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2016/08/18 00:01:26 (permalink)
Hello.
I am thinking about getting an all in one watercooling setup for my titan x.
Are these EVGA ones even still available to purchase?
If not, what are some alternatives?
I have seen the Corsiar one, but am not sure if it will work with my old H70 radiator (the round one, not the new square block ones), or if it can even handle the heat of a titan x.
Are there any other 'kits' out there available?
I only have 1 120/140mm fan outlet left on my case, as the 2 top ones are already in use with the corsair H110i CPU cooler all in one kit.
I cant fit a cutom loop into my system.
So, my only alternative is an all in one kit with a single 120/140mm radiator and fan.
(I really would rather have the EVGA one, but they seem to have sold out in like a week after they announced them, sigh).
 
Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/18 16:59:48 (permalink)
    NZXT has one that should work (designed for those round Asetek pumps):  www.nzxt.com/products/kraken-g10-white
     
    If you want to go custom:  www.overclock.net/t/1501480/the-artisan-store-new-products-order-form
     
    Good guide on your options here:  www.overclock.net/t/1479716/guide-closed-loop-aio-coolers-on-your-gpu-warning-picture-heavy
     
    post edited by m0demb0y - 2016/08/18 17:03:11
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/18 18:11:14 (permalink)
    Your looking for this
    400-HY-0990-B1
    EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X HYBRID
     
    Tiger Link
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9849173
     
     
    LINK
     
    LINK2
     
     

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/18 23:33:16 (permalink)
    Cool GTX
    Your looking for this
    400-HY-0990-B1
    EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN X HYBRID
     
    Tiger Link
    http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9849173
     
     
    LINK
     
    LINK2
     
     




    Thanks.
    That 'Link' is the one I listed, and it goes to evga page that does NOT have the water cooling kit.
    That Tiger Direct link looks like it has the one I want (EVGA hybrid cooling kit), but I have dealt with TD in the past and they take your money even though they dont have the product in-stock, and its a hard time getting your money back. I will contact them directly before buying though, so thank you very much!
    EDIT: Yep, not in stock, just like I thought:
    Shipping: Temporarily out of stock.
     
    @Modemboy
    I have the Corsair H50 or H70, which I believe is built off of the NZXT ? The first H50 and H70 iirc are the exact same things as the NZXT AIO's. I wonder if my H70 will work with it, and also if it still has enough water/fluid in it to still work (its about 5 years old I think? dont these only last 3 years, the fluid?). Edit: Corsair : H105, H110, H90, H75, H55 , H50 compatibility. (I have one or the other, H50 or H70, I dont know which one it is, since I gave 1 away and threw the other in a box, so dont know. Dang. Contacted Kraken to see why only the H50 is listed and not the H70, since they are identicle as far as I could tell).
    Anyway, thank you both very much!
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/19 03:03:58 (permalink)
    The Kraken G10 would work with a H50 or 70 if the CPU mount has little tabs on it like the H55 does, and like the Kraken AIOs have.

    Mods rigs to the left has my Kraken G10 and Kraken X41 setup. The X41 with its thicker and larger 140mm radiator cools about 10C cooler than the old H55 that I had. Both have/had 105CFM high static pressure eLoop fans, H55 had 120mm, X41 has 140mm both in push/pull.

    Edit: looks like both the H70 and H50 should work based off of their photos on Corsair's website. Corsair warranties their AIOs for 5 years, so no the fluid shouldn't wear out in 3. Kraken warranties theirs for 6, and their tubes are longer which makes for a better GPU cooling solution.
    post edited by arestavo - 2016/08/19 03:12:04
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/20 12:52:06 (permalink)
    Yeah, the H50 has those tabs, but they dont go all the way through like the H55 does, they are kind of walled in, except the top of the tabs. IE: you cant stick something all the way through them.
     
    So, which one do you think is better?
    It looks like the Corsair sink hits the memory, where the Kraken doesnt. It also will expell the heat out the back, like my Titan does.
    The Kraken doesnt look like it sinks the memory, and also dumps heat INTO the case. But, the Kraken looks like you can put any fan in, and may even cool the memory better if you have a high cfm fan.
    The Kraken or the Corsair?
    http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-series-hg10-n980-gpu-liquid-cooling-bracket
    https://www.nzxt.com/products/kraken-g10-white
     

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/20 14:10:25 (permalink)
    Meh, nevermind.
    The Corsair is the better one, the Kraken doesnt cool the VRM.
     
