Sounds to me that Windows 10 is going to be the next Vista disaster. Good luck to you all.

I am going to err on the side of caution and wait. Nothing in life is free. They have a year to get all their ducks in a row and then maybe I will jump on board.

The reason I ask this because this autoupdate thing is going to turn off users types like my uncle from upgrading to win10. He loves the gaming PC i built him, loves to game on his PC, but doesn't want to deal with the technical aspects of PC gaming and windows in general. He doesn't care to know what FXAA or Ansio. filtering is or does, he justs downloads the game, chooses the default graphics settings the game sets, and off he goes. Heck, after three years of PC gaming, I just got him comfortable doing a clean, custom Nvidia driver install with only the driver and physix. If I can just set the tool to "never" install windows update drivers from Nvidia, it might not scare off this type of user on having to identify cryptic looking driver updates to block.

On my home systems I am waiting until the OS is more stable/viable from a customization standpoint. For my clients I have recommended to not upgrade at all considering their software most likely does not support the new OS. If, after a time, Microsoft allows more control over the OS and it's updating schedule/types then I will consider my upgrade. Until then I have my 'reserved' copy waiting and will set a timer to ensure I don't miss out on my ISO build so I can install a fresh, clean, build.
 

Pgcmoore
how much for 4 Enterprise licenses?

 
Windows 10 Enterprise is available through the corporate VDI and SA licenses. Not available (from what I understand) to the general public. If you have a volume license with software assurance then you have this available but get no discounts and it's a per device license.

I know my language in the following will have to be worded very carefully so here goes;
 
It seems that part of the reason Microsoft is pushing W10 is because of the large rash of "non Genuine" copies going around. They have even stated that there will be a "deep discount" for those that are upgrading with a non genuine copy of 7 or whatever they are upgrading from. This sounds good in theory as it will have everyone safe with the most up to date protection/ updates and everyone will have a fresh start with the same OS. With all these forced updates, privacy issues and everything else, I can almost see that this will make the problem worse.
 
Maybe Windows 10 better utilizes your cpu and you have better fps in games but with all the nonsense surrounding it, I can see why someone would want to alter Windows 10, cut out all the crap and then share it for free. Then they have the same problem all over again. I know it would be harder since it seems Windows 10 is pushing an "always connected" type of OS but where there is a will....
 
In 6 months from now if all the issues are the same, some kid is going to be wondering; "I have Call of Dooty 83 / BattleField 5: Compton Battles / GTA: Kill your parents 3 ect, ect and I want to have a better experience by getting Windows 10. I could upgrade for free but have all these issues or I can go on this other site and also get it for free without the issues." Since they are both "free", there might not be a moral dilemma for many.
That could all be circumvented if Microsoft would do it right to begin with.

 
Cancelled 'free' 'upgrade' on my desktop, laptop, and wife's desktop, because of the Windows Update issues with 3rd party hardware & software. Also dubious about MS deciding what I can and cannot install on my rig (if that is true).
 
IF Windows Update was mandatory for operating system security updates only, I'd be ok with that, but not for everything, no way.
 
 

notuptome2004

Nereus
 
Cancelled 'free' 'upgrade' on my desktop, laptop, and wife's desktop, because of the Windows Update issues with 3rd party hardware & software. Also dubious about MS deciding what I can and cannot install on my rig (if that is true).
 
IF Windows Update was mandatory for operating system security updates only, I'd be ok with that, but not for everything, no way.
 
 

 
if it is  not one thing it is another  Microsoft involves  us in the Windows 10 development and creats an OS that  we should have had  After windows 7   and   just one thing ticks you all off and it is NO thanks all stick with my windows 7  1 thing  .  wow    i am sorry  but you cant please everyone you know   MS is not perfect  nore is everyone else  so live with  it deal with it    i myself rather have an updated OS   then be stuck  on a Previous version of windows that  in my own experiences so far is slower then windows 10  

 
 
notuptome2004,
 
I seem to remember when Win 8 was getting ready to be released you came out all over the place bragging how great 8 was going to be and how you ridiculed pretty much everyone (see example above) for not getting on the same platform as you. It wasn't long after that 8.1 came out and once again you were saying the same thing about 8.1. Now Win 10 is due to be released and here you are doing the wash, rinse and repeat act again.
 
Microsoft couldn't distance themselves from that fiasco fast enough. The people spoke with their non-purchases and horrible 1 and 2 star product reviews. One of the most common and very popular negative review was the start icon change. There were others also. Their sales were in the tank. XP even deserves an honorable mention here due to its popularity over 8.
 
Give it a rest already.

whiskers54

notuptome2004

Nereus
 
Cancelled 'free' 'upgrade' on my desktop, laptop, and wife's desktop, because of the Windows Update issues with 3rd party hardware & software. Also dubious about MS deciding what I can and cannot install on my rig (if that is true).
 
