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2016/12/08 15:10:38 (permalink)
My computer will randomly freeze and it will say the card has stopped working and recovered and i cant determine why? Originally EVGA support had thought it may be my GPU so we got it replaced, however the issue still remains. I have monitored my temps and they are perfectly fine, while playing BF1 on ultra the GPU stays below 60c and the CPU around 50c. The computer only seems to have issues when playing games, not for any other tasks. It also is random i can go 5 minutes before it happens, or 5 hours, there is no warning. I have taken it to a computer store in town but frankly they couldn't find a solution. Solutions i have found on this site haven't helped so far. I have ran DDU and completely removed the driver and rolled back to older versions but still nothing. I have ensured the voltages are correct as well with an EVGA Tech. My current work around is bumping the TDR time and now it stutters but that is not a fix...any ideas this has been haunting me for the past few months. Thanks in advance!

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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/08 15:25:01 (permalink)
    Welcome to the Forums ThomasHolland
     
    Running Win 10 by chance ?
     
    What OS are you using, details please
     
    GPU Driver version ?
     
    Sound driver
     
    Issues in Device Manager?
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/08 16:05:56 (permalink)
    Oops, sorry!


    Yeah i'm using windows 10 Education, 64-bit
    Current GPU driver is 376.19.


    Not sure what you mean by sound driver, i have 
    High Definition Audio, Nvidia Virtual Audio Device (WDM), Realtek High Def, XSplit Stream Audio, and Yeti Stereo, however i only have my High Def one going through my monitor. All the others are not being used other than the Yeti for recording.

    As for issues i'm not seeing any :/



     
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/08 16:36:06 (permalink)
    Sometimes sound drivers (as listed in device manager, what you have loaded) conflict and can cause issues.
     
    Whether your MB has sound chip or dedicated sound card is installed, you should only use one set of sound drivers
     
    So, if you want to load the total Nvidia driver with all the different things like sound, then uninstall any other sound drivers that came with your PC
     
    OC software like MSI AfterBurner or EVGA Precision X, should be uninstalled first, then DDU drivers, then reinstall OC software - for best stability
     
    I run DDU, and custom install the EVGA / Nvidia drivers --- Only selecting PhysX and the actual GPU driver, none of the other "stuff" and select clean install. ( I do NOT load GeForce Experience software, Nvidia 3D drivers, Nvidia Sound )  I do not have speaker in my monitor, I use stand alone speaker.
     
    Did you try the steps listed here:  link
     
    http://forums.evga.com/Basic-troubleshooting-steps-Windows-clean-boot-clean-driver-install-debug-mode-etc-m2504606.aspx
     
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/08 20:07:36 (permalink)
    Try running the card in debug mode.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/09 14:36:41 (permalink)
    Trying the steps ill let you know how it goes!
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/16 20:42:27 (permalink)
    ThomasHolland i have the exact same issues.
    Did you solve your issue?

    I have tried like 20 different drivers, with clean installs.
    Ive pretty much done all the tutorials from youtube on how to optimize performance.
    I have reinstalled games so many times Ive lost count.
    There has been tweaking with graphics in game with no effect.
    And as of 2h ago I reinstalled windows 10 and formatted all my HD'S to see if the issue persists.... it does...

    I am at a loss here... anyone have a clue why Evga gtx 980 stutters and crashes.. is it a crap card?
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/17 08:49:14 (permalink)
    I had a similar issue with games stopping and my computer freezing. It turned out to be my virtual memory settings. Try Microsoft forums on how to increase it. I set mine to allow windows to pick the size used for virtual memory. No more issues after that. Hope this helps

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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/17 13:00:07 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Sometimes sound drivers (as listed in device manager, what you have loaded) conflict and can cause issues.
     
    Whether your MB has sound chip or dedicated sound card is installed, you should only use one set of sound drivers
     
    So, if you want to load the total Nvidia driver with all the different things like sound, then uninstall any other sound drivers that came with your PC
     
    OC software like MSI AfterBurner or EVGA Precision X, should be uninstalled first, then DDU drivers, then reinstall OC software - for best stability

    I run DDU, and custom install the EVGA / Nvidia drivers --- Only selecting PhysX and the actual GPU driver, none of the other "stuff" and select clean install. ( I do NOT load GeForce Experience software, Nvidia 3D drivers, Nvidia Sound )  I do not have speaker in my monitor, I use stand alone speaker.
     
