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2016/07/29 20:04:10 (permalink)
Hello everybody,
 
I already made a thread like this a while back -> http://forums.evga.com/EVGA-980Ti-Hybrid-70c-m2475176.aspx
It's a while back so I just wanted to make sure and ask again before I do anything.
 
TL;DR : My 980ti Hybrid is reaching temps of 70°c (Been running FurMark for 23 minutes, Power Limit @ 110, GPU is sitting at 70°c right now, room temp ~25°c)
People suggested reapplying the thermal paste because they thought the hetsink isn't making proper contact to the GPU.
I did not actually do that yet! I kind of forgot to do that because I wasn't doing much intensive stuff on my PC for the last few months.
 
The thing is: The radiator is hot and the air that's coming out of my PC is pretty warm as well.If the GPU heatsink wasn't making proper contact with the GPU then the radiator would not be this warm.This shows me that the GPU heatsink IS dissipating heat from the GPU.
 
Setup: Front: 2 SP120 (on of which has the radiator behind it) as intake
Back: 1 airflow fan as exhaust
Top: Corsair h100i GTX (2x 120mm SP fans) as exhaust
 
I tried plugging the Radiators fan into the motherboard instead of the GPU but that didn't help.
 
My Question is: Do you have any suggestions on what might be causing the heat issue?
What Thermal paste do you recommend should I choose to reapply the thermal paste?
I was thinking about using the Arctic MX-4 because I only had good experience with the Arctic MX line of thermal pastes
post edited by Exidrial - 2016/07/29 20:08:04

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/29 20:12:56 (permalink)
    IIRC the Hybrid uses a slightly modified H55. When I had my standard H55 w/ two eLoop fans (105 CFM and high static pressure) as push/pull intake for my 980 Ti Classified, the max temp was 55C with an ambient temp of around 25C.
     
    If you feel froggy, I'd remove the pump/contact plate and clean off the thermal paste and reapply new paste. Then re-seat the pump/contact plate and make sure it is snug.
     
    If that doesn't help you may want to call up EVGA and start an RMA. 70C is a bit toasty for a Hybrid - not that you'll damage the card with it at 70C, it's just that's warm for a AIO water cooled card.
     
    EDIT: Stupid question, but both of your radiator fans are blowing in the SAME direction, right?
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 03:06:38 (permalink)
    Yeah the radiator fans are blowing in the same direction.
     
    I'm gonna put some MX-4 on the card in the next few days...There's no point in having a Hybrid GPU if it gets THAT warm.
     
    Somebody recommended I do this in reverse direction http://www.evga.com/support/manuals/files/980_Ti_HYBRID_Installation_Guide.pdf in the old thread because it's probably the same process for the prebuilt Hybrid card.Can anybody confirm this?Otherwise I'll just post here should need help.

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 03:49:36 (permalink)
    Even a hybrid needs good air circulation so this is something to check inside your chassis.

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 06:56:52 (permalink)
    I thinks that's pretty warm   it can get hot in this room    at times  but I don't yet see  over 48c    [yet]     also   I goofed the measurements  of where I was mounting the rad   so I left it  ''loose''   and moving it around    I did notice on way I set the rad   and how the hoses were in line to the card   I seen a 7c drop overall   but still 70c on a hybrid  seems extreme    heck one guy was complaining about his in a tight sli   was hitting 55c  ??   the way he had it all [2 hybrids]  crammed in I thought he had nothing to complain about  for them max temps  ??
    what I found was what hose did what    from the pump   [intake and return]     I set the rad  so the  intake was at the top and return [from rad back to pump]  at the bottom   and and hoses straight as I can get  even with the center of the card   that gave my coolest overall temps and  no noise no nothing but works as expected    then you never know you could have a lemon pump   if not circulating  properly  [like maybe not enough rpms ]
     
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 10:25:18 (permalink)
     Front: 2 intake
    Back: 1 exhaust
    Top: 2 exhaust
     
    The hoses don't actually look like DNA anymore.They are straight now.
     