IF Windows Update was mandatory for operating system security updates only, I'd be ok with that, but not for everything, no way.
 
 

 
if it is  not one thing it is another  Microsoft involves  us in the Windows 10 development and creats an OS that  we should have had  After windows 7   and   just one thing ticks you all off and it is NO thanks all stick with my windows 7  1 thing  .  wow    i am sorry  but you cant please everyone you know   MS is not perfect  nore is everyone else  so live with  it deal with it    i myself rather have an updated OS   then be stuck  on a Previous version of windows that  in my own experiences so far is slower then windows 10  

 
 
notuptome2004,
 
I seem to remember when Win 8 was getting ready to be released you came out all over the place bragging how great 8 was going to be and how you ridiculed pretty much everyone (see example above) for not getting on the same platform as you. It wasn't long after that 8.1 came out and once again you were saying the same thing about 8.1. Now Win 10 is due to be released and here you are doing the wash, rinse and repeat act again.
 
Microsoft couldn't distance themselves from that fiasco fast enough. The people spoke with their non-purchases and horrible 1 and 2 star product reviews. One of the most common and very popular negative review was the start icon change. There were others also. Their sales were in the tank. XP even deserves an honorable mention here due to its popularity over 8.
 
Give it a rest already.

 
 
i had not been using windows 8  till it was relased but while windows  8 was not a success  guess what  it was supior and windows 8.1 Superior to windows 7 in performance that is why i ran windows 8/8.1  was the performance  and  10 pushes that furthor but windows 10  unlike  8 has very possit response   since  testing for nearly everyone and ther mother  Hek even my Mother loves windows 10 she even loves  Cortana    i put windows 10 insider preview builds on her system months ago to get her ready for it.   We are the ones who shaped windows 10   and while yess  not everyones vcoice was heard   on one thing or another  other voices  out wighed the few  on  a feature or idea over  another   so  live  with it.  Windows 10 is  and  will be evolved over time  and improve even more.  Next year will be an update to windows 10 called  right now Redstone i think   more features. 
 
 
Anyways i will use windows 10 cause it does everything and the kitchen sink  better then windows 8.1   and windows 7   and since i just got a 960GTX while back ago i am ready  for  Games that may possibly only be DX12  

notuptome2004

Nereus
 
Cancelled 'free' 'upgrade' on my desktop, laptop, and wife's desktop, because of the Windows Update issues with 3rd party hardware & software. Also dubious about MS deciding what I can and cannot install on my rig (if that is true).
 
IF Windows Update was mandatory for operating system security updates only, I'd be ok with that, but not for everything, no way.
 
 

 
if it is  not one thing it is another  Microsoft involves  us in the Windows 10 development and creats an OS that  we should have had  After windows 7   and   just one thing ticks you all off and it is NO thanks all stick with my windows 7  1 thing  .  wow    i am sorry  but you cant please everyone you know   MS is not perfect  nore is everyone else  so live with  it deal with it    i myself rather have an updated OS   then be stuck  on a Previous version of windows that  in my own experiences so far is slower then windows 10  

Shut up you little git.
 

Exxxtacy

notuptome2004

Nereus
 
Cancelled 'free' 'upgrade' on my desktop, laptop, and wife's desktop, because of the Windows Update issues with 3rd party hardware & software. Also dubious about MS deciding what I can and cannot install on my rig (if that is true).
 
IF Windows Update was mandatory for operating system security updates only, I'd be ok with that, but not for everything, no way.
 
 

 
if it is  not one thing it is another  Microsoft involves  us in the Windows 10 development and creats an OS that  we should have had  After windows 7   and   just one thing ticks you all off and it is NO thanks all stick with my windows 7  1 thing  .  wow    i am sorry  but you cant please everyone you know   MS is not perfect  nore is everyone else  so live with  it deal with it    i myself rather have an updated OS   then be stuck  on a Previous version of windows that  in my own experiences so far is slower then windows 10  

lol...ok, we get it..You love Microsoft, windows 10 is great for you, your Mom loves it, its all wonderful for you. Please stop projecting whats best for you, is whats best for other users, with your hard to read, confrontational word salads in every thread.

