Thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of this. I rescind my previous statement. "Back in my day", you couldn't do this and get maximum output out of both. I had a 295 and a 9800GT and they didn't play nice together, so I stepped the 9800 up to a 275

I think a resolution would be to allow the lower ppd contributors to do the cumulative.

sirgrinalot

I think a resolution would be to allow the lower ppd contributors to do the cumulative.

 
I think I am correct in saying that this is why we have a new promotion...it prevents people from stopping folding at 1 mil.

sirgrinalot

I think a resolution would be to allow the lower ppd contributors to do the cumulative.

 
Another point I feel I need to make is most lower ppd folders will reach the 100kppd and earn $60, no different than what they could earn last year.
 
100k/month = $5x12=$60....those that produce more will earn more...very simple.
 
Also there were some that resorted to folding for friends to make the 1 mil.  This was cheating plain and simple.

Foldmiester
 
100k/month = $5x12=$60....those that produce more will earn more...very simple.
 

What do you tell those that get less than 100k/month? Sorry, this promotion is not for you?

sirgrinalot

What do you tell those that get less than 100k/month? Sorry, this promotion is not for you?

Fold harder!

The bucks are a reward not a right.

If it were up to me I'd lock it and leave just the announcement of the incentive posted.

heydabop

0kr0n1k

heydabop

BlackOmega, what happened to your PPD (or where did it go) when you hit 1,016,087 points?  

 

heydabop
Okay, it was an honest question, and thank you for your answer. Sorry for your conditions.

That was pretty clearly an attempt at goading him into revealing that he was only folding for the money. This type of stuff bothers me, because, frankly, just as it's EVGA's promotion and they're free to run it how they like, people are free to use their resources how they like. Because it offends some people that some people would only fold for the money is no reason to be the character police. Like I have said before, it shouldn't really matter how the points are accumulated. 

Had it of been as you said, I probably would've just asked about him passing 1mil. Someone could ask me the same thing and I could give a reasonable answer. Also, seeing as he folded for at least 2 days after hitting 1mil, I would think there's a little more than money involved. Especially since as it has been previously stated, the $100 doesn't cover the electricity and/or A/C for 1,000,000 points. And thanks to his answer, I've learned something about him and his currently family condition. It's nice to see the people behind the words, names, and avatars.


And with that, I'm going to state one more time that I'm very happy with EVGA's promotion. Thanks for bringing me into folding guys.
Fold on! 

I'll go ahead and apologize for my post. There's just been too much of the whole "well why did you stop at 1Mil?" talk that... yeah. It's just been a long day 

2 new folders just joined the team

Foldmiester

sirgrinalot

I think a resolution would be to allow the lower ppd contributors to do the cumulative.

 
I think I am correct in saying that this is why we have a new promotion...it prevents people from stopping folding at 1 mil.

remember hobbiezones I'm about to pass him
http://folding.extremeove...ry.php?s=&u=480209

Monthly Production Month Points WUs 02.10 0 0 01.10 0 0 12.09 0 0 11.09 385,679 659 10.09 802,907 1,392 09.09 0 0 08.09 0 0 07.09 0 0 06.09 0 0 05.09 0 0 04.09 0 0 03.09 0 0 02.09 0

stop shy over 1 million and stop folding.
he folds for maxmium pc

just want to point this out that's all
I know I fold with my computer on and sometimes have my computer off

rcranfield

If it were up to me I'd lock it and leave just the announcement of the incentive posted.

+1!  It would be nice to have the official announcement in a thread by itself, without all the opinions.  People could carry on the discussion in a separate non-sticky thread that hopefully would fall off the front page after a while.  Can mods split a thread in this forum?

Foldmiester

  Another point I feel I need to make is most lower ppd folders will reach the 100kppd and earn $60, no different than what they could earn last year.
 
100k/month = $5x12=$60....those that produce more will earn more...very simple.
 
Also there were some that resorted to folding for friends to make the 1 mil.  This was cheating plain and simple.

Wait, what?

Foldmiester

Another thing to keep in mind is that other teams read our message boards....I can see them laughing over this, it is time to show our professional side. 

Someone said a few may quit...I will help cover their lost PPD, I can produce up to an additional35,000PPD if needed .
 
Remember that nobody forced any of us to join or to fold.
 
C'mon Team....Let's clean this up and move on. 

0kr0n1k

@theGryphon 

There were workarounds to get them to work together with some stability, but in my case, even with that resolution, both sides of the 295 folded at the same level as the 9800GT. Really really, not making it up, no need to get hostile.

 Gryph, Kron1k is not making this up. About 6-8 months ago, if you used a considerably weaker GPU with a more powerful one the more powerful one would, in fact, lower its PPD output considerably.
  It's good to see that the new clients did remedy this.

sirgrinalot

I think a resolution would be to allow the lower ppd contributors to do the cumulative.

 I think that would be a great resolution. That way no one is left out. Unfortunately this could be a rather daunting task for the Evga people that would have to review this. But, it would be a great way to retain the small guys.

EVGAWeb_ShaneD

I will be forced to lock this thread if it continues to degrade.  Discuss, do not attack.

We knew that upping the standards of the promotion was going to upset some, but as I've said about twice in the thread so far, we wanted to make it more difficult and we wanted to reward the long term EVGA folders.  We believe that earning 120 EVGA bucks should be difficult.

Please continue the discussion, but I will pull this car over if I have to.

Yep it will upset a few sure, but the Goods of this promotion far outwiegh the bads, it was well thought out by the evga staff, No denying that. It's just I wanted to post my thoughts on what some may not like about it and have to consider (not complaints or attacks).

1. I have to shut the folding off on one of my systems just to play games for example, but I can still make the 250K a month deadline. Others on lower end systems may not have that option and may have to give up games if they want to make it.

2. If Stanfords servers are having issues like servers down, no work available, hardware failures, etc that would also hurt the monthly requirement.

3. Those on multiple high end systems that can get 3 million easily fast still have to wait the full 12 months to get the full 120 bucks they want to buy something. (I know this seems odd, since if you can afford multiple computers, you can afford a fermi card without the promotion, but still a valid thought.)