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2015/11/24 03:56:50 (permalink)
Hello I have a friend building a new pc for his son this is what he's looking at and I would like to know what to change he doesn't what 2 water cool.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qHwRcf
Thank You.
post edited by TheZone - 2015/11/24 05:26:02

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    Vlada011
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 04:15:48 (permalink)
    I would go on cheaper motherboard and more expensive CPU and different RAM to be QVL compatible with motherboard.
     
    Motherboard ASUS Maximus VIII Hero
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132565&cm_re=ASUS_MAXIMUS_VIII_HERO-_-13-132-565-_-Product
     
    Processors i7-6700K
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117559
     
    RAM
    http://www.newegg.com/Pro...x?Item=N82E16820231911
     
    That's my opinion if he want to keep that platform Intel Skylake, Z170.
    These two changes are very important because with cheaper motherboard you don't lose nothing and i7 is better processor than i5.
    Special for GTX980Ti and future. I changed memory not because your is bad, only because ASUS didn't test that type on Maximus VIII Hero.
     
     
    But there are other option with Intel Xtreme 6 core, X99...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117402&cm_re=intel_i7-5820K-_-19-117-402-_-Product
     
    Ask him if they want we could help to build for same price.
    Because 420$ is too much for Intel i7-6700K. His real price should be around 350-360 max 380$.
    This price is only because many people want him now.
    Only Microcenter sell i7-6700K for 360$, that's fair price for him.
    http://www.microcenter.co...A_1151_Boxed_Processor
     
    i7-5820K is better processor for my opnion and could be found for 300-320$.
    He have more cores, bigger L3 cache and little better Quad Channel memory.
    It's possible to build for same money with different CPU, Motherboard and RAM.
    Everything other stay same. If you don't want it's absolutely OK to change only CPU and motherboard RAM from first 3 links.
     
     
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2015/11/24 04:29:16

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    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 04:50:27 (permalink)
    That is way too much for a dual SLI motherboard. For $300+ you can get a motherboard that supports four video boards. MSI makes a good product and this Z170 will work nicely:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130872&cm_re=msi_z170a_gaming_m7-_-13-130-872-_-Product
     
    I agree that the i7-6700k is a better choice and worth the difference in price to get the extra speed and higher clock rates from the factory without the need for overclocking. The price does fluctuate due to availability but can be found for $369.99 on average.
     
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 04:53:21 (permalink)
    This is my configuration and cost 150$ more...
    You have
    i7-6700K instead i5-6600K
    Maximus VIII Hero instead ASUS Z170 Deluxe
    Trident Z 3000MHz QVL instead Ripjaws V 2400 non QVL
    ASUS GTX980Ti Strix OC 1200MHz instead EVGA GTX980Ti SC 1100MHz
     
    Most important part is i7-6700K, Maximus VIII Hero and QVL Trident Z Memory.
    ASUS graphic card cost same as EVGA only have 100MHz better clock, if you think that better technical support on USA territory is more important you can keep EVGA GTX980Ti SC, that change nothing in price because their price are same.
     
    https://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
     
    Before 5-6 months I would choose EVGA, now ASUS. 
    But technical support and fast resolving problems mean lot to many people, special in USA where EVGA pay attention on their customers.
    Only ASUS have faster card and better cooling, it's not reference PCB as EVGA.
     
     
     
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2015/11/24 04:56:47

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    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 04:57:28 (permalink)
    Better yet is to go with the 4790k Devils Canyon CPU at a very good price right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369
    Z97 motherboards are a stable proven platform and with a CPU that boosts to 4.4 GHz there is no reason to overclock there either.
     
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 04:59:16 (permalink)
    Vlada011, your parts picker page is blank.
     
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 05:01:21 (permalink)
    Blank page....
     
    http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
     
    Really you can't open...??? Weird...


