bdary
Using your search box in Win10, can you search for a file on "your own PC" without it also going to Bing for results?  In other words, can you restrict searches locally on your own PC or will it always use the internet for results?
 
If you're running say Nero for example for photo and/or video editing, do you get ocassional popups (notifications) telling you there is an app in the store for that?

James_L

notuptome2004
We have had Ad supported games for years  mobile or non mobile heck   i just started playing  Heros of the storm  by Blizzard   and it is Ad supported heck you will find all sorts of stuff Ad supported  now days windows phone Android  IOs  and  on Pc so don't  give me this  is a indication on windows 10   Because it is  on other platforms  not just windows 10  

Regardless of which platform the AD supported applications are present on it does not lend to the fact that Microsoft is vastly changing their revenue stream by allowing not only ad based applications but providing information as to the user's preferences, search streams and activities to known metadata brokers within the OS itself. This paves the way for ad injected desktop interruptions and inconveniences to users who, by and large, just want an OS to play their games on without any interaction or invasion of their personal information. Yes, I know the argument as to 'what is safe or private anymore' as the industry that I work in is deeply involved in that realm. In either case I think, for the most part, users of an OS should have an expectation of stability, privacy and responsiveness given the amount of time and experience that Microsoft has. A person can choose to install an ad supported application but one should not be forced by an upgrade to give up their privacy or rights to customize their system in the manner they see fit. I will reference the following: Microsoft Windows 10 Terms and License Agreement Small Print.
 
 More of the recent users of the OS and smart devices may not see a problem with these kinds of things. Many of the others who have been around for a while since the iterations of Windows originally produced would see this in a vastly different viewpoint.

notuptome2004
i been using windows since windows 1.0  and this does not effect me  .  in windows 10  you can  turn off  any setting you want that you think may or may not  phone home to MS about  your stuff  it is fully yours to customize . and since that  solitaire game is  in fact a xbox live  game   it is meant to be connected.  oh and  windows is always connected  connection anyways  as someone  pointed out earlier  a down side 

agent8
Again, you are comparing "Heroes of the storm" and "all sorts of stuff AD supported now" with an operating system. A fair comparison would be, "android, windows 7, windows 8, Apple OSX has ads bundled with it. Alas, that comparison, as far as I know is flawed. The closest thing I have seen is maybe A Samsung tablet or an Acer tablet with bloatware that may have ads on it but not Android itself. Please correct me if I am wrong here.
 
Not comparing games that are ad supported that tweens download and use their moms credit card to play to win, we are talking about an Operating system with a game that is pre-bundled and essentially part of windows. If Windows movie maker was on my computer and it had an ad covering the toolbar, I would be pissed too.

bdary

James_L

bdary
Using your search box in Win10, can you search for a file on "your own PC" without it also going to Bing for results?  In other words, can you restrict searches locally on your own PC or will it always use the internet for results?
 
If you're running say Nero for example for photo and/or video editing, do you get ocassional popups (notifications) telling you there is an app in the store for that?

Generally speaking I believe that Microsoft Bing will be the overall desktop search provider for items outside your system. If the normal search indexing is running in the background it should return those results and then, failing to find it, show results from internet based search queries. If it utilizes the same settings as Windows 8/8.1 did for the desktop search you should be able to change that utilizing the Microsoft Edge search provider settings. Set Google, Startpage or whatever engine you want for that. Your mileage may vary depending on how locked down Microsoft decides that the Home version needs to be.

Thanks for the response.  I was asking those questions to start possible further discussion.  In my experience with every preview build after the first few, you could not search "locally only".  Even using FF as my default browser and Ixquick as my search engine, my searches yielded results from Bing which weren't even  relevent in most cases.  The search results would come back with the file I was looking for along with a bunch of garbage (imo) from Bing.  I don't like that.  When I search for something I know is on one of my drives, I don't want it broadcast to Bing.  When I want to do an internet search, I'll use my search engines search box.
 
My Nero example is another thing I don't like about Win10.  The ocassional notification (pop-up) saying "we have an app for that in the store" when using 3rd party software.  Obviously if the OS knows when I run 3rd party software and will give me notifications about apps in their store, the OS has to keeping track of these things?
 
I can't speak for the latest build or the past few as I quit running builds as of 10130.  I saw things only heading further in a direction I don't care for.
 