    But, I see EVGA is going to be selling the Titan X Hybrids on amazon, new stock coming in:
    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Cooling-Graphics-12G-P4-1999-KR/dp/B00YDAYMIE
    In stock on August 26, 2016.
     
    So, maybe they (EVGA) will also have the water kits available?

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/20 14:16:16 (permalink)
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    Meh, nevermind.
    The Corsair is the better one, the Kraken doesnt cool the VRM.
     
    But, I see EVGA is going to be selling the Titan X Hybrids on amazon, new stock coming in:
    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Cooling-Graphics-12G-P4-1999-KR/dp/B00YDAYMIE
    In stock on August 26, 2016.
     
    So, maybe they (EVGA) will also have the water kits available?




    Heh, you know that's the Titan XM not the new Titan XP right? $1700 my backside!
     
    Stupid Nvidia not changing the name and confusing folks who don't know the actual chip specs. And if it wasn't confusing to you, just know that $1700 is $500 more than what the new Titan XP (which is roughly 30 to 50% faster) sells for - so, it's a total ripoff.
     
    Also, EVGA cannot and is not planning to sell the Titan XP (because Nvidia isn't allowing them). But EVGA is supposedly developing a Hybrid add on kit (which doesn't include the GPU).
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/20 14:40:30 (permalink)
    Well, I just called EVGA sales, and they said the 980TI Superclocked water cooler is compatible with the titan x, and Amazon had '1 New', so I bought it.
    :)
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/23 00:56:42 (permalink)
    Well, just got an update from Amazon.
    They said 2 day shipping, and that it was in-stock when I bought it. Which to me meant they had it physicaly in stock, and I would have it by Wednesday at the latest.
    Now the page says 1-4 weeks for delivery.
    I got my card today, and didnt want to put it in w/o the water cooling on it first. I could wait a few days fine, no problem.
    Now, I have to wait a week to a month?
    I am already missing the 12gb memory of the Titan x. I have had to turn down most games to medium settings, instead of high and ultra (or a mix of the 2), with my old card in until the titan came.
    Well, its here now, but I still dont want to put it in until the water cooling comes. :(
     
    Anyway, I just want to say, Amazon has for the last year or so, become liars basically. This is the 5th or 6th order that said they had an item in stock, and I didnt recieve it until at least 3 to a month weeks later.
    I may go back to Newegg, as they at least say wether it comes from within the usa or outside the usa.
    :(
     
    Frustrated.
     
    Would you use the card for a month NOT on water?
    Or would you wait until the water cooler came to put the card in?

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/23 09:05:36 (permalink)
    I would install that bad boy and get a baseline on air so that I'd know precisely the benefits picked up by adding plumbing to the config.
     
    I just had something of the same experience with Amazon but honestly, I fault myself for adding the last 980Ti card in stock (at a great price) from one of their 3rd party sources to my cart and then taking hours to check out.  I can't blame the origin seller or Amazon for my own tardiness.  Not at all saying that's what happened in your case; just that I feel your frustration bro.
     
    If it were me, I'd plug in and game on until the water shows up and then study/realize the difference & benefit.

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/23 17:16:16 (permalink)
    I already had a Titan X before, it bit the dust.
    This is an RMA replacement for it that just came yesterday.
    I already know temps and everything for a stock card, as I had it for a year.
     
    I am just not sure that I want to put it in and run it on air, seeing as how the old card died on air, and with the new nvidia drivers seeming to kill cards and not running fans (although it sounds like the new 372.54 drivers seem to be working with the 900 series cards now).
    I would rather have it on water 1st time I run it.
    But, then again, what if the card is bad? What if it doesnt work at all? Then I would have wasted a few weeks.
    Sigh.
    Not sure what to do.
     
    Also, I have a bad back and neck, and trying to put it in, then have to take it out, then put it in again.....
    Sigh.
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/23 17:42:36 (permalink)
    Dave3d
    I already had a Titan X before, it bit the dust.
    This is an RMA replacement for it that just came yesterday.
    I already know temps and everything for a stock card, as I had it for a year.
     
    I am just not sure that I want to put it in and run it on air, seeing as how the old card died on air, and with the new nvidia drivers seeming to kill cards and not running fans (although it sounds like the new 372.54 drivers seem to be working with the 900 series cards now).
    I would rather have it on water 1st time I run it.
    But, then again, what if the card is bad? What if it doesnt work at all? Then I would have wasted a few weeks.
    Sigh.
    Not sure what to do.


