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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/10 01:04:27 (permalink)
The X34 seems excellent, even though I just got the XB270HU it's time for an upgrade.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/10 09:58:40 (permalink)
I'm new to this topic and haven't read the past comments, so please forgive me if it was asked and answered, but any thoughts on GSYNC or DP's Adaptive Sync? I too want to switch from surround but I'm interested in a display that's at least the 1440p equivalent, >60Hz, and has some form of variable refresh rate. Thoughts?

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/10 11:00:16 (permalink)
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I'm new to this topic and haven't read the past comments, so please forgive me if it was asked and answered, but any thoughts on GSYNC or DP's Adaptive Sync? I too want to switch from surround but I'm interested in a display that's at least the 1440p equivalent, >60Hz, and has some form of variable refresh rate. Thoughts?




It isn't long and well worth reading.
 
In summation, most agree that the 21:9 format is great.  Nearly all agree that GSYNC is excellent when you dip below 60FPS.  Freesync doesn't work on NVIDIA cards.  1440p is a fantastic upgrade over 1080p.  Cost may or may not be a concern.  I purchased a Dell u3415w about a month ago and run it at 75Hz with no issues, but I don't have the luxury of GSYNC or the 100Hz they state on the new monitors.  It is, however, currently selling for under $800 and I decided I could add another Titan for a little bit more money than buying the GSYNC monitor and stay above 60FPS all the time.  Others would rather have the lower latency that is reported with this screen (all are an LG screen) on the Acer monitor.  The Acer Predator finally comes out next month in the States as far as we can tell.  The ASUS version comes out probably around Christmas.
 
Whew.  Read through it and then throw in your thoughts/questions.  I'm sure I missed something in there anyway.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/11 00:40:10 (permalink)
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It isn't long and well worth reading.
 
In summation, most agree that the 21:9 format is great.  Nearly all agree that GSYNC is excellent when you dip below 60FPS.  Freesync doesn't work on NVIDIA cards.  1440p is a fantastic upgrade over 1080p.  Cost may or may not be a concern.  I purchased a Dell u3415w about a month ago and run it at 75Hz with no issues, but I don't have the luxury of GSYNC or the 100Hz they state on the new monitors.  It is, however, currently selling for under $800 and I decided I could add another Titan for a little bit more money than buying the GSYNC monitor and stay above 60FPS all the time.  Others would rather have the lower latency that is reported with this screen (all are an LG screen) on the Acer monitor.  The Acer Predator finally comes out next month in the States as far as we can tell.  The ASUS version comes out probably around Christmas.
 
Whew.  Read through it and then throw in your thoughts/questions.  I'm sure I missed something in there anyway.




Hope 21:9 isn't short lived & we don't regret it next year or so when 30"-35", IPS,VA etc... 4k-5k 100hz+ g-sync, free-sync displays start coming out.
At least the display market is moving finally, maybe heavily gaming, enthusiast influenced?
I wouldn't go below 30" for 4k though too small icons, need to let 4k & above stretch it's legs....

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/11 09:05:01 (permalink)
Well, this is all bad.  Apparently the monitor ships with 60Hz and can be overclocked to 100Hz... at the user's risk.  This is being reported in multiple locations.  There are several that say they are having zero issues with doing so, and others that it isn't so smooth.  I think this is going to be another roulette with QA like the last Acer gaming monitors.

 
Others are having problems with whine from the electronics in the monitor and it is not the speakers.  Maybe the choke didn't get insulated?  If not, another QA issue.  Some have half of the screen 'yellowish' and others have color problems.  There are some that are reporting things are good, but I am aggravated at the whole 60Hz thing.  I can absolutely say that I wouldn't purchase this until there are reviews from reputable sites (like TFT Central or Tom's) regardless.
 
EDIT:  It looks like TFT is reporting they have one to review.
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/11 09:56:58 (permalink)
I've been following the PG348Q(asus) and the X34(acer) very closely. Basically they are both racing to get their 34 inch curved g-sync monitors out first. The refresh rates on both have been bouncing back and forth, but the last I read was the the Asus was @75hz and the Acer was @100hz. Neither of these numbers can be confirmed from the manufacturers at the moment so as far as I am concerned it's all rumors until we have confirmed listing either on the websites or amazon/newegg tech specs. We were supposed to hear more information in September with a possible release date, but nothing yet except for some more proto-type showings.
 
I would argue that 75hz wouldn't make me buy one, but 100hz would. I would also be very hesitant to buy anything from Acer again. I was just not happy with the quality control that I experienced when I tired out the xb270hu for a few days and it arrived with many many dead pixels. I am in the belief that if I am dropping $800+ on a product, it should be 100% crystal clear perfect. I also shouldn't have to buy a special service like newegg's premier just to refund the monitor without restocking fees etc.(rant over)
 
Let's hope that Asus comes out with the 100hz version! I'm gonna predict a $1599 price point. Anything less than that and I will be very happy.
 

