Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/19 20:41:01
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chris21010 Play on two teams is all, like as well do they also go after the Coin.
  Curecoin
I did it to only to test it out.
1 bcavnaugh 548820703 15396 111065 EVGA
2 bcavnaugh 648397 8 224497 Curecoin (224497)
oh, playing multiple teams at the same time... i dont see a problem with it. i fold for EVGA cuz i can not cuz of the coin. last month was the first month i could actually afford to fold full tilt for EVGA to help reach that 100 billion milestone. its nice knowing that i can fold 24/7 and have my power costs covered. who here who actually wants to find a cure not want to also cover costs of doing so if you simply do the same work under another team number? i believe in the cause enough so to invest heavily into it and to hopefully see it grow into something more. its a passion for me.
And that is fine we have other team member that do the same.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/20 08:40:29
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they are down to 41.7% retention rate...and dropping off fast Server BS certainly didn't help I'm sure. On Reddit Dr. Pande said that he is waiting for results of survey many of us participated in months ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/...s_behind_folding_home/ Simply amazing...donors tell you what to do to retain interest for 10 years and you ban them for their vocal advocacy....then you wait for a year for a "study" to tell you what donors want... You just can't make this stuff up. 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 17:08:36
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Cool GTX your new hardware has pushed team EVGA back to number one in production. We lost to Curecoin yesterday.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 20:22:57
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Honestly, based on what I'm seeing EOC's numbers doing, I don't think we can trust the 24 hour avg production for another week or two. Our actual production numbers are around 118 Million ppd and the calculated avg is showing at well north of 130 Million PPD . . . Something isn't right, and I'm betting it's the downtime we just had from the server updates that are skewing those numbers.
Give it some time and we'll see how we really stand against Curecoin and Barnacules.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 20:26:11
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I agree, the server downtime is still skewing numbers.
Should level out tomorrow or Friday tho.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 20:37:32
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Stop looking at the averages and start looking at the actual production numbers. We lost to cure yesterday, first time sence it launched, by 1.5 million and we are only 64k ahead so far today, as of the 9pm update. So today could swing either way honestly.
post edited by Chris21010 - 2016/09/21 20:40:00
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 21:01:28
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Averages are important. The luck of the draw as far as the randomness of work unit projects is taken away by looking at historical trends over daily values. A comparison could be made to the weather. It may fluctuate from day to day but that isn't to say the average temperature isn't rising from March to August in the northern hemisphere.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 21:11:58
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Avgerage due to poor work unit sateration is only aplicable when you have few units worked. Teams work thousands of units a day, plenty enough units to get a good average. The only thing the 7 day avg does is help show new trends.
post edited by Chris21010 - 2016/09/21 21:14:16
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 21:11:58
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Why does my phone multiple post?
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 21:17:55
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You are assuming an equal number of available work units and luck of the draw distributed among teams. The randomness or unknown quantity of projects introduces chaos that can only be averaged out in historical trends. Not to mention work unit assignment servers going down. :)
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 21:42:27
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Again not relevent for teams because if a server goes down no team gets its work. If a unit isn't available no team gets it. The randomness and chaos is exactly why you only need a large sample size, with 4-5k being way more than enough.
All your points are valid ones for a single user doing a handful of units a day but the day to day team vs team numbers these points are no longer relevent.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/21 21:56:56
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They are valid depending on how a given team is structured. Right now the smart money is in GPU folding. A few years ago it was SMP. Anomalies for a given work unit server may drastically impact one team while not blipping the radar of another., in such a scenario.
Longevity is the key to normalization. Not daily.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 16:28:28
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The stats have leveled out since the points dump as of the 6pm Central update.
Curecoin is right there with us on the 24hr average +/- 200k.
But they are currently tracking for more points this week.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 17:45:16
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I just checked and we're out pacing them on the weekly total by about 100 Million points so far. 673,101,926 for us vs 573,741,483 for them as of the latest EOC update.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 17:52:12
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Where are you getting this?
