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Re: Folding @ EVGA is #1 in Production *True
2016/09/02 10:31:49
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Yeah, it will be interesting. Drop off vs. new pickups because of the social media. Plus, how sticky they are to the team. Also, I think evga folding is on a steady upramp as more 10 series gpu's come online. You guys have a better feel for the seasonality and other cycles though. That all said, it's great to have new folders.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is #1 in Production *True
2016/09/02 10:42:55
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Chris21010 every avg you post pics of from extremeoverclocking is a 7 day avg. the only thing that is slightly relevant is that currently folding @ EVGA is ahead of Barnacules Nerdgasm by 4.6 million today. this however is day 2 of our monthly EVGA Bucks folding surge and will fall off some in a couple days. im just curious as to how long Barnacules Nerdgasm will be producing 125ish million per day, they are on track for 3 straight days.
I give it to many of them see their first electric bill after they start folding.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 10:43:42
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mektacular Yeah, it will be interesting. Drop off vs. new pickups because of the social media. Plus, how sticky they are to the team. Also, I think evga folding is on a steady upramp as more 10 series gpu's come online. You guys have a better feel for the seasonality and other cycles though. That all said, it's great to have new folders.
Subject Title Correction back to "Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production" or at least trying to.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is #1 in Production *True
2016/09/02 10:55:33
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Chris21010 every avg you post pics of from extremeoverclocking is a 7 day avg. the only thing that is slightly relevant is that currently folding @ EVGA is ahead of Barnacules Nerdgasm by 4.6 million today. this however is day 2 of our monthly EVGA Bucks folding surge and will fall off some in a couple days. im just curious as to how long Barnacules Nerdgasm will be producing 125ish million per day, they are on track for 3 straight days.
I give it to many of them see their first electric bill after they start folding.
i really don't see why this is as bad as it is. there are a lot of people that complain during the summer months when their A/C's are running and say that folding made their bill go up $100+, but that is just not accurate. after i the math i did to calculate the power usage and figure out how much my new 5 GPU folding rig would cost it came up to ~$80 a month, @ $0.21 per KWh. so divide that by 5 and you get $16 a month to run a 1070 FTW 24/7.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 11:15:24
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Chris21010 every avg you post pics of from extremeoverclocking is a 7 day avg. the only thing that is slightly relevant is that currently folding @ EVGA is ahead of Barnacules Nerdgasm by 4.6 million today. this however is day 2 of our monthly EVGA Bucks folding surge and will fall off some in a couple days. im just curious as to how long Barnacules Nerdgasm will be producing 125ish million per day, they are on track for 3 straight days.
I give it to many of them see their first electric bill after they start folding.
i really don't see why this is as bad as it is. there are a lot of people that complain during the summer months when their A/C's are running and say that folding made their bill go up $100+, but that is just not accurate. after i the math i did to calculate the power usage and figure out how much my new 5 GPU folding rig would cost it came up to ~$80 a month, @ $0.21 per KWh. so divide that by 5 and you get $16 a month to run a 1070 FTW 24/7.