No real complaints about stability or performance of the OS itself.
  

loveha
I have a year to claim my copy if I understand right. So no rush.

notuptome2004
i been using windows since windows 1.0  and this does not effect me  .  in windows 10  you can  turn off  any setting you want that you think may or may not  phone home to MS about  your stuff  it is fully yours to customize . and since that  solitaire game is  in fact a xbox live  game   it is meant to be connected.  oh and  windows is always connected  connection anyways  as someone  pointed out earlier  a down side 

notuptome2004
you have always been able  to delay  windows updates to install since windows  vista  but  10 allows ya to delay  when to install them and same with Home  version  you can delay install as long as you want keep setting the time further and further out   as i have  done many time during the insider builds .  
despite the update  thing it had preventing  not many of  anyone from upgrading. so your to picky you really are  you know  yes  i get it you don't want a driver update  because  many it is not  new  or it is an older one  unless  it breaks your system  to the point of being non functional  then  why is  it an issue.  

notuptome2004
i been using windows since windows 1.0  and this does not effect me  .  in windows 10  you can  turn off  any setting you want that you think may or may not  phone home to MS about  your stuff  it is fully yours to customize . and since that  solitaire game is  in fact a xbox live  game   it is meant to be connected.  oh and  windows is always connected  connection anyways  as someone  pointed out earlier  a down side 

notuptome2004
the pop up thing is nothing new as windows 8 did that as well i just ignore it .  i have ran a few builds myself and it only got better .  mosyt  would agree on that tho some dont  but the RTM build the final build  is rather good  no issues   at all 

Nereus

notuptome2004
i been using windows since windows 1.0  and this does not effect me  .  in windows 10  you can  turn off  any setting you want that you think may or may not  phone home to MS about  your stuff  it is fully yours to customize . and since that  solitaire game is  in fact a xbox live  game   it is meant to be connected.  oh and  windows is always connected  connection anyways  as someone  pointed out earlier  a down side 

notuptome2004
you have always been able  to delay  windows updates to install since windows  vista  but  10 allows ya to delay  when to install them and same with Home  version  you can delay install as long as you want keep setting the time further and further out   as i have  done many time during the insider builds .  
despite the update  thing it had preventing  not many of  anyone from upgrading. so your to picky you really are  you know  yes  i get it you don't want a driver update  because  many it is not  new  or it is an older one  unless  it breaks your system  to the point of being non functional  then  why is  it an issue.  

notuptome2004
i been using windows since windows 1.0  and this does not effect me  .  in windows 10  you can  turn off  any setting you want that you think may or may not  phone home to MS about  your stuff  it is fully yours to customize . and since that  solitaire game is  in fact a xbox live  game   it is meant to be connected.  oh and  windows is always connected  connection anyways  as someone  pointed out earlier  a down side 

notuptome2004
the pop up thing is nothing new as windows 8 did that as well i just ignore it .  i have ran a few builds myself and it only got better .  mosyt  would agree on that tho some dont  but the RTM build the final build  is rather good  no issues   at all 

You're wrong. About everything.
 

 

agent8
A good read. This part alone will keep me from upgrading to 10 on all my other computers.
 
"Summing up these 45 pages, one can say that Microsoft basically grants itself very broad rights to collect everything you do, say and write with and on your devices in order to sell more targeted advertising or to sell your data to third parties,” warned EDRi. “Each user on a device will be assigned a unique advertising ID."
 
and then "Microsoft will collect almost all of your data, ranging from location, calendar, apps, services, browsing and search history, and “data from your emails and text messages, who you call, your contacts and how often you interact with them on your device.” 
 
The whole thing feels weird to me. I know many terms and agreements have some scary language but not like this

bobmitch
I imagine you can upgrade for free to Windows 10.  Then after you run your first set of updates, etc...the machine should be recognized by Microsoft.  Then...put your original OS back on...and install Win 10 in a dual boot.  Would be interesting.  If Windows updates mess up 10, you still have your original OS.

Scarlet-Tech
I am out of state. I want to try 10, but reading about the frustrations some people are having, I am going to hold off a little while longer. I think it looks good, I just want to wait for it to be in a slightly better state.

notuptome2004
very interesting    
http://www.neowin.net/new...67-million-pcs-already