    Did you try the steps listed here:  link
     
    http://forums.evga.com/Basic-troubleshooting-steps-Windows-clean-boot-clean-driver-install-debug-mode-etc-m2504606.aspx
     


     Tks for this post. I had crashes since i built my system a year ago. I unloaded my vc driver and loaded just the graphics portion nothing more
    and its seems to have fixed the issue. I guess it was a conflict with the hdmi sound part vs my on board sb sound chip on the mb.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/27 11:19:34 (permalink)
    So i followed all steps and it didn't work. I tried re-installing Windows 10 and t seemed to work for a few days then flared back up. Any other ideas? 
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/27 11:49:40 (permalink)
    IDK, those memory modules are not on the compatibility list for that motherboard: https://us.msi.com/Motherboard/support/X99A-GAMING-7.html#support-mem
    That doesn't mean that they won't work, it just means that MSI did not test them for compatibility. As I had suggested above, download and burn a ISO for Memtest86+ and see if it'll successfully run without giving any errors to see if there is any problem with the RAM: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/14201-memtest86-test-ram.html
    Some users are having issues with later versions of Windows 10 also. If you install a fresh copy and things are working fine then copy the version number and see if Windows 10 is upgrading itself to a newer build that is causing you the problems.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/27 11:56:22 (permalink)
    Running what version of Win 10 ?  anniversary 1607 ?
     
    If so do this LINK
    pcgamesn.com/how-to-turn-off-gamedvr-windows-10
     
    Are you running Nvidia Experience ?
     
    If so, DDU (default settings, safe mode with reboot) then install newest driver, custom install option, GPU driver and Physx ONLY, choose Clean Install

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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/27 12:38:43 (permalink)
    Are you running your RAM in XMP mode inside the BIOS? If so, please disable XMP and set your RAM manually inside the BIOS. The frequency, timings & voltage set inside the BIOS should match the JEDEC stickers on the sides of your RAM modules...
     

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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/27 16:26:10 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Running what version of Win 10 ?  anniversary 1607 ?
     
    If so do this
    pcgamesn.com/how-to-turn-off-gamedvr-windows-10
     
    Are you running Nvidia Experience ?
     
    If so, DDU (default settings, safe mode with reboot) then install newest driver, custom install option, GPU driver and Physx ONLY, choose Clean Install


     I am running windows 10 and yes its 1607 i will try turning off game dvr.
     
    I have already used DDU and clean installed without Experience and with. Both still produced the error. I will see if turning off the gamedvr works. 

    , i will run the memory test at the end of the night that way i can get multiple passes and check it in the morning.


    Thanks for your help guys ill keep you posted!
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/27 16:37:42 (permalink)
    You can check Window Event Viewer for critical system errors as well. TDR is often software related, so maybe windows can see what is going on behind the scenes.
     
    You might want to hop in BIOS to check the voltage rails on your PSU to make sure they are steady and +/-5% of target to rule that out since it only takes a minute. It's not gonna give you a ton of info, but if you're seeing issues there you can bet they're not going to get better under load 
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 14:23:58 (permalink)
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    IDK, those memory modules are not on the compatibility list for that motherboard:
    That doesn't mean that they won't work, it just means that MSI did not test them for compatibility. As I had suggested above, download and burn a ISO for Memtest86+ and see if it'll successfully run without giving any errors to see if there is any problem with the RAM:
    Some users are having issues with later versions of Windows 10 also. If you install a fresh copy and things are working fine then copy the version number and see if Windows 10 is upgrading itself to a newer build that is causing you the problems.


    So i ran memtest over night and it completed with no errors.  I also checked voltage rails as Tech_Garrett suggested and they are staying steady. I will try DDU one more time and cross my fingers.  Also my ram is not running in XMP mode.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 14:25:12 (permalink)
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    Also my ram is not running in XMP mode.

    So you have your ram setup manually to the correct specs or are you just running them at default bios settings?
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 15:09:31 (permalink)

    So you have your ram setup manually to the correct specs or are you just running them at default bios settings?




    I just set them manually in BIOS, previously i was just running them at default. Here are the images, not to familiar with editing frequencies in BIOS so hopefully i did it correct.
     

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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 17:14:11 (permalink)
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    Also my ram is not running in XMP mode.

    So you have your ram setup manually to the correct specs or are you just running them at default bios settings?




    So after adjusting it in bios, it still crashed. In event viewer the error was just "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered."
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 17:16:04 (permalink)
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    Also my ram is not running in XMP mode.

    So you have your ram setup manually to the correct specs or are you just running them at default bios settings?




    So after adjusting it in bios, it still crashed. In event viewer the error was just "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered."


    Did you try underclocking the card fully on both the core & memory using msi afterburner?
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 17:42:49 (permalink)
     
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    Also my ram is not running in XMP mode.

    So you have your ram setup manually to the correct specs or are you just running them at default bios settings?




    So after adjusting it in bios, it still crashed. In event viewer the error was just "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered."


    Did you try underclocking the card fully on both the core & memory using msi afterburner?


    Trying that right now, i have gone as low as both will go. What impact does it have, out of curiosity?
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 18:09:17 (permalink)
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    Trying that right now, i have gone as low as both will go. What impact does it have, out of curiosity?

    Reduced performance while gaming. Running the card fully underclocked should bring the card back into stability if the factory overclock is unstable. 
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 20:42:18 (permalink)
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    Trying that right now, i have gone as low as both will go. What impact does it have, out of curiosity?

    Reduced performance while gaming. Running the card fully underclocked should bring the card back into stability if the factory overclock is unstable. 


