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Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k

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2016/09/23 15:20:38 (permalink)
 Ok, so I did a price check on what these 980's are worth (not surprisingly, not a whole heap of cash) and decided since they are only 2yr olds, they were going under water. I purchased EK classy blocks and a triple serial connector, now they are just waiting to be put in the/a loop. The i7 (OC to 4.6 @ 1.26v) is on water already in its own loop with a XSPC 240 and 120 radiator. The Classies are not OC'd at this time, but will be slightly when they are on water. I already have several other radiators on hand (all XSPC) 280, 360 and a 140. The case is a Corsair Graphite series 780T and can accommodate a 360 or a 280 in the front, 360 or 280 in the top,  120 or 240 in the bottom and a 120 or 140 in the rear.
So, with that said and the available parts I have:
Which radiator combination shall I use?
Single loop or Double loop?
I am going to attempt rigid tubing on this one, if that fails I'll go with hose (not wanting to but it is what it is)
 
TL;DR
3 Classies and an OC'd i7 4790k, out of the selection of radiators I have on hand best combination  (120, 140, 240, 280, 360)
Single or Dual loop
Maximum cooling minimum fan noise
 
 
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/23 15:53:18 (permalink)
    They say one 120mm Rad Fan Per Block so you should go no less than 4x120 or a 3x120x54 on top and a 2x120x54 in the front.
     
    For the Top:
     
     $84.99 Radiator, 3x120mm Fans, 54mm Thick, 30-FPI Copper Push or Pull
    OR
     
    Almost 30mm Thick 
      $59.99 Radiator, 3x120mm 30-FPI Copper Push & Pull
     
     
    For the Front:
    $66.99 Radiator, 2x120mm Fans, 54mm Thick, 30-FPI Copper Push or Pull
     
    Almost 30mm Thick
    $49.99 Radiator, 2x120mm 30-FPI Copper Push & Pull

     
    Myself I do Duel Loops one for the CPU/MB and one for the GPUs.
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/23 16:02:08 (permalink)
    Rule of thumb says one 120mm radiator space for each component + 1 extra unit
     
    You have 3 GPU + 1 CPU = 4 units +1 extra = 5 x 120 = recommended radiator 360 & 240 
     
     
    How thick are your rads ?
     
    What fans are you going to use ?
     
    Single loop is fine if your pump is good.
     
    Dual loop is mostly for show, large systems and extreem OC.
     
    I'm running single loop with 2 alphacool 45mm x 360mm with one D5 pump.  This is for my dual EVGA Titan X SC with OC 4790K. 
     
    I'm Folding 90% - 99% GPU running 24 x 7 temps at 39 - 40 C in a room 25 C (77F)
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/23 16:20:47 (permalink)
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    Rule of thumb says one 120mm radiator space for each component + 1 extra unit
     
    You have 3 GPU + 1 CPU = 4 units +1 extra = 5 x 120 = recommended radiator 360 & 240 
     
     
     
     
    How thick are your rads ?
     
    What fans are you going to use ?
     
     
    Single loop is fine if your pump is good.



    How thick are your rads ? 
    All of the ones I have on hand are 35.5mm  Radiator/s (all are the same thickness)
     
    What fans are you going to use ? 

    I have Noctua NF-F12's 3000 PWM AND Noctua NF-A14 2000 PWM
     
    Single loop is fine if your pump is good
     
    I currently have a XSPC Photon 170 Tube Glass Cylinder Reservoir / Pump Combo (DDC -1T Plus 3.2) along with another reservoir.
    I think I'm going set up dual loops, pending plumbing nightmare. Single would be nice (least expensive anyway) I don't believe this pump would handle all of this.
     
    @bcavnaugh:
    I'm trying to get use out of what I currently have on hand (not saying I can't change for something else) just trying to save some cash. Besides the radiators  on the CPU the others are NIB (I have had them for a long long time was going to water my folding machines, that's another story in itself) I'm also not sure I can squeeze in a 54mm and keep everything in the case, I had previous external radiators and they turned out to be a pain in the rear.
     
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/23 16:44:38 (permalink)
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/23 16:47:58 (permalink)
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/23 18:01:49 (permalink)
    Tag your it
     
    Post and go back and proof
     
    and go back and add more ...........

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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/29 16:54:20 (permalink)
    Various items ordered and coming in slowly.............going to be a slow build it's looking like. Running out of fun money   Getting my old W/C PC out of mothballs up and running.