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/11 10:07:07 (permalink)
A guy on Overclock that actually is happy with his posted some pics.  No where on the box does it give any kind of refresh rate...
 

 
You can see in this image the frame counter in the upper right corner showing 100Hz.
 


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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/14 14:59:36 (permalink)
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/news_archive/34.htm#asus_rog_preorder
 
Dates/prices for the ROG monitors in the UK as an FYI.  US has typically been at or before.  We shall see.
 
Note that neither of the 21:9 from Acer or ASUS have ULMB as originally reported.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/14 15:05:22 (permalink)
Awesome find Shaman. Now when Pascal comes out, hopefully we can make complete circles out of curved gaming monitors. :)

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/14 15:13:24 (permalink)
New monitor > change gpu to keep it 144fps > 4k 144hz monitor > change gpu again .... And i remember they just release 8k monitor in Japan .... :(( .

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/17 05:00:44 (permalink)
www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_predator_x34.htm
 
TFT Central Twitter account had a posted update about a firmware fix for the blue banding issue on all the monitors and that was their only complaint.  If you are willing to play the lottery game, this may be a solid purchase.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/17 12:02:35 (permalink)
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www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_predator_x34.htm
 
TFT Central Twitter account had a posted update about a firmware fix for the blue banding issue on all the monitors and that was their only complaint.  If you are willing to play the lottery game, this may be a solid purchase.




Yup, I'm in on day one. 100hz is a requirement for me and it seems the other issues have been ironed out. My secondary monitor (one of my Benq xl2420t) is 120/100hz, and I need to match refresh rates to allow the GPU to downclock. So this thing is perfect now. I'm willing to roll the dice to get one that will do 100hz. 

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/23 08:19:43 (permalink)
Looks like TFT just updated the review to show that the firmware pushed from Acer fixes the blue banding issue.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/25 11:48:29 (permalink)
I posted a msg on the US Acer Facebook page a couple of days ago, asking if the X34 was still going to be released mid October. Acer responded by saying yes it will be available mid Oct. I just hope they don't push it back again.
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/26 06:40:35 (permalink)
As long as these are as advertised, I have no problem with delays. I would rather see delays than defects hitting the market...

 
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/26 10:59:37 (permalink)
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As long as these are as advertised, I have no problem with delays. I would rather see delays than defects hitting the market...


We have already had delays, it was suppose to be released in July. Had it only been delayed a month that would have been expected but not 3 months especially when they already had the monitor finalized. This is not a video game.
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/26 18:20:28 (permalink)
Had they released when they were supposed to, I'd probably own one.  I ended up with the u3415w running it at 75Hz and am very pleased.  Not to mention that the u3415w is on sale at Newegg until tomorrow night for $699 and there is a $50 rebate if you do that sort of thing.  I was happy at $800 when I purchased it, but I would strongly consider it over the X34 were it available today.
 
If everyone gets the X34 or PG348Q and is floored, I guess I will consider 'upgrading' at that point, but I am hoping to make it until next summer when I expect the next gen to start rolling out to include the new 21:9 100Hz Samsung panel.  And I'll probably need the new Pascal card... sigh.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/27 00:12:36 (permalink)
The VA can hit higher refresh rates than the IPS... However, with both, my issue would be input lag and the pixel response. The refresh rate on the panel is just one thing that makes up a good gaming monitor. 
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/27 09:08:35 (permalink)
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I've been playing around with my Titan now for a few weeks and I've decided to move from 1080p surround to 21:9 at 3440x1440. Here's why: Acer X34.
 
The framerate on next-gen games like GTA5, Shadows of Mordor are pretty solid on reasonable settings, but I'm ready for the full eye candy experience and I'm thinking going to 21:9 actually reduces pixel requirements without sacrificing much immersion.
 
This was the X34 display that, until a few weeks ago was called the the XR341CK (what a mouthful), now it's just the X34. I'd seen everwhere that it was going to be a 75hz panel, until I ran accross this article today claiming X34 is 100hz, and the X35 is 144hz. Not sure if believe it, but the article was just posted today, so presumably they'd have the most recent info. I dunno, still skeptical, DP bandwidth and all. Can anyone confirm?
 
From the article:
 
Acer emphasizes gaming, putting its Predator branding and some extra design flourishes on its new X34 monitor. LED lights adorn the underside of the screen, allowing you to customize the rhythm of their pulsations, and the whole thing is styled in a typically aggressive and macho fashion. The company has also overclocked the refresh rate from 75Hz to 100Hz, added two DTS-certified 7W speakers, and made the stand height- and tilt-adjustable. This package won't come cheap, with Acer indicating a price of over $1,000 for a launch in August.
Basically, it says the X34 is 3440x1440 is IPS at 100hz, and the X35 is 3440x1440 is a VA panel at 144hz. That's news to me, and I've been following this stuff pretty closely.  
 
