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2016/02/11 22:13:51 (permalink)
http://vrworld.com/2016/02/12/cern-confirms-amd-zen-high-end-specifications/
 
Is 2016 the year when AMD is (finally) coming back?

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/12 04:32:22 (permalink)
    I hope so.
    32 Core count, or a 16 core with a Xbox or PS4 graphics built in, sign me up.


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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/12 04:44:08 (permalink)
    who cares about console graphics, PC gaming is superior
     

      


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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/12 11:04:38 (permalink)
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    who cares about console graphics, PC gaming is superior
     


    Well if I am building a budget system or a small lan system...
    Just go away.


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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/12 11:15:33 (permalink)
    Console gaming is superior when the title is only on a console, lol. I do enjoy my pc though.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/12 11:39:01 (permalink)
    5% stronger than i5-6600K in multi applications.
    30% slower in single.
    I mean on most powerful desktop version of Zen.
     
    But if AMD launch processors with 16 and 32 cores for nice price there are good chance to people who bought Xtreme platform decide to try AMD with 16 cores examples. Special if motherboard manufacturers launch nice motherboards.
    But people will look single threaded performance and overclocking as well. 
    No one will pay 32 core Opteron for games instead i7-5960X if single threaded performance are 50% slower.
    Intel is in advantage their processors are strong and in single applications and in multi applications and i7-5960X improvement after OC is 40-50% in some cases. He will cost 550-600$ used when Zen show up.
     
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/12 11:56:06 (permalink)
    8GB HBM2 and ~2000 core GPU? That would make the graphics section VERY impressive. 
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/13 00:34:38 (permalink)
     Are some of you being dumb on purpose or do you read info about anything Zen as "aimed at me"?  The article is clearly and obviously talking about server processors, not consumer processors-- go look up what CERN is.
     
    An FX Zen model will not have 32-cores and a massive Polaris die for an IGP.  The flagship of the entire archtecture would be well over $3000 as it would bridge/hybrid the FirePro and Opteron SKUs.  
     
    Nothing to do with PC or consoles; in fact the direct Intel competitor is Skylake-F, which is Intel's attempt at pairing their 28-core Skylake-EP with a sockectable XeonPhi die all with 6-channel DDR4.  After all, AMD's Exascale Heterogeneous Processor seems squarely aimed at the compute market, not enthusiasts or gamers.  

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/13 21:52:22 (permalink)
    5% stronger than i5-6600K in multi applications.
     
    That's funny.. the new cpu-z has a benchmark test and allows you to compare yours vs other cpu's .. my X5660 at 4.1Ghz (DDR 3 Triple channel @1400Mhz) is 8% faster then the I7-6700K at 4Ghz (DDR4 Skylake) in multi tread applications.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/14 01:19:32 (permalink)
    Maybe is faster little than i5-6600K but I think it's not faster than i7-6700K with HT Link.
    Intel new processors work very nice in multi threads, your Xeon is excellent and still could serve.
    I thought that AMD's best desktop model will be little better than i5. 
     
    Maybe Intel give only small performance difference but always have something nice on market and some improvements are visible.
    Example i7-5820K new generation is almost as i7-4960X. If i7-4960X is stronger that's only because higher clock.
    X58 is still live platform, but if you compare with Skylake difference in single and multi ap. is not so small.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/14 05:02:27 (permalink)
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    Console gaming is superior when the title is only on a console, lol. I do enjoy my pc though.

    The way corporates come in to make the developers to have them make it only for the console, makes me sick. The idea that we (PC owners) will go and buy a console just to play it on their system? Not going to happen. Honestly, if it were exclusively for the Xbox (for example), why not have it available for the PS4 and the PC, and increase your sales 3x the amount? Greedy and ignorant people far surpass someone holding a gun, if you want to compare who has a bigger threat.

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/14 14:52:15 (permalink)
    stalinx20
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    Console gaming is superior when the title is only on a console, lol. I do enjoy my pc though.

    The way corporates come in to make the developers to have them make it only for the console, makes me sick. The idea that we (PC owners) will go and buy a console just to play it on their system? Not going to happen. Honestly, if it were exclusively for the Xbox (for example), why not have it available for the PS4 and the PC, and increase your sales 3x the amount? Greedy and ignorant people far surpass someone holding a gun, if you want to compare who has a bigger threat.


    I think having some exclusives is cool, I could never imagine playing Halo on a PlayStation# or Gran Turismo on an Xbox.
    Or maybe I have been brain washed!