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    Use GPUZ or other software and keep an eye on your temps
     
    Make sure your case has positive air pressure
     
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/23 17:46:52 (permalink)
    Testing isnt the issue.
    I dont care about testing.
    I just dont want it to be on air and possibly get too hot and damage before the EVGA Hybrid Kit gets here to put on it.
    But, I think I am going to put it in anyway.
    I dont know the MSI Afterburner software at all though. It is way more complicated than the precision X, but I wont install the precision x software anymore, since everyone says it kills cards, and I dont want to take a chance. So, MSI afterburner it is.

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/23 18:09:59 (permalink)
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    Testing isnt the issue.
    I dont care about testing.
    I just dont want it to be on air and possibly get too hot and damage before the EVGA Hybrid Kit gets here to put on it.
    But, I think I am going to put it in anyway.
    I dont know the MSI Afterburner software at all though. It is way more complicated than the precision X, but I wont install the precision x software anymore, since everyone says it kills cards, and I dont want to take a chance. So, MSI afterburner it is.



    Testing the GPU - that you will not need to RMA - before closed loop cooler is installed. - is all I was saying
     
    Just keep you original air cooler (I've got both of mine) in case you have to RMA
     
    Get the version of AB that matches your OS
     
     

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/23 18:39:04 (permalink)
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    Testing isnt the issue.
    I dont care about testing.
    I just dont want it to be on air and possibly get too hot and damage before the EVGA Hybrid Kit gets here to put on it.
    But, I think I am going to put it in anyway.
    I dont know the MSI Afterburner software at all though. It is way more complicated than the precision X, but I wont install the precision x software anymore, since everyone says it kills cards, and I dont want to take a chance. So, MSI afterburner it is.


    ...
    Get the version of AB that matches your OS


    There are different versions?
    :O

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/24 12:43:28 (permalink)
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    Testing isnt the issue.
    I dont care about testing.
    I just dont want it to be on air and possibly get too hot and damage before the EVGA Hybrid Kit gets here to put on it.
    But, I think I am going to put it in anyway.
    I dont know the MSI Afterburner software at all though. It is way more complicated than the precision X, but I wont install the precision x software anymore, since everyone says it kills cards, and I dont want to take a chance. So, MSI afterburner it is.


    ...
    Get the version of AB that matches your OS


    There are different versions?
    :O


     
     
    We strongly recommend using the final build 4.2.0 if you are using Kepler/Maxwell GPUs
     
    LINK
    http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/msi-afterburner-beta-download.html
     
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/26 19:33:58 (permalink)
    Well, MSI-A worked just fine and dandy on my 780, but on my Titan X it doesnt show voltage ( shows 0mV ).
    Also, on my 780 it would show in Farenheight, AND would show BOTH fan speed and gpu temp on 1 line. On the Titan X, it shows only in Celcius and has everything monitored (only gpu temp and fan speed still) on 2 lines, so you have to scroll.
    I dont think whoever makes this software has a Titan X to test with.
    :(
     
    P.S.
    Yes, I used the above link and downloaded the 4.2 version.
    I uninstalled MSI-A before installing the card and the new drivers.

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/27 09:14:48 (permalink)
    Dave3d
    Well, MSI-A worked just fine and dandy on my 780, but on my Titan X it doesnt show voltage ( shows 0mV ).
    Also, on my 780 it would show in Farenheight, AND would show BOTH fan speed and gpu temp on 1 line. On the Titan X, it shows only in Celcius and has everything monitored (only gpu temp and fan speed still) on 2 lines, so you have to scroll.
    I dont think whoever makes this software has a Titan X to test with.
    :(
     
    P.S.
    Yes, I used the above link and downloaded the 4.2 version.
    I uninstalled MSI-A before installing the card and the new drivers.


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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/08/27 20:57:34 (permalink)
    Ok, so thats normal then.
    My 780 showed voltages, and it wasnt oc'ed, thats why I thought the Titan would show voltages.
     
    Any ideas on why the display would change (from both monitors being on 1 line to being on seperate lines so I have to scroll to see fan speed and temp?).
    Sorry, MSI-A is new to me, and not as intuitive as the EVGA precision X.
    Also, I never have OC'ed a video card before. I just buy the best I can afford, and run it stock (unless it is a factory oc'ed card, which I havent bought one of those in a long time).
     
    Also, any noob guids for MSI-A out there? I couldnt get the fan settings to do anything, it will just go either dark (like its off), or will set it to a number, but it wont let me get in and change the fan curve like the 780 let me do it in MSI-A. (yes, I uninstalled MSI-A before installing the Titan X, then reinstalled it after the Titan X was installed).
     