 
 
 
Sure  if you Say so dude . it has been   9 months that  5 millions + users such as  someone like You  have been testing windows 10 same as i did  why all of a sudden since Microsoft announced  Mandatory updates for Windows 10 Home users    back in March   nearly   4 months ago that all of a sudden people are complaining when it has been  upfront knowledge  for months  .  
 
 
and currently in every review i have seen  on most gaming sites  or related sites like  noone has made a complian as a Con on those  updates  for  even the Home version  least i have not seen  it has been nothing but postive on  10

agent8
Windows 7 "Slower" Really? Maybe I have been looking at the wrong sites. From what I have been reading, the difference is minimal at best. And if everyone was involved with building this perfect 10 Windows OS, I would think one of the very first things people would want is control over what does and doesn't get updated. I understand that things will gradually get better as they work out the kinks but I thought that was the whole point of all the beta testing. Maybe I expect to much but when tomorrow comes, I was looking for an end all-be all operating system that didn't have any bugs or last minute "gotcha" tricks. I was hoping for something that just worked the way I want it to and where I had control. I don't want to live in a world where I have to worry if someday I am going to have to pay to have updates or ads removed or worry that my no-cd crack "if you will" for an older game gets yanked because Microsoft deems it unsafe. Or have to disable my internet on multiple pc because I am having people come over to watch a movie on Netflix with my limited bandwidth. Who knows, in 6 months, I may be singing it's praises but for now, I'm staying with 7.

 
 
Well we have known about the mandatory updates for Windows 10 HOME  edition for over 4 months  so i dont see why it is now all of a sudden shock and Ahh  . as for Ads  windows 10 has no Ads   it is not Ad supported Free not sure why ya would  think it is .  and yes  Windows 8.1 is faster then windows  7 same goes for 10 being faster then windows 8.1   it is  under the hood improvements Microsoft made toi  windows 8.1  well windows 8 anyways   just as an example  but this is me  hopping in and out of games was faster  Alt tabing that is while  converting  videos   and such.
 
 
Anyways    Microsoft listened to the users  since last  October    windows 10  agian  is the way it is because of  the 5.5 millions insiders   enthusesest  and gamers alike . windows  10 is now upon us  and many already installing  based on comments in other  articles and comment sec tions 
 
 
Oh by the way  Windows  updates  be it home or Pro you can set a time to install the updates as you want   so 5 days from now say then 4 days in you can set it out further delaying updates  

seth89

agent8
Sure they made a "tool" to stop the updates for graphics cards but what about everything else? It was mentioned in another thread, what about if Micro-satan decides that it wants you to use some beta network driver and dorks your internet connection? I have to make several pit stops today to disable windows 10 upgrades on various builds I have done for people that don't want this crap. My real wish is that come midnight or whenever the apocalypse/dawn of machines thing happens that enough people change their mind and Microsoft comes to it's senses and changes some things.

Pit stops!?!!
Go to Citrix and get an account!
Your clients types in "fastsupport.com" and you get access to their machines.
 

Thank you. I was looking for something like this. As far as the Windows 10 being faster/better, I just don't see the reason to do it. Saying that there are "under the hood improvements" and that "games are faster" is not enough. Maybe Windows 10 is not "ad supported" but having to pay $1.49 a month to remove ads in solitaire that comes with Windows 10 is a heck of a start in that direction...

First, the topic is "Who is not upgrading to Windows and why," not "who loves Windows 10 and can join the fan club fastest."
 
Second, The only thing that video showed me is that A; That guy can't stay on the track too well and B; He had some improvement while using an ATI card. Being that Evga only makes Nvidea cards and we are in fact on an Evga thread, the point is moot and irrelevant.
 
Third, The initial release has an ad on "1 ghame". If that is any indication of what things are to come, then yes, I believe it to be a valid concern. The logic that many "android games are ad supported" is a true statement but relates to this conversation very little as this is an operating system and not a free version of Angry Birds, Avengers edition.
 
Lastly, in all sincerity, your unusual spacing, spelling and overall sentence structure has me concerned for the integrity of your keyboard or maybe it's Windows 10 assimilating control?

Using your search box in Win10, can you search for a file on "your own PC" without it also going to Bing for results?  In other words, can you restrict searches locally on your own PC or will it always use the internet for results?
 
If you're running say Nero for example for photo and/or video editing, do you get ocassional popups (notifications) telling you there is an app in the store for that?

agent8
First, the topic is "Who is not upgrading to Windows and why," not "who loves Windows 10 and can join the fan club fastest."
 
Second, The only thing that video showed me is that A; That guy can't stay on the track too well and B; He had some improvement while using an ATI card. Being that Evga only makes Nvidea cards and we are in fact on an Evga thread, the point is moot and irrelevant.
 
Third, The initial release has an ad on "1 ghame". If that is any indication of what things are to come, then yes, I believe it to be a valid concern. The logic that many "android games are ad supported" is a true statement but relates to this conversation very little as this is an operating system and not a free version of Angry Birds, Avengers edition.
 
Lastly, in all sincerity, your unusual spacing, spelling and overall sentence structure has me concerned for the integrity of your keyboard or maybe it's Windows 10 assimilating control?

 
 
 
We have had Ad supported games for years  mobile or non mobile heck   i just started playing  Heros of the storm  by Blizzard   and it is Ad supported heck you will find all sorts of stuff Ad supported  now days windows phone Android  IOs  and  on Pc so don't  give me this  is a indication on windows 10   Because it is  on other platforms  not just windows 10