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Looking for advice and/or recommendations on what Intel platform I should upgrade to for gaming. I am currently using an Intel Core i7-950 (Bloomfield) CPU based on the EVGA Classified E760 X58 LGA1366 platform. I'm not necessarily looking for bleeding edge tech, but I am trying to find the point of diminishing returns where throwing more money at a platform is only going to net you incremental performance increases.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/11/17 10:32:06
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you could drop in a 6 core 32nm chip and play around a little bit, if your board is rev 1.1 if not it'll need to be modified (easy solder points) the X5650 uses a 20x the W 3680&90 have unlocked multipliers or anything in the 1151 socket will be fun..
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/11/17 23:50:21
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garetjax Looking for advice and/or recommendations on what Intel platform I should upgrade to for gaming. I am currently using an Intel Core i7-950 (Bloomfield) CPU based on the EVGA Classified E760 X58 LGA1366 platform.
I'm not necessarily looking for bleeding edge tech, but I am trying to find the point of diminishing returns where throwing more money at a platform is only going to net you incremental performance increases.
While X58 was a phenomenally good platform, it's getting a bit long in the tooth now. The Z97 platform is great, although it's a couple of years old now but certainly still more than adequate today and a significant step up from what you have now. Unless you're doing extensive video editing / photoshop / folding, there's probably no need to go more than 4 cores, so X99 platform is likely pointless for you. Z170 is the latest platform and even that has been out for a while now, although if you want to wait a little bit, the Kaby Lake processors are due to be released very soon, and I believe that will still use the Z170 platform (although presumably will need a bios update) so you'll be set for quite a few years easily, but you said you're not necessarily looking for bleeding edge, so... I tried the Z170 and had a few issues with some drivers because I was wanting to stay on Windows 7, and I had no real need to go X99 6-core, so I ended up going from X79 Dark to the Z97 Classified about a year ago, and I am very happy with it and I will very likely stay on this platform until at least Cannonlake in the 2nd half of 2017. Depends on your budget really. Based on my own experience, and if budget is a consideration, I'd recommend going for the EVGA Z97 Classified, and an i7-4790k if you want good out-of-the-box speed (4.4GHz). If money isn't an issue, go straight for the Z170 Classy K new, and a top of the line CPU. Alternatively, once Kaby Lake comes out, you'll probably see a few good deals for a used Z170 board and CPU going in the For Sale section of the site [ link], so keep an eye out... I wouldn't buy through EBay though - notorious for being ripped off with tech there. Let us know what you end up doing!
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/11/18 08:24:50
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garetjax Looking for advice and/or recommendations on what Intel platform I should upgrade to for gaming. I am currently using an Intel Core i7-950 (Bloomfield) CPU based on the EVGA Classified E760 X58 LGA1366 platform.
I'm not necessarily looking for bleeding edge tech, but I am trying to find the point of diminishing returns where throwing more money at a platform is only going to net you incremental performance increases.
While X58 was a phenomenally good platform, it's getting a bit long in the tooth now. The Z97 platform is great, although it's a couple of years old now but certainly still more than adequate today and a significant step up from what you have now. Unless you're doing extensive video editing / photoshop / folding, there's probably no need to go more than 4 cores, so X99 platform is likely pointless for you. Z170 is the latest platform and even that has been out for a while now, although if you want to wait a little bit, the Kaby Lake processors are due to be released very soon, and I believe that will still use the Z170 platform (although presumably will need a bios update) so you'll be set for quite a few years easily, but you said you're not necessarily looking for bleeding edge, so... I tried the Z170 and had a few issues with some drivers because I was wanting to stay on Windows 7, and I had no real need to go X99 6-core, so I ended up going from X79 Dark to the Z97 Classified about a year ago, and I am very happy with it and I will very likely stay on this platform until at least Cannonlake in the 2nd half of 2017. Depends on your budget really. Based on my own experience, and if budget is a consideration, I'd recommend going for the EVGA Z97 Classified, and an i7-4790k if you want good out-of-the-box speed (4.4GHz). If money isn't an issue, go straight for the Z170 Classy K new, and a top of the line CPU. Alternatively, once Kaby Lake comes out, you'll probably see a few good deals for a used Z170 board and CPU going in the For Sale section of the site [link], so keep an eye out... I wouldn't buy through EBay though - notorious for being ripped off with tech there. Let us know what you end up doing!
+1 what nereus said z97 classified 4790k are rock solid performers good luck.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/11/18 14:31:13
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Either get a 6 Core Xeon or go 1151
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/11/20 12:01:05
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I have an X79 board with an Xeon E5-1620 CPU in it which I got for like 25$. I can probably upgrade to some 6 core V2 Xeon in the future for cheap. I recommend the X79 platform it is still enough for gaming.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/11/24 16:20:17
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Thank you all for the replies. Sounds like we are on the cusp of the impending release of Kaby Lake in 2017, so maybe upgrading right now wouldn't be the best idea. That being said, I am running two EVGA GTX 780Ti Classified Kingpins in SLI and would like to know how well they would fare against the GTX 1080. Since I will wait to upgrade my other components, is it time to upgrade my SLI graphics to the GTX 1000 series, or do you think I am I still good for now?
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/01 15:04:02
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do you struggle to play any of your current games? If not your fine
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/01 20:43:02
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Might as well get the newest possible equipment if going through the process of a major upgrade and be set for a long while.
I have just gone from Z68 to X99
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/13 00:46:08
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Buy a cheapo x79 mobo and a used E5-2680 eight core for the cheap (I bought two of them!) and you are ready to go! Sandy bridge old tech FTW!
