agent8


LOL! Welcome to the world of bleeding edge tech. That's why I never buy top of the line cards upon first release. I think at this stage, monitor awesome just happens to be ahead of video card awesome. You can get high resolution, high refresh rate, true 8-bit color output, adaptive sync, or affordability. Pick up to three.

COL-KNIGHT
Let me ask this. I have 3 sli slots, 2 can run the 16 but running all 3 drops down to 4, my second 16 sli is blocked by my pci express sound so I really don't know how to go any better then we're I'm at now.

agent8
I have heard that overclocking a monitor is counter-productive creating more problems than it's worth.

jasonkresge

agent8
I have heard that overclocking a monitor is counter-productive creating more problems than it's worth.

Depends on the monitor. The particular model references above is a reliable overclocker, but I wouldn't expect 120hz from it. The ones that can hit that number are extremely rare. 96-110 is typical for that particular monitor.

jasonkresge

Refugee47

agent8
I have heard that overclocking a monitor is counter-productive creating more problems than it's worth.

I have a QNIX at 120hz with zero problems.

Just keep in mind that that's your experience, and results may vary. While some QNIX 2710s CAN hit 120hz, the vast majority cannot without some form of degradation and/or frame skipping. If you got one that hits 120 with no issues, KEEP IT! They're very rare.
 
That said, it's even rarer for one to not hit at least 96, with most falling between 96-110 without issue. This is a good monitor, and it's at the top of my short list for my next monitor (as a stop-gap before I go full adaptive sync).

jasonkresge

Refugee47




I honestly dont notice any difference in games between 110 and 120 but I keep it at 120 just because it can . With no dead pixel Its the best monitor for the money IMO .

You just have to be cautious about recommending these, for the following reasons:
120hz - this is NOT a guaranteed overclock. Buy it for stock 60hz, be happy with anything better. It's a lottery.
No dead pixels - From web based testimonials, a LOT of these have dead/stuck pixels. It's just up to the user to find them and/or care about them.
Warranty - in most cases, none (there's a website that sells them at a premium and will give them a warranty)
Returns/exchanges - You're not getting these from Amazon or Newegg direct. You're buying through third party sellers through those marketplaces, Ebay, and others. In most cases, YOU are responsible for return shipping for returns/exchanges. That's not cheap.
 
Buying these monitors is generally a good experience. But if you're one of the many who gets a bad panel, are you prepared to deal with the hassle? Let's be clear. You got a panel that seems to have no dead pixels and overclocks to 120hz. Yes, you're right, it's the best monitor for the money. But what if you didn't win that lottery? How would you feel?

jasonkresge

Refugee47
I told you to go read reviews because what your saying doesn't match the vast majority of reviews . Most of what you said is true about overclocking and warranty but saying that getting a monitor with no dead pixels is "rare" is not true .

Most people cannot identify a dead/stuck pixel on a 1440p 27" display due to the size of pixels. For those who do this sort of thing and test these panels, they've found that the majority have 1-3 dead or stuck pixels. I'd be willing to bet your monitor that if you let me test it in person, I'd find flaws with it, either with a dead/stuck pixel, or frame skipping and the true limit to its overclocked refresh rate.
 
Different people are more or less perceptive with different things. I notice (to a fault) tearing, backlight bleed, and stuck pixels. I'm not sensitive to framerate adjustments over 60hz, and certain forms of micto-stutter. So if a person is good at identifying dead/stuck pixels (like me) reads your post, they may come away disappointed if they followed your advice.
 
Again, the point of my post was never to say that you were wrong, but to highlight the fact that these panels are a lottery. LG/Samsung/AOU make these panels for their respective customers (or their own displays), and the A+ and A quality panels go to tier 1 and tier 2 OEMs. The A- panels end up here. You are getting a panel with at least one verified flaw. The question is, will you notice it and will you care?

jasonkresge

Refugee47



Like you said most people cant and dont notice one or two dead pixels but OP If you can find a better monitor for 250 bucks definitely go for it .

Ok, but do you understand the difference between "I don't notice dead pixels," and "It has zero dead pixels"? Here is why that distinction matters:
 
I can see dead pixels. They drive me nuts. I look for displays that don't have them, and I have returned displays that do have them. If I took you at your word, I may have ordered that display expecting zero dead pixels. I would most likely ended up being disappointed. Now, if you had said, "I don't notice dead pixels on mine," I would be inclined to research further before buying, and if I had bought it and wasn't happy, I wouldn't hold you responsible for misleading me.
 
As I said, these are panel lotteries. If/when I order mine, I'm hoping that its flaw is low BLB and/or minor color uniformity variance. I can personally live with those. Since they're not designed to overclock, the inability to do so would not be a flaw that prevents it from being an A+ panel. That pretty much leaves dead/stuck pixels, and that's the one flaw I personally cannot stand. So right now I'm researching which seller to go through based on return/exchange/warranty policies and determining how much extra I want to pay for said policy. If it's too much, I'd rather just hold out for a new panel if/when NV finally joins the Free-Sync bandwagon, or a good panel that supports both G-Sync and FreeSync.
 
I'm also looking for a 4k panel that doesn't use some form of scaling for 1080p, but so far, the ones I've looked at all use some form of scaling which degrades image quality and introduces additional input lag. But that's a separate topic and I've only begun this search :)

COL-KNIGHT
Let me ask this. I have 3 sli slots, 2 can run the 16 but running all 3 drops down to 4, my second 16 sli is blocked by my pci express sound so I really don't know how to go any better then we're I'm at now.

COL-KNIGHT
well I use the Astro AS50 headset, Don't know if that could do with out the sound card or not? Might just buy a more high end mobo also