    Thanks a bunch all of you for helping out.
    This is a great forum, and you guys and/or gals make it great.
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/09/03 23:08:42 (permalink)
    Well, what a bunch of whooeeee.
    After a couple weeks, Amazon cancelled the order, saying there were no more.
     
    So, I went to EVGA and put one in my cart, then went to check out, and logged in, and it says I cant buy it.
    WTD?
    They have it.
    I should be able to buy it.
    So, why cant I ?
     
    This is getting seriously messed up.
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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/09/13 07:31:34 (permalink)
    Well, finally.
    I got the Corsair H90 and the Corsair H10 N980 kit (which isnt very good, as it doesnt have a couple screws in crucial spots like it should have, like in 1-2 spots around where the intel clamps on, although funnily enough the amd setup seems better set since it has 3 of the vid card screws right next to the amd setup screws, and the other one is the one that doesnt have a screw at all near eiher intel or amd. So, I can see why a lot of people dont like the setup, they made it too generic for 980, 980ti, and titan. Seems they should have done a 980, and a seperate 980ti/titan one, then they could have had better mounting to the card.
    It was more a pain in the butt than I wanted to deal with, but it works. (although at first the card didnt send a signal. I remembered someone saying to back the screws off a hair if this happened, until the vid card looked straight, and that did it it worked fine.
     
    The fan is just as quiet as the EVGA one (this one came fully equiped, unlike the earlier versions).
    And, the gpu never has gone above 54c while gaming so far.
    And, it idles at 27c.
     
    So, so far so good.
    I just need to find a more solid solution for the radiator.
    I already have a 2x120 up top, so it cant fit the single rad at the rear 1 140 fan (the tubes from the 2x120 are too close to squeeze it in), so I set it up in the 5 1/2 bays, just laying in the bottom one for now (took out the CM quick removable sata card so it could fit lower with less strain on the tubing). Check the CM HAF-X for what I am talking about, or I will post picks later.
     
    BTW:
    EVGA had super duper extra amounts of gpu paste on this card. It was, no lie, 1/4 inch high on the sides when I took the cooler off. There was paste overflowing inside the gpu/channels/outside the channels onto the board. It was rediculous.
    I also noticed that the memory pads were very gooey and pliable, were my first card they were pretty hard. I bet it was the memory pads that went kablooe and not the thermal paste (I am pretty sure of it actually). Take note EVGA. 6 months for memory pads to go bad is not good. (well, plus my fan was fudged, and the nvidia drivers, and power not working right, sigh).
    post edited by Dave3d - 2016/09/13 07:34:51

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    Re: Water cooling AIO solutions? 2016/11/23 16:08:33 (permalink)
    Freakin great.
    Now my replacement is going out.
    I found out what it is at least though: The video board 'flexes' downwards (too heavy) on the power end and then it starts acting all wonky (memory issues, wont send signal to monitor, is super duper slow). I picked up the end when it wouldnt send a signal to my monitor, and picking up the end made it work. A few days before, I had cleaned up the dust, and noticed I had unhooked a fan cable, that used to kind of keep the end of the video card up (it was going around the 6-pin and 8-pin power connectors, kind of keeping the card straight without me knowing it). So, me unhooking the fan cable made the video card kind of dip down on the power hookups corner. I put the fan cable back the way it was before cleaning out the dust, and now I dont have issues with signal loss anymore, but I am getting the same exact issues as before with my old card: Sometimes the computer is slow (loading the graphics), and sometimes its normal (usually ONLY when I have MSI Afterburner on is it any good, and then its only good maybe 70-80% of the time, which leads me to believe the card is going out exactly like the old card did, slowly but surely).
     
    Idle is 88F (31c) and it hardly EVER gets past 118F (47.7C) during gaming.
     
    So, I think I know what the issue is now: The end of the card is just too heavy, and it starts bending the video board, causing all kinds of problems.
     
    Should I send in for another card?
    This is getting just ridiculous.
    :(
    If I do send in for another card, I am going to put my FULL TOWER case on its side just so the stupid video card doesnt bend and get messed up. How stupid is that? I will have fans blowing in my face. :(

    I7 9700k water cooled-32GB Ram-Zotac 2080 x2 SLI-Asrock Z390 SLI mobo-EVGA 1600W G2 psu-ABS Glass case-2560x1440 144hz IPS monitor-Windows 10 Home
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