     
    There are GSKILL Trident Z 3000MHz 2x8 for 105$ but that memory is with higher latency and it's not QVL.
    And Skylake with new memory controller could show little better results with 3000MHz compare to 2400MHz memory...
    Maybe is even better to stay on Skylake platform 4 cores with HT Link will be OK for games...
    i7-5820K have other advantages but for games for now not and you could save little in power bill, if he choose Skylake, better to stay Skylake only much better. I even hear that soon developers will recommend nothing less than i7 for newer games as best configuration...
     
    But if customer want it's possible to build nice X99 platform for same price with 4x4GB memory (Quad Channel), Intel with 6 cores,
    some nice MSI X99 USB 3.1 board not expensive, or some ASUS X99A-USB 3.1 or X99S-USB 3.1...Depend what he like more.
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2015/11/24 05:15:38

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    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 05:06:57 (permalink)
    Nope, this is what I get:
     

     
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 05:10:35 (permalink)
    Thanks for the help every one ill pass everything on to him.
     
     
    post edited by TheZone - 2015/11/24 05:15:04

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 05:44:31 (permalink)
    just text my buddy and told him to get on EVGA site later today I know his son play games don't know which one's-- I like him to stay with EVGA for the card as you said for customers support is great also the people on the site.

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 05:46:54 (permalink)
    No Devil Cannon. That's past and he shouldn't look on back.
    Intel Z170 or eventually X99 platform are much better support for fast new M.2 drivers in future and overclocked i7-6700K will work better in multi applications than i7-4790K... It's not good to buy older platform only because CPU have highest Turbo and than it's same as i7-6700K. Later Intel will launch i7-6790K and what than...DDR4 cost same as DDR3, motherboard cost similar.
    Now is time of Z170 and X99. Maybe owners of Z97 don't have reason to upgrade now because next year will be something better and their platform is strong, but when someone invest 1700-1800$ he should buy real gaming PC with all newest parts on market.
    That's i7-6700K and GTX980Ti 6GB and he will play 3-4 years with that PC and after that he will be useful for many things on not for newest games in highest resolution and details. 
    It's not same when you say now I still have DDR3 and for 2 years when you say I still have DDR3.
    Man invest now and he choose right platform for gaming. For work is maybe better X99 but Z170 is excellent newest and better investing in Z170 than Z97 anyway. Z97 and Z87 are very similar, that's old platform, 8 PCI-E lanes Gen 2, Z170 have 20 PCI-E lanes Gen 3, much wider possibility for different devices. Everything build in next 3-4 years will fit much better on Z170 than Z97, even USB 3.1 support, that's 100% faster transfer than USB 3.0.
     
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2015/11/24 05:56:07

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    http://www.evga.com
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    https://watercool.de
    http://www.lian-li.com
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMun5xiRe0
     
    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
    https://www.evga.com/articles/01386/evga-sr-3-dark/
     
     
     

     
     
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 06:05:00 (permalink)
    TheZone
    just text my buddy and told him to get on EVGA site later today I know his son play games don't know which one's-- I like him to stay with EVGA for the card as you said for customers support is great also the people on the site.




    OK that's good reason, EVGA treat USA really good. If something happen with card and store and manufacturer will help.
    He ask for advice here, they will ask him simple question about problem, send ling for RMA request and he will send card and get other.
    They will no chat days and weeks with technical support only to try all stupid things and than wait 20-25 days for replacement.
     
    Only really important things are i7-6700K and Maximus VIII Hero and that supported GSkill Trident Z.
    That's not only my personal choice, for that money 90% of people will choose same.
    No reason to pay 300$ for some Deluxe motherboard and i5 when cheaper motherboard and better Processor is better options.
    Special because Hero is attractive and good board and many people like ROG series.
    I don't Hero is better than Deluxe... It's not, but it's not worse.
    post edited by Vlada011 - 2015/11/24 06:10:36

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHMun5xiRe0
     
    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
    https://www.evga.com/articles/01386/evga-sr-3-dark/
     
     
     

     
     
