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The auto update is a deal breaker for me. I want to choose what is installed on my pc. I hate upgrades also. I would rather pay for a dvd and do a fresh install than have a free upgrade.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 06:31:37
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 07:07:27
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I want FULL control not just "some" updates controlled and the language used by Microsoft sounds to me like they can disable whatever software they deem unsafe. Also, with my limited bandwidth, I don't want an update being done while I am streaming or doing something important. At the very least, I will wait till the car wreck is done and then upgrade but as of right now, I am going to avoid it.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 09:20:11
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I will go with 10 Pro just as I always have with XP Pro, Vista Business, 7 Ultimate, 8 Pro. You can turn auto-update off in Pro.
However, I may not upgrade our store POS computer from 7 to 10 because I don't know if the POS software and POS hardware will work. I'll be setting up a test computer to see if it all works.
WMC was another reason I was not going to upgrade, but since I've switched to MediaPortal I can live without.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 09:22:20
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im waiting, i didn't wait before but i also never had an RTM crash a computer this often, even Vista ran better
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 09:38:43
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Apparently even Pro users can't disable windows updates, only "delay" them. Now I'll have to wait a bit because I do not want updates being installed automatically.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 09:51:04
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Apparently even Pro users can't disable windows updates, only "delay" them. Now I'll have to wait a bit because I do not want updates being installed automatically.
oh we can block them, i have an idea on that one lol. Its call create a firewall rule to block the windows update service from going outside your network, but do it with a 3rd party firewall :P
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 09:56:06
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+2, auto-updates I won't even touch Win10 till, you can disable auto-update, and SP1/SP2
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ssj92
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 09:57:15
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Actually there's a script to block them, so I might just use that if I have to. It's basically a registry edit, so probably Home and Pro users can disable auto-updates.
I hated the force install driver updates, specifically the video card ones. Always broke something.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 10:30:49
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Haven't made up my mind, but I'd be likely forced into it (I was forced into 7 when I got a laptop). Because I run a lot of legacy games that need XP, I may do a dual-boot with Win7 since Win 8/8.1/10 lacks it outright. I like Windows Media Player, I don't like that I'm reading it won't be included with Windows 10. So more reason to stick with 7. I won't have access to DX12, but I don't game that much anymore. It isn't like I can't upgrade to Win10 later on, lol.
However, I may go the Win10 phone route, I hear it will include support for Android apps and it's media player will natively recognize playlists from the PC version.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 13:22:57
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Actually there's a script to block them, so I might just use that if I have to. It's basically a registry edit, so probably Home and Pro users can disable auto-updates.
I hated the force install driver updates, specifically the video card ones. Always broke something.
I have read on a few sites that there is language in the EULA that forbids any blocking of updates without MS approval. Doing so will cause MS to stop all updates to that computer. That includes security.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 13:26:42
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Not upgrading as of now...The auto update is the only reason. Once they do away with this policy that punishes advanced users, I will buy three copies. I use win 7 home premium on my systems and there is no way I'm accepting three "free" upgrades of Win 10 Home that auto updates with no control.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 13:28:43
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Win 7 works for me and I don't see the need to "Upgrade" the system to a lesser system. I still have 5 years support left on this and maybe MS might get their heads out of the light don't shine area in this time frame.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 13:34:19
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not sure yet.... how much for 4 Enterprise licenses?
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 15:27:30
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Win 7 works for me and I don't see the need to "Upgrade" the system to a lesser system. I still have 5 years support left on this and maybe MS might get their heads out of the light don't shine area in this time frame.
What I am going to do is take the upgrade, then clean install windows 7. That way I can install 10 later on down the road when I know everything has been worked out and it is safe.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 17:30:34
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canceled my preorder with newegg on pro version
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 20:19:27
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I see getting Win 10 as a must considering it is necessary to run DX12. But I think I will use my current computer with Win7 for using the internet, and then build a Skylake Win 10 system for offline gaming. Or maybe I will use it online and block all incoming traffic except for the few sites I visit regularly. One thing is for certain, I will not be doing any competitive online gaming on Win10 only to get lagged by updates being forced on my PC in the background; followed by the game closing down as windows restarts to apply the update.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 23:15:09
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You still schedule your restart guys, its not going to restart while your on there doing work.