 
Also, anyone else go from 1080p surround to 21:9? About the same immersion quality? Worth the reduction in width?
I'm seeing 60-75fps in GTA5 and SOM, so I'm thinking 80-90fps on 3440x1440 with the same settings.


 
It is 75hz and over clockable to 100hzs you can over clock any monitor to a degree.
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/27 10:06:56 (permalink)
acer.com/predator/en_US/predator_x34.html
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/27 12:26:36 (permalink)
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The VA can hit higher refresh rates than the IPS... However, with both, my issue would be input lag and the pixel response. The refresh rate on the panel is just one thing that makes up a good gaming monitor. 




I don't disagree.  My comment was more the fact that others are taking an interest in this panel size.  Up to this point, that LG panel found in the X34, the PG348Q, the U3415W and every LG has been the only option in the IPS along with a VA 60Hz panel from Samsung.  Maybe this gets better in the next generation with some feeling of competition between the vendors.
 
I want another monitor to come out that makes me feel that I have to upgrade again.  This resolution and size is fantastic.  I've managed to only upgrade my video card since the summer of 2013.  The next generation of Intel will probably do it for me along with the NVMe drives and DDR4.  But the monitor is where you see it all...

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/09/27 12:30:50 (permalink)
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acer.com/predator/en_US/predator_x34.html




Yes.  Looks good.  We linked that back in comment #57.  Still have my moments where I think I need to upgrade now though I do like my Dell.  My wife laughs and asks if both are going to fit on my desk.  She knows that I have a problem with tech.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/10/08 09:07:30 (permalink)
Available for pre-order at Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009869&cm_mmc=gamecrate-_-Article-_-acerx34-_-NA
 
They sold out their initial stock (I GOT ONE!), but stated in the comments on a review post that more would be available next week. Ships 10/13/15.
 
Soon as I get it I'll hook it up and give my impressions here with the Titan X. I've sold two of my Benq xl2420t monitors, so it'll just be the X34 and one Benq as a secondary. 

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/10/08 09:31:04 (permalink)
Good deal.  I check every day and hadn't been able to look today.
 
It is supposed to come in next week?  Excellent.  Will be most excited to hear your opinions.  Hopefully you win the lottery on the first go.
 
I see that they have it listed as the XR34.  I also notice that they did not put it under Premier like the last Acer.  I guess they learned their lesson.

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/10/08 10:26:17 (permalink)
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Good deal.  I check every day and hadn't been able to look today.
 
It is supposed to come in next week?  Excellent.  Will be most excited to hear your opinions.  Hopefully you win the lottery on the first go.
 
I see that they have it listed as the XR34.  I also notice that they did not put it under Premier like the last Acer.  I guess they learned their lesson.




Yup, and despite it being $1300, it was only available for pre-order for about 8 hours before it switched to auto-notify. Safe to say people are excited for this monitor. Should have it by next weekend. 
 
I like my chances, I know what to look for (banding, dead pixels, etc) so if it's anything less than what I want, back it goes. 
 
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/10/12 07:03:28 (permalink)
Newegg status changed to "Packaging" and my credit card has been charged. Looks like they'll be shipping out tomorrow afterall. Gonna be a good weekend. 

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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/10/15 10:24:21 (permalink)
Very Excited to hear your review of the x34. I signed up for auto-notify on NewEgg.
 
What's this I hear about it not being covered under Premier? I wouldn't buy this unless I could buy it with the protections that Premier allows.(free returns, no restocking etc.)
 
I purchased the XB270HU back in the day and was just disappointed with the quality control.(several burned out pixels included one huge cluster.) However, it was gorgeous to play games on and so smooth.

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Asus Z97-Pro Mobo
i7 4790k clocked at 4.7ghz using tower cooler
32gb 1600mhz ddr3 ram
EVGA Titan X SC
240gb SSD
PB287Q Monitor
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad - Copper 750W(825W Peak)
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/10/15 10:52:10 (permalink)
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Very Excited to hear your review of the x34. I signed up for auto-notify on NewEgg.
 
What's this I hear about it not being covered under Premier? I wouldn't buy this unless I could buy it with the protections that Premier allows.(free returns, no restocking etc.)
 
I purchased the XB270HU back in the day and was just disappointed with the quality control.(several burned out pixels included one huge cluster.) However, it was gorgeous to play games on and so smooth.




Should be getting it today. I've taken tomorrow off work for car detailing and monitor ogling, so I should have some time. 

Processor: Intel i7-6700K
GPU: EVGA GTX 1080ti SC2 (11G-P4-6593-KR)
RAM: 16GB G.Skill DDR4-3000 
Motherboard: Asus Z170 Ranger
SSD: 400GB Intel 750 Series
Power: EVGA 850w P2
Monitor: Acer X34 @100Hz G-Sync
OS: Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Dog: Corgi, Air Cooled w/Tongue Heatsink
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Re: Moving from 1080p Surround to New Acer 21:9@100hz, 144hz? 2015/10/16 08:00:36 (permalink)
So how is the monitor Meric?  


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