    I'd say airflow is not a problem.
     

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 10:37:43 (permalink)
    Exidrial
     Front: 2 intake
    Back: 1 exhaust
    Top: 2 exhaust
     
    The hoses don't actually look like DNA anymore.They are straight now.
     
    I'd say airflow is not a problem.
     





    What happens to your temps when you put both the hoses on the bottom? That should eliminate any air pockets in the water flow, and should lower temperatures a lot if that is the issue.
     
    You can turn the case on its side to test that.
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 10:40:38 (permalink)
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     Front: 2 intake
    Back: 1 exhaust
    Top: 2 exhaust
     
    The hoses don't actually look like DNA anymore.They are straight now.
     
    I'd say airflow is not a problem.
     





    What happens to your temps when you put both the hoses on the bottom? That should eliminate any air pockets in the water flow, and should lower temperatures a lot if that is the issue.
     
    You can turn the case on its side to test that.


    On its side? Do you mean so that the side the motherboard is screwed on lays on the ground or the other side?
    Why should that be the problem?The card was made to be put inside a system like that.But yeah I can try I guess.

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 10:51:48 (permalink)
    Sorry, hoses to the bottom of the radiator which can be done without remounting the rad if you put the case on its side for testing - that will eliminate or prove that air pockets are the problem.
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 10:58:38 (permalink)
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    Sorry, hoses to the bottom of the radiator which can be done without remounting the rad if you put the case on its side for testing - that will eliminate or prove that air pockets are the problem.


    Which side?Motherboard on the ground or hanging from the top?




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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 11:03:52 (permalink)
    you can see from this guys post pic's what is in and out  on the pumps outlets  [arrows to show flow]
     
    http://forums.evga.com/980-ti-hybrid-buzzing-noisy-pump-SOLVED-m2417352.aspx
     
    like a car   the hot goes in to the top of the rad and the cool water comes in to from the bottom    heat and air rises    so with the intake to the pump at the bottom no air should get in cause to rises to the top   ??  
     
    your pic's above are pretty close to the way I found best for my card ??   
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 11:11:53 (permalink)
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    Sorry, hoses to the bottom of the radiator which can be done without remounting the rad if you put the case on its side for testing - that will eliminate or prove that air pockets are the problem.


    Which side?Motherboard on the ground or hanging from the top?







    ...Motherboard upside down - from the picture's perspective, pull the case's top down towards you. Ala radiator tubes at the bottom of the radiator.
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 11:39:53 (permalink)
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    Sorry, hoses to the bottom of the radiator which can be done without remounting the rad if you put the case on its side for testing - that will eliminate or prove that air pockets are the problem.


    Which side?Motherboard on the ground or hanging from the top?







    ...Motherboard upside down - from the picture's perspective, pull the case's top down towards you. Ala radiator tubes at the bottom of the radiator.


    As long as nothing breaks that way because of the stuff pulling on the mobo.



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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 11:48:05 (permalink)
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    Sorry, hoses to the bottom of the radiator which can be done without remounting the rad if you put the case on its side for testing - that will eliminate or prove that air pockets are the problem.


    Which side?Motherboard on the ground or hanging from the top?







    ...Motherboard upside down - from the picture's perspective, pull the case's top down towards you. Ala radiator tubes at the bottom of the radiator.


    As long as nothing breaks that way because of the stuff pulling on the mobo.






    If it breaks then it wasn't mounted properly. I move my 80+ pound computer, modsrigs link on the left, around all the time. It doesn't break, so your lighter PC shouldn't have a problem - just don't put it on anything that puts pressure where a weak point is.
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 13:17:44 (permalink)
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    Sorry, hoses to the bottom of the radiator which can be done without remounting the rad if you put the case on its side for testing - that will eliminate or prove that air pockets are the problem.


    Which side?Motherboard on the ground or hanging from the top?