I dont see that at all.....
Don't mean to call out the stats pimp, just want the info.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 17:57:15
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Cool GTX your new hardware has pushed team EVGA back to number one in production. We lost to Curecoin yesterday.
 The previously removed two displaced GPUs back online late today  Last couple of days were only the 4 Titan X cards; two from each generation. Now the 1080 FE and 980 SC are back Folding in a X58 Rig (estimate 1M- 1.5M PPD) Not helping getting a lot of server not found errors the last two days --- Windows 10 issue ?
post edited by Cool GTX - 2016/09/23 18:03:36
1) ASUS Z97-WS, i7-4790K@4.9GHz, 2-Way-SLI - EVGA GTX Titan X SC - EK block/plate, Custom loop, 32GB GSkill Ripjaws DDR3-2400, Samsumg Pro 850 SSD, 2-2TB WD Black, Phanteks Primo Case, Win 10 Pro 64bit, 4K Acer XB280HK monitor, EVGA 1600 P2 Supernova PSU, Fire Strike 1.1 = 21,842 2) EVGA X99 Classified, I7-5960X, 2- Titan X Pascal, 32GB GSkill Ripjaws DDR4-3000, Intel NVMe PCIe 750 SSD, Win10 Pro,PSU EVGA 1200 P2 Folding 2.5M PPD Affiliate code 05MLLDCG6B 
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 18:02:29
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Don't think it's a win 10 thing. I've been getting work.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 18:06:07
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I get work mostly, then 1 hour of server not found, then back to Folding - as to not derail --> I may make a separate thread if it keeps happening. I'll try to keep a closer eye on it; never happens while I'm actually monitoring it, come back hours later to see the errors
post edited by Cool GTX - 2016/09/23 18:07:18
1) ASUS Z97-WS, i7-4790K@4.9GHz, 2-Way-SLI - EVGA GTX Titan X SC - EK block/plate, Custom loop, 32GB GSkill Ripjaws DDR3-2400, Samsumg Pro 850 SSD, 2-2TB WD Black, Phanteks Primo Case, Win 10 Pro 64bit, 4K Acer XB280HK monitor, EVGA 1600 P2 Supernova PSU, Fire Strike 1.1 = 21,842 2) EVGA X99 Classified, I7-5960X, 2- Titan X Pascal, 32GB GSkill Ripjaws DDR4-3000, Intel NVMe PCIe 750 SSD, Win10 Pro,PSU EVGA 1200 P2 Folding 2.5M PPD Affiliate code 05MLLDCG6B
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 19:55:40
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Pssssshhhh, the day I get PO'd at being called out for the numbers is a long way away - Go http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=111065 and check out the column marked 'Points Week' The averages are also way off from what you were also pointing out. If you follow the actual dailys, you'll see that EOC's averages have FINALLY fallen back into place instead of being grossly over inflated because of the server outage and following MASSIVE dump. d
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 19:59:33
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Pssssshhhh, the day I get PO'd at being called out for the numbers is a long way away - Go http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=111065 and check out the column marked 'Points Week'
The averages are also way off from what you were also pointing out. If you follow the actual dailys, you'll see that EOC's averages have FINALLY fallen back into place instead of being grossly over inflated because of the server outage and following MASSIVE dump.
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Hmm, that looks different than when I looked, I was sorting the teams list by 24hr average and looked at points for the week. The fact that the averages are finally back to normal is what I was pointing out, no more inflation from the points dump. Edit: I think the difference I am seeing is because on the 9pm update, curecoin made a few more million than us.
post edited by un4givn85 - 2016/09/23 20:01:51
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/23 21:05:52
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The numbers keep changing around on us, but in the end it's all good. We're ultimately still on top of the heap for a while and when another 800 lb gorilla shows up, it's time for us to get our game face on and defend our slot on the top of the heap! This pimp has spent far to long busting his hump helping the team get and hold #1. I sure as heck won't let go without letting a few pimp hands fly! ;-)
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 04:27:19
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I just checked and we're out pacing them on the weekly total by about 100 Million points so far. 673,101,926 for us vs 573,741,483 for them as of the latest EOC update.