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/29 20:40:52 (permalink)
    yep, it does add up quickly, making a custom loop

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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/09/30 03:29:24 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    yep, it does add up quickly, making a custom loop


    I agree, although it was expected. (I got the bug again to WC the whole loop, It's a sickness) Even though I have most items "in stock" in my parts selection in boxes. I purchased a fan controller (PWM) since running off the MOBO header/s makes the fans (2 on a 240 for the CPU/ 1 fan/ PWM header)  ramp up and down randomly for no apparent reason. Fittings............enough said there.....new pin tools for connections for sleeving wiring not sleeved....(have some can't find them)
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/02 11:01:20 (permalink)
    That is the worst; you know you have the tool; but, it is just MIA
     
    Just updated my loop with some EK Vardar fans they move much more air, they are nice improvement over my entry level Swiftech 120s

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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/02 18:35:25 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    That is the worst; you know you have the tool; but, it is just MIA
     
    Just updated my loop with some EK Vardar fans they move much more air, they are nice improvement over my entry level Swiftech 120s


    I have some other tools that I use for work so it's no biggie, although I agree it is the worst. I have so much "extra" stuff in boxes since I forget I have it (it's in that place where I put it so I don't forget it) then buy new and find the old.......  I purchased 2 of the Corsair ML 120's to see if they are any "better" than the Noctua fans I already have. Figured out I have to get a molex extension for the fan controller and a USB 2.0 header splitter also. It's coming together slowly, when all the parts are here I'll swap out this P/C with my old one and build away!! 


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/03 00:50:15 (permalink)
     
    Show us your handy work with lots of pictures. We like pictures. You could post a mods rig thread if you wanted. Have fun building, that's the best par, I think.
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/03 09:10:38 (permalink)
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    Show us your handy work with lots of pictures. We like pictures. You could post a mods rig thread if you wanted. Have fun building, that's the best par, I think.


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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/03 09:29:16 (permalink)
    I agree with everything said here. Dual loop is mostly for show or just if you have the room like I do. I ran this same hardware in a single loop and the extended full load temps differences were 5-10c in most situations. So unless your really trying to push the max clocks its negligible. 
     
    DDC pumps usually have a higher head pressure then D5's and the one you have should be fine if you go single unless you have a ton of tight bends, 90's or really restirctive blocks on something.
     
    I generally will just fit the most amount if radiator I can even when i dont think its needed. Especially if you have them on hand. This will help reduce the peak temps after the loop temp equalizes under load. 
     
     
     
     

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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/03 16:47:54 (permalink)
    I will attempt to take pictures as I go...... I usually forget since I am concentrating on getting everything done. I know it won't hold a candle to the rigs you see in the mod section, but I'll try!!!.
     
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    I am going a single loop as was suggested, by yourself and others. As well as stuffing as many radiators I can in the case too.   cheaped out on a dual loop anyway because I didn't want to buy another pump/ res since a combo is the only way due to only 2/ 5.25 drives that are already spoken for. (yes I am a hold out with DVD drives) one fan controller and a DVD. The rig as it sits now needs a MAJOR clean out of dust!!!! So I will tear it down to bare bones and go from there.....more parts arrived today but I am nowhere near starting this project until I get the other out of mothballs.
     


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/05 15:08:48 (permalink)
    WHAT IN THE WORLD IS UP WITH PUTTING PHOTOS IN A THREAD???????
     
    A few photos so you know I'm not full of hot air.............
     
    See photos below------Blocks
     
    And because I wanted to see it in action I hooked up my fan controller: Aquaero 6 PRO
    Figuring out how to use the software and set fan ramping and such.......

    (numbers for fan % were switching when taking the photo, thus why it looks poor)
     
    See photos below--- Temp Sensors
     
     Software sensors are on the MOBO (using OHM/hardware monitoring software) , there are also plug ins for 8 other temperature sensors
     
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/05 15:14:56 (permalink)
    Do you think this would support Koolance Products?
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/05 15:24:03 (permalink)
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    Do you think this would support Koolance Products?




    I am not really sure to be honest, I know they have their own flow sensors and a pump designed for this system. As far as fans it will control any of them, PWM or voltage. It does all sorts of things, you change the labels that are displayed. I just hooked it up and was playing around getting used to it.....fumbling around the software and mashing buttons at this point.
     
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/13 10:02:06 (permalink)
    If you are already using the aquareo i would stick to Aquacomputer products. They are super simple to use with the aquasuite software giving you all kind of options and full control of everything. I use it ajust my fans according to water temperature and safe data to an excelfile. You can even upload a customized .bmp to use as startup screen in the Aquaero. The remote control is a nice gadget, too.
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    Re: Radiator needs for 3x 980 Classies and i7 4790k 2016/10/13 16:57:14 (permalink)
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    If you are already using the aquareo i would stick to Aquacomputer products. They are super simple to use with the aquasuite software giving you all kind of options and full control of everything. I use it ajust my fans according to water temperature and safe data to an excelfile. You can even upload a customized .bmp to use as startup screen in the Aquaero. The remote control is a nice gadget, too.



    I have been getting more of the pieces from Aquacomputer, still putting it together though. I agree about the control, this thing will do more than I will use and actually more than I expected. The software at first was a little overwhelming but I have it figured out for the most part. Well, lets say figured out for now for actually controlling fans and such. It's not completely installed since I still have to build my loop, I got side tracked on another P/C project and will then finish this system. 


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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