https://www.xcelenergy.com/staticfiles/xe/Regulatory/COResRates.pdf
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 11:30:18
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I guess it all depends on how much you fold on how much hardware. I have seen many many people start folding all gunho, buy tons of hardware and then they stop folding. Just because the new 10xx sips electric, out of 3200 new folders, I am sure many are not new, but still how many are folding on older hardware? We do not know. When I am in full swing in the Winter I have 250+ cores crunching and several (4 to 7) GPUs either folding or BOINC GPUgrid. This year mostly Maxwell since I got rid of my 660Ti cards and upgraded to GTX970 to 980Ti. I like to run a lot of hardware to heat my house in the Winter, my electric bill does go up and it is more than 80$ I like to buy used hardwaare, I can buy more of it and why not put it to good use? So time will tell. Give it a month or two or three and we will see how well they are still doing. And 80$ a month is a lot of money to some people. Many live paycheck to paycheck
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 11:39:49
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i was saying $80 per month for 5 GPU's, people living from pay check to paycheck should sell 4 of those GPU's. also if i am reading that link to CO power rates right it looks like $0.09 per KWh with a base rate of $6.75... that seems a little low but the state avg is about $0.12 so it may be correct for you.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 11:42:55
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One computer at 500 watts 24/7 at 18 cents a KWH is 12kw a day x 30 days in a month is 360KWH 360KWH x 18 cents a KWH is $64.80 With an overclocked GPU and an overclocked CPU it is not hard to hit 500 watts. I guesstamate 50$ a month to fold per system with one GPU and CPU folding or crunching. I think it is a fair guess and as the GPUs get better and better it will be less. That is if electric stays the same price. I doubt that though, Only seems to go up and up as we were promised it would a few years ago.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 11:58:28
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One sec tech difficulties on cellphone. Edit: woops my calculation was for the 4 1070's I had running at the time not for 5. So $20 per month for a 200W TDP GPU. I also do not know where you got 500W from but that is enough to run two titans folding, no cpu folding.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 12:05:42
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Chris21010 i was saying $80 per month for 5 GPU's, people living from pay check to paycheck should sell 4 of those GPU's. also if i am reading that link to CO power rates right it looks like $0.09 per KWh with a base rate of $6.75... that seems a little low but the state avg is about $0.12 so it may be correct for you.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 12:08:37
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During winter you are paying nearly $0.09993 per KWh. So it would cost you half what it costs me.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 12:16:42
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Chris21010 One sec tech difficulties on cellphone.
Edit: woops my calculation was for the 4 1070's I had running at the time not for 5. So $20 per month for a 200W TDP GPU.
I also do not know where you got 500W from but that is enough to run two titans folding, no cpu folding.
Don't forget the GPU does not run all by itself. A motherboard with sound, network, a few fans and a couple hard drives and PUS electric usage is right around 100 watts right there alone. Add in the CPU and GPU, it add up.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 12:25:47
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ya and your GPU doesn't run at 100% TDP 24/7 either, more like 80-90% of TDP. so that alone is enough for all peripherals but again those will be drawing power as long as the PC is on, if you are folding or not. that is why i stick with just TDP of the GPU's folding as it represents the difference between folding or not folding, as my PC is already on 24/7.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 12:53:05
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Chris21010 ya and your GPU doesn't run at 100% TDP 24/7 either, more like 80-90% of TDP. so that alone is enough for all peripherals but again those will be drawing power as long as the PC is on, if you are folding or not. that is why i stick with just TDP of the GPU's folding as it represents the difference between folding or not folding, as my PC is already on 24/7.
Some of us do more then Just Fold. Normal Usage: I have 5 Computers running But ONLY on the GPU they are each taking 820 Watts to 900 Watts. Totaling of only 14 GPUs 6 980 3 Titans 3 780 and 2 R2 290X PG going on now: I have 4 Computers running ONLY on the CPU they are each taking 460 Watts to 510 Watts. I do not run GPUs while in an Event. Wattage & Usage Provided by UPS Units.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 13:03:48
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Regardless of whether other teams can over produce the EVGA folding team the bottom line is that all of us fold to find the 'cure'. I salute all folders from every team no matter where you are. We've lost two members of our forums to cancer in the last few years. This is a battle of folders against cancer and other diseases. In time and with patience, it's a battle we'll win.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/02 13:34:45
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 08:54:54
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 09:01:43
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toyking22 i dont see how we are loosing ?? i am looking at the folding @ home teams at http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&srt=3 and it says
evga 112,138,496 points 24 hour average as of 9am (week 724,223,136)
nerdgasm is doing 80,391,701 24 hour average again as of 9am (week 562,741,906)