    ...Motherboard upside down - from the picture's perspective, pull the case's top down towards you. Ala radiator tubes at the bottom of the radiator.


    As long as nothing breaks that way because of the stuff pulling on the mobo.






    If it breaks then it wasn't mounted properly. I move my 80+ pound computer, modsrigs link on the left, around all the time. It doesn't break, so your lighter PC shouldn't have a problem - just don't put it on anything that puts pressure where a weak point is.


    Would 15 minutes of Furmark be enough for this test?



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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 13:19:41 (permalink)
    Yes, if there is a change it should be obvious after a little bit.
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 13:54:56 (permalink)
    As I looked at your photo it appears that in your original configuration, one of the hoses from your cooler was resting on the power connectors.  I cannot judge if it was exerting any downward pressure on your card.  I only point it out because I recently went through a similar problem with a GTX 980 card with a hybrid cooler. The pcb had bowed.  I fixed the problem by removing the heatsink and reinstalling it, taking care to take the bow out of the pcb.  Not just the gpu cooler, but the heatsink/housing on the full length of the card. My load temps had been approaching 70.  Reinstalling the heatsink(using original thermal pads), gpu cooler (new TIM), and getting it all straightened out: temps back to 25 at idle, 44 under load.

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 14:30:10 (permalink)
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    As I looked at your photo it appears that in your original configuration, one of the hoses from your cooler was resting on the power connectors.  I cannot judge if it was exerting any downward pressure on your card.  I only point it out because I recently went through a similar problem with a GTX 980 card with a hybrid cooler. The pcb had bowed.  I fixed the problem by removing the heatsink and reinstalling it, taking care to take the bow out of the pcb.  Not just the gpu cooler, but the heatsink/housing on the full length of the card. My load temps had been approaching 70.  Reinstalling the heatsink(using original thermal pads), gpu cooler (new TIM), and getting it all straightened out: temps back to 25 at idle, 44 under load.


    It wasn't putting any pressure on the power connector, at least not enough to bow the PCB.Thanks for the tip though.


    post edited by Exidrial - 2016/07/30 14:36:51

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 15:49:05 (permalink)
    don't know  ? if your card is like your pic's and running up to 70c    I feel the pump is not circulating   correct     the way you got that should seem to be as mine  maybe 43 50c    but no way 70c    the hottest my card got oc'ed is 47c    [not to say I got a great oc'er]  but still   I could not go for 70c in any way 
     
    that set up in your pic look nice open  like you said air flow should not be a factor    at least to be getting up to 70c   [maybe a rma is in store ] ?? 
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/30 16:53:04 (permalink)
    I'm gonna try the air bubble test first in a day or two.
     
    But its so strange...the radiator is getting hot and the air is really warm too so it should be dissipating the heat correctly...strange.
     
    I really hole I don't have to RMA it because I need my computer for a school project atm so RMAing will probably have to wait a month or two.
     
    Edit: Laying the case on the side didn't change temperatures.
    post edited by Exidrial - 2016/07/31 02:31:45

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/31 07:46:08 (permalink)
    But its so strange...the radiator is getting hot and the air is really warm too so it should be dissipating the heat correctly...strange.
     
    I guess so but with out being right there for hands on  ?/     then still maybe something wrong with in the card that causeing it to just run hot   cooler working proper or not  ??     what if it was air card you find jumps to 100+c instantly   maybe the hybrid cooler is doing all it can to keep it in check as it is now ??
     
    reguardless in my opinion  them temps aint right    like said my card  never sees  over 50c   pounding on it  ??    so maybe the hybrid cooler is doing all it can and working great  to maintain  a defective card  holding it down to that 70c ???
     
     
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/31 07:58:24 (permalink)
    In my opinion contact EVGA tech support as I feel it might be time for an RMA.
     
    If you have a house fan (or can borrow one) and you blow air into the chassis and the temps still stay at 70 I would say it is a card/pump issue.