    But pc has its own version of this and its called Gameworks.
    Red team just made thier own version of this so we dont get another case of the Witcher3.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/14 15:01:04 (permalink)
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     Are some of you being dumb on purpose or do you read info about anything Zen as "aimed at me"?  The article is clearly and obviously talking about server processors, not consumer processors-- go look up what CERN is.
     
    An FX Zen model will not have 32-cores and a massive Polaris die for an IGP.  The flagship of the entire archtecture would be well over $3000 as it would bridge/hybrid the FirePro and Opteron SKUs.  
     
    Nothing to do with PC or consoles; in fact the direct Intel competitor is Skylake-F, which is Intel's attempt at pairing their 28-core Skylake-EP with a sockectable XeonPhi die all with 6-channel DDR4.  After all, AMD's Exascale Heterogeneous Processor seems squarely aimed at the compute market, not enthusiasts or gamers.  


    Well the server CPU will (maybe) feature 32 cores and the consumer CPU will be a 16 core APU, atleast from the handfull of websites I looked at. But we have had bad AMD info before and its all speculation for now.


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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/14 15:03:21 (permalink)
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    Is 2016 the year when AMD is (finally) coming back?

    I doubt it.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/15 19:44:02 (permalink)
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    Maybe is faster little than i5-6600K but I think it's not faster than i7-6700K with HT Link.
    Intel new processors work very nice in multi threads, your Xeon is excellent and still could serve.
    I thought that AMD's best desktop model will be little better than i5. 
     
    Maybe Intel give only small performance difference but always have something nice on market and some improvements are visible.
    Example i7-5820K new generation is almost as i7-4960X. If i7-4960X is stronger that's only because higher clock.
    X58 is still live platform, but if you compare with Skylake difference in single and multi ap. is not so small.




    That is with HT link on for i7-6700K .. I don't know what Intel has been doing all these years other then fishing for money.. if I compare to the i7-5930k @3.5Ghz it is 11% faster in single tread and 13% faster in multi then my Xeon at 4.1Ghz .. the point is I have 6 year old tech and it will run faster as I have had it to 4.6Ghz before.. I would never catch the i7-5930K overclocked but I can get close to a stock one with more tuning without spending $1000 dollars to see what it feels like.
     
    If I compare to the i7 - 5960x at stock speed (1491) me at 4.1Ghz (1476) in single tread , multi tread it (12156) me (9428) but that's an 8 core cpu to my old 6 core.. your 6700K only does (8767) in multi at stock speed with HT on.
     
    So I have the single tread power of a $1049 (cpu allow) dollar i7-5960x at stock speed and the multi tread power of a  $400(cpu allow)  6700K at stock speed and the upgrade cost me $100.
     
    Just to show you I am not BS you this is the Xeon at 4.4Ghz turbo pulling Physics Score 15094 in Firestrike  http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3959830
     
    Also I checked and the i7-6700K needs 4.9 to 5.0Ghz to break 15000 Physics score in Firestrike and 5.2Ghz is the limit which will net you 16000+
     
    This guy http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6982073 pulled 15047 with his 6700K @4.9Ghz with ram speed of 3600Mhz and he got
    Physics Test
    47.77 fps
    to my 4.4Ghz with a ram speed of 1540Mhz
    Physics Test
    47.92 fps

     
    So yes the old Xeon is faster then you think it is..
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/15 21:25:01 (permalink)
    The guy spend $650 to 675 in cpu/mobo/ram but I guess Intel got him hooked good if the look at the ad that says Game like a Pro 30x better 3D graphics vs 5year old pc
     
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/15 22:17:21 (permalink)
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    who cares about console graphics, PC gaming is superior
     


    Still the main development platform for games is on the console, they get beefier hardware, those of us on PC get better visuals.

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/18 15:48:55 (permalink)
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    Well the server CPU will (maybe) feature 32 cores and the consumer CPU will be a 16 core APU, atleast from the handfull of websites I looked at.
    Next time try looking at history, trends, marketing or strategy.  PC Enthusiast websites tend to be somewhat narrow-minded on subjects outside their interests.  I'd trust a CERN employee ahead of websites filled with non-target audience members.
     
       For instance, dual-channel DDR has been a constant in the mainstream space for over a decade, regardless of core count. That will likely remain even as a dual-channel variant will have no more than 8-core-16-thread whether CPU or APU when applied to the consumer space.  Since AMD intends to put both FX and A series processors in the same AM4 socket, it is also unlikely they will attempt to compete with Intel's HEDT platform with quad-channel as it may cannibalize the dual-channel lineup. While the same logic would threaten Intel's X vs. Z platforms, they are a much bigger company and can afford to sell platforms at a loss for the sake of marketing exposure.  
     