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/16 00:05:26
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Going from the same board and CPU myself, it has served me very well
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/17 07:34:36
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I'd at least wait and see what AMD Ryzen has to offer.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/17 10:32:41
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GloR1ouS_ I'd at least wait and see what AMD Ryzen has to offer.
What AMD could offer for 500$... i7-6900K performance? I don't believe. Only logic investment after X58 is X99. i7-6800K for single card, i7-6850K for SLI, ASUS X99 Strix, 32 GB DDR4 on 3200MHz and than set max as your IMC allow you. i7-6580K cost 520$... Overclocked give same performance as i7-6900K and even if AMD catch same speed but I doubt you will know that you didn't made mistake. Actually you can get same performance even for 380$ from i7-6800K only depend do you want SLI x16. If you push Intel Broadwell-EX more to 4.4 GHz or similar you will get same performance as i7-6900K on Turbo Speed, maybe even on less clock I didn't checked exactly performance. AMD lose so much credibility that now even if they launch excellent processor people will be sceptic... Somehow with Intel always is situation clear and normal people don't want to change that. Depend how you look... If you look youtube clips from Russian fanatics you will think that's first super power, every month they build new futuristic 3D super weapon unseen on planet, money is not problem for them, everybody scare from them. Their planes are without doubt best and than when situation become clear you see that they almost didn't have money to finish Pak-Fa project and India give them 1/3 of total price for development and want 150 of 400 planes and they shocked because Russian didn't give them what they promise and demand improvements on plane... Without India they would finish him 2025-2030 after they save more money using from schools, hospitals, and other institutions where people have problem unseen on planet. Same is with AMD, if we read topics AMD is before launch of processor even better 2% than most powerfull Intel, but at the moment AMD power is FX8350 and we don't know nothing any more. People from one video, some simulation where you can only look on screen conclude that AMD is again most powerfull player. People are weird.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/17 12:51:03
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garetjax Thank you all for the replies. Sounds like we are on the cusp of the impending release of Kaby Lake in 2017, so maybe upgrading right now wouldn't be the best idea. That being said, I am running two EVGA GTX 780Ti Classified Kingpins in SLI and would like to know how well they would fare against the GTX 1080. Since I will wait to upgrade my other components, is it time to upgrade my SLI graphics to the GTX 1000 series, or do you think I am I still good for now?
Depends which games you are playing - some games don't support SLI at all, and a good percentage support SLI but the implementation is sloppy at best. Also, SLI support is being pushed more on to the developers now, so future games may not even bother to support SLI - it's a significant amount of extra expense for them to cater to a relatively small number of users, and where profit margins are tight and highly competitive, guess what the result will be in future; minimal or no SLI support at all. With that in mind, a single vanilla 1080 will beat the crap out of a single 780Ti any day of the week, and in many games will even beat SLI 780Ti because of poor SLI support. Same if you go to higher resolution monitor - particularly 4k. Personally I'd go single 1080, but wait and see if the 1080Ti actually happens, rumored to be announced very early 2017. Better yet, if you can afford a Titan X(Pascal), go for it, the card seriously beats the hell out of anything else, reportedly even scoring better than SLI-980Ti in some benchmarks. Oh, and SLI and DX12 don't play well together either, so I hear.
post edited by Nereus - 2016/12/17 13:17:31
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/17 14:25:54
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x99 will be the leader in performance the longest if you want to upgrade right now. More options also.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/17 15:29:08
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Shockjockey x99 will be the leader in performance the longest if you want to upgrade right now. More options also.
Yeah X99 are classed as extreme, and Z170 / Z270 classed as performance, but again it depends if you need all those additional cores (outside of benchmarking). Kaby Lake supposedly releasing early 2017, Cannon Lake in 2H 2017 ...actually probably best to wait a couple of weeks for CES 2017 (January 5-8, 2017) - Intel should be making things a bit clearer then, and NVidia are rumored to be announcing the 1080Ti as well, should help clarify things.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/24 18:23:36
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Your 780 Ti has 3 GB Ram - that is a limiting factor for these power hungry GPUs 1070 is the value play and 1080 if more power is what you like. You will also use less power and generate less heat with the 10 series. My 980 SC was as fast or faster than my 780 Kingpins - single GPU or 2-way SLI. The 4 GB RAM helped more than the lower power demand. As others have mentioned Z97 and an i7-4790k - is a good combo, plenty of OC headroom. It was not night/day better than my X58 though the newer chipset has nice features. Budget and the resolution you will play at, along with the games you like are important considerations. Your Mods Rig build looks out of date - if you are not running a SSD as your main boot drive, your missing real daily power - you can see and feel the speed. GeForce GTX 780 Ti vs 1080 LINK http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-780-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-1080
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/24 19:10:23
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I would wait for Zen regardless if you are sticking with Intel... I'm positive there will be some price drops.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/25 05:29:31
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What Nereus had to say was some solid information. Honestly I wouldn't even worry about what's coming out in 2017... Intel all ready announced that Moore's law is finally at an end and we won't be seeing major increases in performance per clock when newer CPU's come out. The next generation's major thing is power efficiency. Z87/Z97 chipset is great, but DDR3 memory prices are up right now... So it makes the choice to go Z170 a little easier. I'd recommend a i7 6700K and Z170 board... You will have a solid platform for years.
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Re: Moving on from Intel LGA1366 / Core i7-950 - Recommendations?
2016/12/25 09:09:05
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Good review LINK legitreviews.com/evga-geforce-gtx-1080-sc-gaming-acx-3-0-video-card-review_183371
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