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/07/31 08:07:42 (permalink)
    I was going to add   contact them   suggest and ask approval  to remove the pump  from the gpu chip    inspect   repaste   re try  to se if its just from a factory paste/cooler mount  goof job  or anything surrounding that  ??     these thing can happen   nothings 100%
     
    then if the card does the same  your down to a rma       but that's all your call on how you want to proceed   from here .. I'd just cut the chase and rma  before something else pops up and you left holding the bag 
     
    if it was a older card out of warrantee  or something as that  I do / try a fix   but   I feel where you stand  its evga issue    to make right  not me doing all the worring and work to make it right  [ but that's just me ]
    that's why they got support and warrantees and rma process  to help make things right if you were to get a defective item  
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/08/01 08:44:06 (permalink)
    He does not need to ask approval to remove the pump, EVGA allows that.
    That is what I would try at this point, I had to re-paste my 980s hybrid kit not long ago as it was getting close to 70c, after re-paste it cooled down to low 50s.
    Lately I have been seeing low 60s, but it is hot here so I am not worried about it.

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/08/01 11:01:35 (permalink)
    point I was making is did you pay for something ''you'' got to work on  new ??? for the price of these cards you should just need to run them not work on them  to make run properly  to start with 
     
    why I say ask evga may want to look at the factorys  handy work  first hand  to see if something was up under there QC  that may need looking at    top expensive card and you got to ''repair''  with it to make work right ??  then that's your call    then what id you damaged something during your repair  and evga claims  end user abuse ??   now where do you stand  -  just box it up send it in  replace through rma 
     when I pay for first quality  item I expect it to work as expected  not work on it  trying to get it to   ,,lol,,,
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/08/01 11:14:25 (permalink)
    oh good point
    i guess im used to the fact that mine isnt a factory hybrid card, i did it myself

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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/08/01 15:37:44 (permalink)
    with that I can understand where your coming from    that then would be on you  and no prob ,  and how it can be when adding  a cooler  kit as you  did ..   anything could happen during ''your'' assembly process  that may need a relook or redo  if found  needed ...  
     
    all I know is it stinks when you get a lemon and luck was not on your side   and then  got to deal with it   instead of enjoying ..   [been there / done that a few times ]
     
    I do wish him good luck on how ever he decides to handle it  
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/08/10 00:12:36 (permalink)
    Little late to throw in here, but I might suggest a couple of other tricks you could try (if you haven't already). 
     
    1) move the hybrid radiator to the rear where you have that big 120mm fan now with the air blowing outward so that the air flow goes from the front of the case across the motherboard and then out the back over the radiator. I have a similar case, and I took the added step of moving the hard drive cage to a new rigged up mount point closer to the power supply so that I could install two silent running 120mm fans sucking air in from the front of the case.  This will help dissipate heat more easily and will keep your case cooler overall.  Otherwise heat will collect from your ram and motherboard circling around the gpu without a flow of air to push it out.  (You could also do a static setup with that fan by mounting one fan to each side of the radiator in a push / pull setup for even better cooling.)
     
    2) check to make sure your large fans and the pump for the cpu cooler are set to full speed in the bios, or in the app whichever you're using to set the rpms. I ran into this when I was setting mine up.  The rpms for the pump and fans were just too low to move sufficient air across the gpu radiator when the system was at idle which made everything in the system run hotter.
     
    Here's how mine looks under benchmark load with that setup - max temp is 52c, idle temp 32c:



     
    Hope that helps, or that you figured out a solution and its a moot point =)  
     
     
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/08/10 12:30:09 (permalink)
    still 52 c ?  I yet to break over 48c   with all I got to throw at it   then I guess its back to luck of the draw   [and its no winter wonder land in this room ]
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    Re: GTX 980ti Hybrid @70°c 2016/08/13 17:53:21 (permalink)
    Staying bellow 55-60ºC is a good temp range for the Hybrids.
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