    I don't see AMD pushing higher-end ponsumer APU/CPU with more than 8c-16t on a different socket, i.e. hybrids of Opteron and FirePro and thus intention of their giant APUs, hence the slide by the CERN employee.  CERN is a nuclear research lab in Europe, they have use for computation.

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/18 15:48:55 (permalink)
    Double post, typing on a tablet sucks.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/18 15:53:51 (permalink)
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    seth89
    Well the server CPU will (maybe) feature 32 cores and the consumer CPU will be a 16 core APU, atleast from the handfull of websites I looked at.
    Next time try looking at history, trends, marketing or strategy.  PC Enthusiast websites tend to be somewhat narrow-minded on subjects outside their interests.  I'd trust a CERN employee ahead of websites filled with non-target audience members.
     
     
       For instance, dual-channel DDR has been a constant in the mainstream space for over a decade, regardless of core count. That will likely remain even as a dual-channel variant will have no more than 8-core-16-thread whether CPU or APU when applied to the consumer space.  Since AMD intends to put both FX and A series processors in the same AM4 socket, it is also unlikely they will attempt to compete with Intel's HEDT platform with quad-channel as it may cannibalize the dual-channel lineup. While the same logic would threaten Intel's X vs. Z platforms, they are a much bigger company and can afford to sell platforms at a loss for the sake of marketing exposure.  
     
    I don't see AMD pushing higher-end ponsumer APU/CPU with more than 8c-16t on a different socket, i.e. hybrids of Opteron and FirePro and thus intention of their giant APUs, hence the slide by the CERN employee.  CERN is a nuclear research lab in Europe, they have use for computation.


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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/20 13:33:35 (permalink)
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     For instance, dual-channel DDR has been a constant in the mainstream space for over a decade, regardless of core count.
     


    That's because companies think we don't need anything better than dual channel. Oh yeah... they offer quad channel, but slap an additional $200 on it? Blood sucking CEOs lmao... It's kind of the same "philosophy" that consumers don't need anything more than 30fps because the human eye doesn't see anything faster than 24fps (really? How about you guys just don't want to put more money in your piece of crap console because it would be actual money coming from your wallet )... I see it as being shady, and not wanting to advance in the technological aspects,because it would cost money, and it would more than likely come out of the CEO's pockets, if they were to have advanced computer technology. We could have far more better than what companies are giving the public. It's just Typical companies wanting to hinder you, and tell you that "this" is sufficient enough.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/20 16:16:21 (permalink)
    It's amazing after decades of failing to produce, there are actually people out there that continue to believe the hype regarding AMD marketing.
     
    AMD actually delivering on marketing hype is basically a white whale now. Good luck with that.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/20 16:27:27 (permalink)
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    It's amazing after decades of failing to produce, there are actually people out there that continue to believe the hype regarding AMD marketing.
     
    AMD actually delivering on marketing hype is basically a white whale now. Good luck with that.


    We have to a have a little faith in AMD. It helps keep them going once in a while.
     

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/20 18:31:23 (permalink)
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    It's amazing after decades of failing to produce, there are actually people out there that continue to believe the hype regarding AMD marketing.
     
    AMD actually delivering on marketing hype is basically a white whale now. Good luck with that.


    We have to a have a little faith in AMD. It helps keep them going once in a while.
     


    It's in everybody's best interest that AMD does well. If we are left with only GeForce and Intel we will be using the i7 until 2030 and branded 900 cards until 2020. Oh and they will be $1,000+.
    I am surprised that more people are not impressed with AMDs video graphics products. Look at how well they are able to keep up with Nvidia's technology with almost no R&D money. What AMD spends on R&D Nvidia spends on Coffee but yet we AMD has awesome products like the R9 and Fury/nano.
     
     
    Also up till 2009 there was no reason not to buy into their hype. They were a very competitive company, who knows maybe they will get competitive again this year..... maybe.


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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/21 07:22:37 (permalink)
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    fearpoint
    It's amazing after decades of failing to produce, there are actually people out there that continue to believe the hype regarding AMD marketing.
     
    AMD actually delivering on marketing hype is basically a white whale now. Good luck with that.


    We have to a have a little faith in AMD. It helps keep them going once in a while.
     


    It's in everybody's best interest that AMD does well. If we are left with only GeForce and Intel we will be using the i7 until 2030 and branded 900 cards until 2020. Oh and they will be $1,000+.
    I am surprised that more people are not impressed with AMDs video graphics products. Look at how well they are able to keep up with Nvidia's technology with almost no R&D money. What AMD spends on R&D Nvidia spends on Coffee but yet we AMD has awesome products like the R9 and Fury/nano.
     
