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2015/06/29 16:48:42 (permalink)
I can't for the life of me get a video card from EVGA with over a 70% ASIC score.
 
I picked up a 960 FTW 2 GB ACX 2.0 model today and it has a 65.5% Asic score
 
My Titan X SC that I rage sold had 65% ASIC as well
 
Last 3 cards were all between 65-67% Asic scores

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/29 16:56:00 (permalink)
    my first titan x SC is 76%. Second one was 59%.
    The 59% one drew more power and boosted lower than the 76% one.
    Returned it.
    Prepare for people to come in and claim that it doesn't matter.
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/29 17:13:15 (permalink)
    I guess I should count myself lucky I got a 73% 980ti Hybrid then? 
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/29 17:25:26 (permalink)
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    I guess I should count myself lucky I got a 73% 980ti Hybrid then? 




    I would be satisfied with that, but not overly thrilled.

     
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/29 19:44:29 (permalink)
    This should make you feel better. 
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/29 19:44:39 (permalink)
    Both my ti's are about 70% i guess that's about middle of the road?

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/29 20:04:49 (permalink)
    Eh. Better then mine. 4GB 960 FTW version with 60.6%
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/29 20:28:08 (permalink)
    So my bottom card has a higher score, should I swap them, everything is great now though, thoughts ?

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 00:05:47 (permalink)
    Brian, I tried doing that when I first got the Classy's, scores dropped so I changed them back. My lower scoring card has always be able to clock higher on air. Waterblocks are installed now thou and will be keeping them in the same order as before thou, be a pita to change after I get it back together.

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 00:57:54 (permalink)
    that's a real lottery, not sure whether introducing that ASIC quality number to the customer was a good idea.
     
    I count myself lucky, my first card was 76.5% (970 FTW) and the second one 85.5% (980 SC). 

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 01:40:23 (permalink)
    Ya, I think I`ll leave well enough, no crashes at all, Batman playing great at 60 fps, using 353.30 since day one.
     
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 01:42:24 (permalink)
    Never really cared about ASIC quality since I don't do much OC'ing but my 980 Ti Hybrid has 79.3% which is good I guess. Maybe I should try overclocking it. 

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 02:02:04 (permalink)
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    my first titan x SC is 76%. Second one was 59%.
    The 59% one drew more power and boosted lower than the 76% one.
    Returned it.
    Prepare for people to come in and claim that it doesn't matter.



    People will tell you it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter. You are just being entitled. You paid for a titan-x and you got a titan-x. No manufacturer will grant you card over a certain ASIC quality, or a certain overclocking headroom. What they grant you is that the card houses a specific GPU and its able to hit certain clocks. Now, should you have been sold a card that couldn't hit the clocks it was being advertised at then that would be a legitimate reason to return/RMA, but ASIC score should not.
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 02:09:55 (permalink)
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    my first titan x SC is 76%. Second one was 59%.
    The 59% one drew more power and boosted lower than the 76% one.
    Returned it.
    Prepare for people to come in and claim that it doesn't matter.



    People will tell you it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter. You are just being entitled. You paid for a titan-x and you got a titan-x. No manufacturer will grant you card over a certain ASIC quality, or a certain overclocking headroom. What they grant you is that the card houses a specific GPU and its able to hit certain clocks. Now, should you have been sold a card that couldn't hit the clocks it was being advertised at then that would be a legitimate reason to return/RMA, but ASIC score should not.


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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 02:14:24 (permalink)
     
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    I dont care what you think, go away. 


    If you aren't able to accept other opinions  and are only capable to defend yours with a behavior that would look out of place on anyone above the age of 7, you should seriously reconsider your stay on a place that is meant for people to communicate and share opinions 
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 02:16:54 (permalink)
    Yep, I`m not into OC graphics card at all, that`s why I bought the SC card. I`m more into CPU OCing and a perfectly working machine.

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 02:32:11 (permalink)
    I doesn't matter that much!
     
    I had two 980's, one was 77% the other 62% the difference was two bins - 26MHz.  They OC'd identically though!
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 02:41:51 (permalink)
    Don't feel bad, my 980ti i just got has a ASIC of 56.6%
    Its no big deal tho, it runs my NV Surround setup real nice
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 03:41:04 (permalink)
    On AMD Fury X card is not visible any more.
    I think reference cards with 70-75-80 ASIC are usually OK.
    I never had ASIC over 75%, but I can't change that.
    With anything over 70% for TITAN X I would be satisfied, same is with GTX980Ti,
    because that's reference board and my GTX580 reference with 75% ASIC work on clock GTX 580 Classified ULTRA.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 10:21:19 (permalink)
    So uhhh, does it really matter? Getting mixed research results.
     
    One of my 980ti hybrids is 57%, the other is 74.8%.
     
    I briefly tried OCing in SLI, was only able to push an extra 75mhz on the core, anything above would crash, but, more testing time required.

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 11:27:15 (permalink)
    My 2x titan x's, one is a 74 % and the other is a 76 %. This is the first time i ever heard or looked for ASIC scores, and my titans boost pretty decently by themselves with zero OC, just stock.

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 11:41:47 (permalink)
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    My 2x titan x's, one is a 74 % and the other is a 76 %. This is the first time i ever heard or looked for ASIC scores, and my titans boost pretty decently by themselves with zero OC, just stock.