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 07:16:01 (permalink)
    He should really dump the Seagate drive and get a Western Digital Blue or Black drive instead, preferably the Black would be a better match with a SSD and has a better warranty. The Seagate drives just aren't as reliable as the Western Digital drives and have pretty short warrantys. I like the Hitachi's drives myself and they seem to have excellent reliability. I have a couple much older Deskstars that are still working well and I know a lot of OEMS used them in their products, like Iomega, and their warrantys are as good as WD's, so you don't have to be too leery of them if you want to give them a shot too. Also, CoolerMaster has some refurb cases for cheap at their store heres one that's a full tower: http://www.cmstore-usa.com/cm-storm-trooper-gaming-full-tower-computer-case-refurbished/  Good luck with his build man!  \m/

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 07:23:10 (permalink)
    Yes but they cost more I think, I didn't want to price go up. I'm always for WD Black SATA III before anything else.
    I never use HDD except Western Digital and Matrox before more than 10 years. 
    That would be AMAZING BUILD. With increasing frequency of i7-6700K on 4.5GHz he become better CPU than i7-4790K on 4.4GHz Turbo. And for i7-6700K that's only 300MHz and probably lot of CPU will work with default voltage or 1.150V, 50mV increase.
    Amazing build.

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 08:13:27 (permalink)
    I have a old CM Stacker 830 SE case I'm trying to give him but I don't think his son likes it he wants a window case lol
    like mine HAF X 942 but with no fan.
    I have two PSU old HX 1000 42A rail and  X-3 70A rail PSU I hope he takes and spend the money else were.

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 09:57:53 (permalink)
    Never mind, if he like new case with window it's OK.
    Obsidian 750D is nice case for that price, how much 100$?
    That's OK case, people in Europe pay 150 euro usually for that case.
    You can help them to install hardware in case. 
     

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    https://xdevs.com/guide/2080ti_kpe/#intro
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 10:12:06 (permalink)
    Jesus, sellers are crazy completely with Skylake price.
    i7-6700K and Maximus VIII Hero = 640$. But for such build for 2-3 years not worth going with less than i7-6700K...
     
    I would build for 600$ this...
    http://www.microcenter.com/product/437204/Core_i7-5930K_35_GHz_LGA_2011-V3_Processor
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130840&cm_re=MSI_X99_KRAIT_EDITION-_-13-130-840-_-Product
     
    And instead Trident Z 3000MHz 2x8 for 135$ I would choose Ripjaws 4 2800 4x4 for 120$
     
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=F4-2800C16Q-16GRK&N=-1&isNodeId=1
     
    That would be my choice for that price. Board have M.2 transfer up to 32, Internal USB 3.1,
    small slot for Sound card, for such price it's enough.
    Board is not so good as Maximus VIII Hero but normal user will not have problems and  processor is even stupid to talk about that.
    Everything else is not important so much... but if they want Skylake OK.
     
     

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/24 15:33:18 (permalink)
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    He should really dump the Seagate drive and get a Western Digital Blue or Black drive instead, preferably the Black would be a better match with a SSD and has a better warranty. The Seagate drives just aren't as reliable as the Western Digital drives and have pretty short warrantys. I like the Hitachi's drives myself and they seem to have excellent reliability. I have a couple much older Deskstars that are still working well and I know a lot of OEMS used them in their products, like Iomega, and their warrantys are as good as WD's, so you don't have to be too leery of them if you want to give them a shot too. Also, CoolerMaster has some refurb cases for cheap at their store heres one that's a full tower: http://www.cmstore-usa.com/cm-storm-trooper-gaming-full-tower-computer-case-refurbished/  Good luck with his build man!  \m/


    Yes that is a nice looking case I like CM cases and the storm are nice looking.

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/26 04:53:56 (permalink)

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    Re: New PC 2015/11/26 06:16:06 (permalink)
    Excellent choices and prices. You can't go wrong with GSkill memory. GSkill is always my first choice and they never let me down. 
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    Re: New PC 2015/11/28 05:01:22 (permalink)
    I like to Thank everyone for the help.
     

    HAF-X// Asus Z68 Deluxe//I7 2600K//G.Skill 1866 xmp//EVGA 580 3GB//Corsair AX1200//Corsair SSD 180/120//Corsair H50//monitor OverLord Tempest OC PP//Windows 7 PRO
     
     
     
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