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 09:12:03
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toyking22 i dont see how we are loosing ?? i am looking at the folding @ home teams at http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=&srt=3 and it says
evga 112,138,496 points 24 hour average as of 9am (week 724,223,136)
nerdgasm is doing 80,391,701 24 hour average again as of 9am (week 562,741,906)
all averages are over 7 days. the team is brand new so they have multiple 0 days in that avg bringing it down substantially. look at the points today tab or their actual profile to see the points they made on an individual day. here are the last 3 days: Barnacules Nerdgasm - 09.02.16 - 127,622,146
- 09.01.16 - 129,306,554
- 08.31.16 - 122,217,973
Folding @ EVGA - 09.02.16 - 134,402,191
- 09.01.16 - 124,633,753
- 08.31.16 - 103,650,664
so we lost 2 days in a row but the monthly EVGA Buck folders have kicked in which brought us back to #1 yesterday.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 10:03:15
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Sure, they are pulling in more points. But there is no point in worrying about it. They have a long way to go to catch up. And by then many of their number will have dropped off. Not to mention all the Winter folders on our team. Besides, the more folders in the world the better. It's nice to be number 1, but in the end the goal is to help research cures and every contribution counts.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 10:08:06
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So then we have to wait a couple two or three months and see what their monthly average is over time. They may produce more than EVGA a few days of the month, but not over a months time. Considering they have 3200 active folders and EVGA has 600 or so active folders, I am still not impressed with how much more they produce even one a good day
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 10:19:32
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ipkha Sure, they are pulling in more points. But there is no point in worrying about it. They have a long way to go to catch up. And by then many of their number will have dropped off. Not to mention all the Winter folders on our team. Besides, the more folders in the world the better. It's nice to be number 1, but in the end the goal is to help research cures and every contribution counts.
+1 Hopefully one day there will no longer be cancer and the other horrible diseases....
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 10:30:05
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ya, the whole point of this thread was simply to let everyone know that there is now another team that is at the same lvl EVGA is, at least for now. in the end the main goal of Folding is to help find a cure and to that end the more the merrier.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 11:30:02
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It'll be interesting to see how they progress. QRB will start for them soon enough if they got pass keys. Also, some of the EVGA crew were folding for Bjorn3d and may not have switched back yet. Others are more active in the colder months and some just fold for the EVGA bucks and do Boinc crunching the rest of the month. This new team might get more EVGA folders back in the fold as it were.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 11:32:54
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ipkha It'll be interesting to see how they progress. QRB will start for them soon enough if they got pass keys. Also, some of the EVGA crew were folding for Bjorn3d and may not have switched back yet. Others are more active in the colder months and some just fold for the EVGA bucks and do Boinc crunching the rest of the month. This new team might get more EVGA folders back in the fold as it were.
Maybe we should tell that team about EVGA Bucks!
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/03 23:52:47
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just throwing it out there since it was brought up, my rig pulls 350-400 watts from the wall, GPU only folding, monitor included. i pay just under $0.12/kwh, it doesnt add up to much for me. I am glad we have some competition again, we dont want to be getting bored, now do we ;)
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/04 06:52:59
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I just wanted to point out that they peaked on the first 09.01.16 129,306,554 12,037 When Yesterday, we posted what appears to be our largest single day (Non-stats system error) 09.03.16 145,969,727 5,566 And we may still increase our output over a day or two more if the usual monthly curve happens again. Just food for thought. d
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/04 08:09:32
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I'm not even playing right now, because I am away. My rig may be puny compared to my old rigs, but it still pumps out 1 mill ppd approximately. Quite frankly, I am very happy to see a large video produce (lol, not talking about his waist size) encouraging people to attack cancer through folding. Barnacles and Jayztwocents have a good bit of people that follow their videos and shenanigans, so I gladly welcome the powerhouse of points no matter how short lived it is.
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/07 05:49:34
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once the points finally updated (9/6)evga did 373,309,826 vs nerds 299,343,931 so ruffly 74m more in points
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Re: Folding @ EVGA is no longer #1 in production
2016/09/07 06:12:04
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un4givn85 just throwing it out there since it was brought up, my rig pulls 350-400 watts from the wall, GPU only folding, monitor included. i pay just under $0.12/kwh, it doesnt add up to much for me. I am glad we have some competition again, we dont want to be getting bored, now do we ;)
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