     
    Also up till 2009 there was no reason not to buy into their hype. They were a very competitive company, who knows maybe they will get competitive again this year..... maybe.


    I completely agree with you. The last thing we want is a monopoly, and Nvidia charging $700 for the x70 series.

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/21 10:48:21 (permalink)
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    Just to show you I am not BS you this is the Xeon at 4.4Ghz turbo pulling Physics Score 15094 in Firestrike  http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3959830
     
    Also I checked and the i7-6700K needs 4.9 to 5.0Ghz to break 15000 Physics score in Firestrike and 5.2Ghz is the limit which will net you 16000+
     
    This guy http://www.3dmark.com/fs/6982073 pulled 15047 with his 6700K @4.9Ghz with ram speed of 3600Mhz and he got
    Physics Test
    47.77 fps
    to my 4.4Ghz with a ram speed of 1540Mhz
    Physics Test
    47.92 fps


     
    So yes the old Xeon is faster then you think it is..



    I can break 15k in FS Physics using my laptop @ 4.7Ghz (i7 6700K): http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10025059 
     
    Oh and I'm not the only one: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/10457028 
     
    It doesn't need to be clocked at 4.9-5.0Ghz for 15K. Those others should be scoring higher.
     
    Just thought I'd put that out there. 

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/21 11:33:49 (permalink)
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    It's amazing after decades of failing to produce, there are actually people out there that continue to believe the hype regarding AMD marketing.
     
    AMD actually delivering on marketing hype is basically a white whale now. Good luck with that.


    We have to a have a little faith in AMD. It helps keep them going once in a while.
     


    It's in everybody's best interest that AMD does well. If we are left with only GeForce and Intel we will be using the i7 until 2030 and branded 900 cards until 2020. Oh and they will be $1,000+.
    I am surprised that more people are not impressed with AMDs video graphics products. Look at how well they are able to keep up with Nvidia's technology with almost no R&D money. What AMD spends on R&D Nvidia spends on Coffee but yet we AMD has awesome products like the R9 and Fury/nano.
     
     
    Also up till 2009 there was no reason not to buy into their hype. They were a very competitive company, who knows maybe they will get competitive again this year..... maybe.


    I agree, I really hope the succeed.
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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/21 18:49:53 (permalink)
    Remember options guys!?!
    Remember the diversity in computer systems?
    Remember how fun that was ?
     
    I do. I feel like we're iPhone users just waiting to buy the next version of the same product because it has a different number.


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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/22 17:34:41 (permalink)
    I for one have switched over to the RED side GPU wise. I'm running a Fury X and couldn't be happier. 
     
    My last ATI/AMD card was the 4850. It's nice to see AMD's drivers are actually not bad. 
     
    Don't know how much hope I have for their Zen CPU though. 

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    Re: AMD ZEN CPU AND APU SPECS CONFIRMED? 2016/02/24 09:49:12 (permalink)
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    Well the server CPU will (maybe) feature 32 cores and the consumer CPU will be a 16 core APU, atleast from the handfull of websites I looked at.
    Next time try looking at history, trends, marketing or strategy.  PC Enthusiast websites tend to be somewhat narrow-minded on subjects outside their interests.  I'd trust a CERN employee ahead of websites filled with non-target audience members.
     
       For instance, dual-channel DDR has been a constant in the mainstream space for over a decade, regardless of core count. That will likely remain even as a dual-channel variant will have no more than 8-core-16-thread whether CPU or APU when applied to the consumer space.  Since AMD intends to put both FX and A series processors in the same AM4 socket, it is also unlikely they will attempt to compete with Intel's HEDT platform with quad-channel as it may cannibalize the dual-channel lineup. While the same logic would threaten Intel's X vs. Z platforms, they are a much bigger company and can afford to sell platforms at a loss for the sake of marketing exposure.  
     
    I don't see AMD pushing higher-end ponsumer APU/CPU with more than 8c-16t on a different socket, i.e. hybrids of Opteron and FirePro and thus intention of their giant APUs, hence the slide by the CERN employee.  CERN is a nuclear research lab in Europe, they have use for computation.




    I wanted to come back to this.


    What in the world have you been talking about?
    Nobody is saying that the consumer version will be a 32 core CPU but a few times its been suggested that would be reserved for servers. People have also suggested a 8-16core APU for the consumer market. I don't get why you came on so strong over nothing. 
    Am I missing something?
     


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