    I didnt think the acx 2.0 came overclocked? It seems to be working so far, haven't got to test it extensively. I had RMA'd the card and got it replaced not to long ago so Im not sure why i cant run it at the normal speeds. 
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/28 20:44:53 (permalink)
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    Trying that right now, i have gone as low as both will go. What impact does it have, out of curiosity?

    Reduced performance while gaming. Running the card fully underclocked should bring the card back into stability if the factory overclock is unstable. 


    I didnt think the acx 2.0 came overclocked? It seems to be working so far, haven't got to test it extensively. I had RMA'd the card and got it replaced not to long ago so Im not sure why i cant run it at the normal speeds. 


    The classified cards always come with a factory overclock applied.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/29 11:48:38 (permalink)
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    I didnt think the acx 2.0 came overclocked? It seems to be working so far, haven't got to test it extensively. I had RMA'd the card and got it replaced not to long ago so Im not sure why i cant run it at the normal speeds. 


    When a defective video board is returned for repair, the technicians will perform some tests, check voltages and different signals for strength, continuity and being within spec. The defective component is isolated and replaced. The board is then tested and recertified. There can always be another component on the verge of failure that isn't found during the initial testing that will fail under normal useage in a customer's PC at a later date. Nothing to worry about really. These are static sensitive products and these things happen. It might be time to apply for an RMA replacement again. If it is, just keep your fingers crossed and hope you get a real workhorse this time.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/29 12:51:43 (permalink)
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    I didnt think the acx 2.0 came overclocked? It seems to be working so far, haven't got to test it extensively. I had RMA'd the card and got it replaced not to long ago so Im not sure why i cant run it at the normal speeds. 


    When a defective video board is returned for repair, the technicians will perform some tests, check voltages and different signals for strength, continuity and being within spec. The defective component is isolated and replaced. The board is then tested and recertified. There can always be another component on the verge of failure that isn't found during the initial testing that will fail under normal useage in a customer's PC at a later date. Nothing to worry about really. These are static sensitive products and these things happen. It might be time to apply for an RMA replacement again. If it is, just keep your fingers crossed and hope you get a real workhorse this time.




    The only reason i was curious if it was possibly other hardware is because it happened with other cards too.  I have two 980s (only one in the system since the crashing started) but both have the same error. So far no crashing with the under-clocking but i will have time to actually push the system later tonight and test more.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/29 14:13:37 (permalink)
    That sheds some new light on the situation. I was not aware that this issue was also present with other video boards as well. There is a BIOS setting that controls the compatibility of your PCI-E lanes. It should have different options such as Gen 1, Gen 2, Gen 3 or Auto. I have seen this setting cause problems for other users. Sometimes you'll need to run in Gen 2 even if your video boards and motherboard support Gen 3. I always manually set mine to Gen 3 and never had any problems. I am always certain to make sure it is never left on 'Auto'.
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/29 14:33:44 (permalink)
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    I didnt think the acx 2.0 came overclocked? It seems to be working so far, haven't got to test it extensively. I had RMA'd the card and got it replaced not to long ago so Im not sure why i cant run it at the normal speeds. 


    When a defective video board is returned for repair, the technicians will perform some tests, check voltages and different signals for strength, continuity and being within spec. The defective component is isolated and replaced. The board is then tested and recertified. There can always be another component on the verge of failure that isn't found during the initial testing that will fail under normal useage in a customer's PC at a later date. Nothing to worry about really. These are static sensitive products and these things happen. It might be time to apply for an RMA replacement again. If it is, just keep your fingers crossed and hope you get a real workhorse this time.




    The only reason i was curious if it was possibly other hardware is because it happened with other cards too.  I have two 980s (only one in the system since the crashing started) but both have the same error. So far no crashing with the under-clocking but i will have time to actually push the system later tonight and test more.


    Report back as soon as you can. Does this issue happen in multiple games or is it just BF1?
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    Re: Graphic card keeps crashing (GTX 980) 2016/12/29 15:03:43 (permalink)
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    I didnt think the acx 2.0 came overclocked? It seems to be working so far, haven't got to test it extensively. I had RMA'd the card and got it replaced not to long ago so Im not sure why i cant run it at the normal speeds. 


    When a defective video board is returned for repair, the technicians will perform some tests, check voltages and different signals for strength, continuity and being within spec. The defective component is isolated and replaced. The board is then tested and recertified. There can always be another component on the verge of failure that isn't found during the initial testing that will fail under normal useage in a customer's PC at a later date. Nothing to worry about really. These are static sensitive products and these things happen. It might be time to apply for an RMA replacement again. If it is, just keep your fingers crossed and hope you get a real workhorse this time.




    The only reason i was curious if it was possibly other hardware is because it happened with other cards too.  I have two 980s (only one in the system since the crashing started) but both have the same error. So far no crashing with the under-clocking but i will have time to actually push the system later tonight and test more.


    Report back as soon as you can. Does this issue happen in multiple games or is it just BF1?


    Mostly it seems in GPU intensive games. If i play a game such as league its not as frequent maybe 1 every 10-20 times. Sometimes none.
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