Heck my copy suggests 10pm since I have never used this computer at that time since I put win 10 on it.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 23:41:41
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Ah, I have not tried it out to know. Irregardless having activity in the background if im playin a highly demanding game is still gonna cause performance issues, and if im playin online the autoupdate downloading in the background can ruin my ping putting me at a disadvantage. Best thing MS can do is to make available different modes. Set it to casual to enable autoupdating and all the background processes enabled, then performance mode where all the unnecessary background processes and autoupdating are off leaving nothing to interfere with your performance and or gaming experience. I stopped using antivirus progs back with win98 to eliminate all the annoyances.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/27 23:57:41
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Moving to General Software.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 02:04:24
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i am upgrading to it i see no reason NOt to upgrade it is fatser then windows 7 and windows 8.1 more secure and so what about the auto updates you can on windows 10 pro Defer those updates for long time and besides you can delay a restart for long awhile as you can delay it 5 days then on the 4th day delay it 5 more days and keep doing so . anyways they relased a new video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKxkTWa9Hd8 The windows 10 Experience
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 04:13:11
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i am upgrading to it i see no reason NOt to upgrade it is fatser then windows 7 and windows 8.1 more secure and so what about the auto updates you can on windows 10 pro Defer those updates for long time and besides you can delay a restart for long awhile as you can delay it 5 days then on the 4th day delay it 5 more days and keep doing so . anyways they relased a new video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKxkTWa9Hd8 The windows 10 Experience
I agree, if this is the only reason someone is not upgrading then they will be missing out. So far W10 looks sweet. Also its a Windows product, somebody will find a way to kill the "auto update", its not an Apple product. Also despite what some people think MS listens, all we have to do is create some noise about it and MS will remove the feature with SP1.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 04:13:11
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i am upgrading to it i see no reason NOt to upgrade it is fatser then windows 7 and windows 8.1 more secure and so what about the auto updates you can on windows 10 pro Defer those updates for long time and besides you can delay a restart for long awhile as you can delay it 5 days then on the 4th day delay it 5 more days and keep doing so . anyways they relased a new video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKxkTWa9Hd8 The windows 10 Experience
I agree, if this is the only reason someone is not upgrading then they will be missing out. So far W10 looks sweet. Also its a Windows product, somebody will find a way to kill the "auto update", its not an Apple product. Also despite what some people think MS listens, all we have to do is create some noise about it and MS will remove the feature with SP1.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 04:34:28
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notuptome2004
i am upgrading to it i see no reason NOt to upgrade it is fatser then windows 7 and windows 8.1 more secure and so what about the auto updates you can on windows 10 pro Defer those updates for long time and besides you can delay a restart for long awhile as you can delay it 5 days then on the 4th day delay it 5 more days and keep doing so . anyways they relased a new video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKxkTWa9Hd8 The windows 10 Experience
I agree,
if this is the only reason someone is not upgrading then they will be missing out. So far W10 looks sweet. Also its a Windows product, somebody will find a way to kill the "auto update", its not an Apple product.
Also despite what some people think MS listens, all we have to do is create some noise about it and MS will remove the feature with SP1.
Truth! People also don't realize that there are different levels of updating. You can get updates as soon as possible (fast ring) OR wait until it has become mandatory and proven to be stable (slow ring).
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 05:34:24
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I'm not understanding where Microsoft says you "have to" download these updates. Last I checked, I was able to select and deselect the updates I wanted. So, what's the problem downloading updates when you want to and don't want to? not to mention, you can also set it so it notifies you that updates are available, and install them when you're ready....And this is all on windows 7... I don't see anywhere in the guidelines that says "Microsoft is making you download these updates." If I'm missing something, please show me. I'm curious to know what some of you are doing to where you're "forced" to download the updates Microsoft provides.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 05:42:26
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Windows 10 is different than 7 with regard to updates. You can apparently disable some updates using a tool they released recently, but from what I've seen, my pc will install a new gpu driver at will. I was in the middle of playing a game when it crashed two days ago, then i noticed my gamma went bright (because it was removing the nvidia driver) and then went back to normal. When I checked, sure enough, it had just updated my video drivers without asking me anything. I have Windows 10 set to let me choose when to install these updates, so why that happened, I have no clue.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 05:49:37
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never mind. I'm probably going to end up going with Pro then like I always do. I was considering getting home because it's cheaper, but not anymore...I'll stick with Pro.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 06:25:26
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I am definitely upgrading an 8.1 pro rig on a non touch screen desktop and at this point may hold on to one of the preview rigs and remain an insider on that. As far as my win7 rigs, I'll wait until a whole lot of dust settles. I also have a Surface Pro 3 with 8.1 pro and will probably upgrade that as well but after the other 8.1 rig goes well and other SP3 owners report on it.
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Re: Who is not upgrading to windows 10 and why?
2015/07/28 06:31:52
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Sure they made a "tool" to stop the updates for graphics cards but what about everything else? It was mentioned in another thread, what about if Micro-satan decides that it wants you to use some beta network driver and dorks your internet connection? I have to make several pit stops today to disable windows 10 upgrades on various builds I have done for people that don't want this crap. My real wish is that come midnight or whenever the apocalypse/dawn of machines thing happens that enough people change their mind and Microsoft comes to it's senses and changes some things.
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