    That's probably some of nice TITAN X's. Both are good ASIC.
    If you talk about normal TITAN X than you probably can pull 120-150MHz for games. 
    They probably boost on max possible boost for TITAN X? I didn't look how far they go on default clock under full load.
     
    Because of that I love Superclocked cards... Example you pay 1100e for card, than pay 50e more for 130MHz bigger clock...
    Card will be much faster, and you immediately evade some of worse models... in worse case someone could pay TITAN X and he boost on lower clock and OC max 50-60MHz example, hotter, etc...
    That's smalle chance for that, but with SC you can't get some 20-30% of worse cards. Because of that for me worth that 100%.
    I would never risk with so expensive cards when I could buy with 130MHz higher clock and my OC will be 20MHz that's 150 and fine.
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 12:03:56 (permalink)
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    So uhhh, does it really matter? Getting mixed research results.
     



    It only matters, at absolute most, for stock clocks and stock boost clocks. When it comes to actually overclocking, it doesn't matter. One card will always hold the other back, and that is why it is suggested to overclock them separate, starting with the Core first, find the limit of one card, then the other.  Once that is found, add them together and start working with the memory, which is where everyone tries to severely jump the gun most of the time.. you will see statements like "The G1 980Ti from Gigabyte get 8000mhz on the memory and my 980 only got 7500, so I tried to push it to 8000 since the G1 got that.. I feel robbed."  Most people won't account for major differences, and the brand of memory utilized, and will cause errors, failures, driver stoppage, and crashes by attempting to push the memory too far without ever verifying what the core can actually handle.
     
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 13:10:08 (permalink)
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    So uhhh, does it really matter? Getting mixed research results.
     



    It only matters, at absolute most, for stock clocks and stock boost clocks. When it comes to actually overclocking, it doesn't matter. One card will always hold the other back, and that is why it is suggested to overclock them separate, starting with the Core first, find the limit of one card, then the other.  Once that is found, add them together and start working with the memory, which is where everyone tries to severely jump the gun most of the time.. you will see statements like "The G1 980Ti from Gigabyte get 8000mhz on the memory and my 980 only got 7500, so I tried to push it to 8000 since the G1 got that.. I feel robbed."  Most people won't account for major differences, and the brand of memory utilized, and will cause errors, failures, driver stoppage, and crashes by attempting to push the memory too far without ever verifying what the core can actually handle.
     


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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/06/30 15:48:29 (permalink)
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    So uhhh, does it really matter? Getting mixed research results.
     



    It only matters, at absolute most, for stock clocks and stock boost clocks. When it comes to actually overclocking, it doesn't matter. One card will always hold the other back, and that is why it is suggested to overclock them separate, starting with the Core first, find the limit of one card, then the other.  Once that is found, add them together and start working with the memory, which is where everyone tries to severely jump the gun most of the time.. you will see statements like "The G1 980Ti from Gigabyte get 8000mhz on the memory and my 980 only got 7500, so I tried to push it to 8000 since the G1 got that.. I feel robbed."  Most people won't account for major differences, and the brand of memory utilized, and will cause errors, failures, driver stoppage, and crashes by attempting to push the memory too far without ever verifying what the core can actually handle.
     


    Thanks, I'll definitely try this out for myself and see what I come up with, when I find the time that is.

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/07/01 04:19:39 (permalink)
    I have a 980TI and my score was 69.3% and it still runs at 1475 mhz with factory volts. 


     
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/07/01 04:42:44 (permalink)
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    my first titan x SC is 76%. Second one was 59%.
    The 59% one drew more power and boosted lower than the 76% one.
    Returned it.
    Prepare for people to come in and claim that it doesn't matter.



    People will tell you it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter. You are just being entitled. You paid for a titan-x and you got a titan-x. No manufacturer will grant you card over a certain ASIC quality, or a certain overclocking headroom. What they grant you is that the card houses a specific GPU and its able to hit certain clocks. Now, should you have been sold a card that couldn't hit the clocks it was being advertised at then that would be a legitimate reason to return/RMA, but ASIC score should not.


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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/07/01 05:49:53 (permalink)
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    Thanks, I'll definitely try this out for myself and see what I come up with, when I find the time that is.



    Please let us know what you find :-)  
     
    I will say that SOME professional overclockers are trying to get high asic for LN2, and low asic for air testing, which is strange and completely backwards compared to what NVidia puts in that silly scale they have.  But, even they will admit that most of the time, it isn't 100% accurate to what a card can truly handle either way.  
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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/07/01 23:01:38 (permalink)
    I can't say I'm a lucky person but this time, I think I was slightly lucky :)
    First ever EVGA Card:

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    Re: Why do I always lose in the EVGA lottery game? 2015/07/01 23:06:19 (permalink)
    VegetaCreeper
    I just officially shipped out my Titan X.
     
    Goodbye  Nvidia....
     
    I'm buying a cheapy AMD card to use until the R9 390x comes out
     
    At least I didn't drop money on the EAR and extended warranty that I was planning on purchasing lol


     
    Thought you weren't coming back to NVidia, Vegeta... They probably read your post and binned the card they sent you... lol. That was a super fast 180 when the facts about AMD's cards came out.
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