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I think there is a little confusion going on here, Drougnor. Your numbers were from our Team vs Barnacules Nerdgasm, while Un4givn85 was talking about Curecoin (they had 677,243,037 points at that time and still have a small lead in the last week).
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 09:03:51
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Ooooooohhhh. Thanks for pointing that out! I was over tired and shouldn't have been trying to do things with numbers. *laughs* My bad, folks, my bad.
Freshly reloading the chart and seeing the Curecoin team light up red as a 'danger' is kind of exciting. They've got a HECK of a long lead to chew up, but we've got someone bringing the fight to us!
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 09:24:13
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i think once CoolGTXs averages level out from having 6 GPUs folding, they wont be as much of a "threat" lol
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 14:38:08
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Just another thought from the other side of the fence. I've also noticed what appears to be a drop in active users every time the stat servers go on vacation. I'm not sure how much of that is the stat servers not being caught up with things when they get revived, or how many are leaving when they see Zero credits for the day's work on a web page when the stat servers are down. So retention of users may be a rather interesting one for many teams that don't have a 'dedicated' core of members keeping things going.
I had done crunching for another project years ago, and a combination of flaky servers and brand new computer parts exploding convinced me it was not worth the electricity and effort to keep things going. I am retired and am not made of money, so I can not afford to keep replacing things that breaks for a project that can't keep the 'WU' flow going, lol.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 15:35:04
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Is Team Barnacules Nerdgasm Providing you and your Team Mates up to $10.00 EVGA Bucks a Month? Over on But if you come over to Our Team and Leave the Dark Side you will receive EVGA Bucks! Or the Support Level that Our Team Provides to it's Team Members? Oh! And Welcome to the Forum zarcondeegrissom Of Team Barnacules Nerdgasm
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 16:01:21
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Not to my knowledge, not that it maters much to me. The ketch is the "Up to" in that, implying that it is less if you do not have the 3-phase power to feed a VCA cluster, and if you had a VCA cluster that would not be of any significance in any case. We do not crunch for BOINC or FAH for the 'benefits' from the effort of keeping the computers running, we do it because we are willing to support the scientist's work. I only dropped by to toss in the thought about active users vs the stat servers going on vacation. And I need to do something about the GTX960 watt-hog in my DAW, that may be covered in another thread somewhere (how to get the GTX960 under 100 watts TDP when doing Iray stuff).
post edited by zarcondeegrissom - 2016/09/24 16:02:32
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 16:06:03
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Not to my knowledge, not that it maters much to me. The ketch is the "Up to" in that, implying that it is less if you do not have the 3-phase power to feed a VCA cluster, and if you had a VCA cluster that would not be of any significance in any case. We do not crunch for BOINC or FAH for the 'benefits' from the effort of keeping the computers running, we do it because we are willing to support the scientist's work.
I only dropped by to toss in the thought about active users vs the stat servers going on vacation. And I need to do something about the GTX960 watt-hog in my DAW, that may be covered in another thread somewhere (how to get the GTX960 under 100 watts TDP when doing Iray stuff).
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 16:19:17
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Ah, so that did change from years past. I will say that minimum per month is well beyond the capabilities of my peasant-affordable computer that I must use for other things, lol. Thanks.
post edited by zarcondeegrissom - 2016/09/24 16:22:09
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production *untrue
2016/09/24 16:24:21
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Ah, so that did change from years past. I will say that minimum per month is well beyond the capabilities of my peasant-affordable computer that I must use for other things, lol.
No, is what really changed was newer Graphics Cards. Those who now have a new Pascal Graphics Card can really poor out the PPD as compared to Graphics Cards of the Past. You do not only help find a cure you also earn to help offset your cost of newer hardware from EVGA. And "we do it because we are willing to support the scientist's work." who supports you, EVGA.
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