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2015/01/04 08:10:00 (permalink)
Cablemod came out hard and strong mid Dec last year with a relatively large line up of aftermarket individually sleeved cables for 3 PSU brands and 10 PSU lines (Corsair AXi/HXi/RM, EVGA G2/P2/T2 and Seasonic XP2/XP3/KM3/FL2). By now you may even have seen videos from OC3D and HardwareCanucks about them. Thanks to the Cablemod community manager and Performance PCs, I got a chance to take a look at one of their kits. I chose the E2 set in red to compare with the EVGA kit I checked out last year here: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/179218-evga-g2p2t2-individually-sleeved-cable-kit/
 

 

 
The outer cover is pretty clean and gives you the brand name as well as the series name and color type, along with the UPC/EAN codes. I must note here that this is a sample set and not a retail kit. Retail versions will have the box sealed in plastic and each cable will also be sealed in a plastic pouch instead of being tied in place using cable ties. A retail set will be coming to my hands at a later point and I will be sure to point out any difference(s) I spot then.
 

 

 
Sliding out the cover reveals the box that contains everything.
 

 

 

 

 
Opening it up, you are greeted by a drawstring pouch bag and a certificate of assurance below it. While I have yet to hear any reports of aftermarket cables from a half decent brand going bad, it is always good to see this- especially after seeing first hand the level of involvement that the Cablemod team does in various online communities and across social media platforms. Some would say this is something to be expected from a start-up brand and I would agree, so here's to hoping the same level of commitment stays with time and success.
 

 
Opening up the pouch, we see a heap of cables and...
 

 
This thing. I understand that Cablemod was referencing the stock cables provided with the PSU(s) when making their own cables but this just seems so out of place here. Anyone with an EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSU will have one of these anyway so I am a bit indifferent to the inclusion of this as-is. Either sleeve it, or omit it fully. But then again, it is a small molex-floppy drive adapter that one can just put back in the pouch with any unused cables so I will stop making a mountain out of a mole hill here.
 

 
Now we come to why I felt that adapter was so out of place. I wish I could actually show properly how the sleeving felt because these cables are proper paracord and feel great compared to any of the nylon/microcord cables I have handled before. This 20+4 pin cable comes in at 60 cm long- same as the stock EVGA ATX cable as well as their own individually sleeved ATX cable. In fact, this is the same story for all common cables used and thus helps remove any suprises of cables being too short/long.
 

 
Now for the EPS cables. There are 2 4+4 CPU power cables which are both 70 cm long. Notice there isn't any indicator to distinguish these from the PCI-E cables. This is something I would like to see implemented in the next revision just to cater to everyone. In the meantime, to distinguish these from the PCI-E cables, just remember that the latter come in 6+2 type (or just 6 pin):
 

 
 

 
Going back to the EPS cables, I noticed they implemented an interlocking connector for the 4+4 pins:
 

 

 

 
This is not a unique connector to them but again another example of a small thing that can help out end users and one that isn't commonly used.
 
Now on to the PCI-E cables:
 

 
There are 4 6+2 pin cables that are 60 cm long and 2 daisychained dual 6+2 pin cables that extend to 75 cm long for the additional connector. As usual- these are ok if sticking close to the theoretical PCI-E power limits (150w for 8 pin, 75w for 6 pin) but I recommend using discrete cables if overvolting/overclocking past these power delivery limits.
 

 
The 2 pin part just clips on and does not interlock, and is also separated right at the PSU side itself just as with the EVGA individually sleeved kit. This way you can hide it completely if not needed.
 

 
There are 2 4x SATA cables (one 85 cm long and the other 70 cm long) and 2 2x SATA cables (50 cm long). I liked this a lot since this caters to people with large and small cases and also helps power storage drives as well as other accessories that use SATA for power without feeling like you are running out of options.
 

 
On the full size Molex end, you are more limited. What's included is a 3 Molex cable (75 cm long) and a 2 Molex cable (50 cm long). To be frank, I would like to see everyone migrate from Molex to SATA anyway so I am all for it personally. But I can see how people with pumps/fan controllers/LEDs might want to get more- not in terms of the number of connectors but more so in terms of cables themselves to route to different places. I can't fault them for this much though since the EVGA kit itself has the same configuration.
 
Now speaking of the EVGA cables,
 

 

 
These paracord sleeved cables are softer and bend to a tigher radius (top) compared to the EVGA cables (bottom).
 

 

 
Both are heatshrink-less and the wires are crimped into the connector rather than being flame sealed. I didn't find any loose wires after a tug of each cable but time will tell how well they last.
 

 

 
Excuse the order being swapped around in these two pictures, but you can see the Cablemod cables have a lighter shade of red compared to the EVGA ones. This is completely a personal thing and both go great with the Asus ROG red in the two Asus boards I have here.
 
One specific thing about these cables for the EVGA PSUs- the stock cables have capacitors on some of them to help lower the ripples further. But neither these nor the EVGA individually sleeved kit has them. EVGA said it matters very little and I have not found any differences when hooking these up to my EVGA PSUs to power a hungry rig, so I can definitely recommend these without issues. 
 
Would I buy these? Currently, they are going for $89.95 over at Performance PCs in the USA. The EVGA kit is also the same price. Customer support from both companies is excellent as well. So it comes down to the actual cables themselves and I truly feel these cables are on a higher quality tier. So yes, I would buy these if I was looking for aftermarket cables.
 
[Addendum] I will have a professional sleever take a look at one of these cables and also de-pin them for pictures of the actual sleeving/crimping quality. I will also see how these work out in a large case as well as a small case. These pictures and thoughts will be added in soon.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 08:22:06 (permalink)
    OK Nice but still $90 Bucks, What is the difference in their cables and EVGA's cables?
    What is the Guage of the Wire? Theirs and EVGA's?
    Are they supported by EVGA and will the Power Supply still be covered under EVGA's Warranty?

    G2/P2 Red Power Supply Cable Set (Individually Sleeved)
    Part Number: 100-CR-1300-B9
    EVGA's
    Includes the following cables:
    • 1 x 24-pin ATX Cable
    • 2 x 4+4pin EPS12V CPU Cable
    • 4 x 6+2pin PCI-E VGA Cables
    • 2 x 6+2pin + 6pin PCI-E VGA Cables
    • 4 x 3 SATA Cables
    • 1 x 3 Molex Cable
    • 1 x 2 Molex Cable + 1 Floppy Connector
     
    Theirs
     
    • 1 x 24 Pin ATX Cable (600mm)
    • 2 x 4+4 Pin EPS Cable (700mm)
    • 2 x Dual 6+2 Pin PCI-e Cable (750mm)
    • 4 x 6+2 Pin PCI-e Cable (600mm)
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    • 1 x Quad SATA Power Cable (700mm)
    • 2 x Dual SATA Power Cable (500mm)
    • 1 x Triple 4-Pin Molex Cable (750mm)
    • 1 x Dual 4-Pin Molex Cable (500mm)
    • 1 x Molex to Floppy Adapter (100mm)
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 08:29:09 (permalink)
    Like I said- the sleeving material, the color options and overall feel. They do come in dual color options also so that's something as well.
     
    The wire gage used is the same in both sets- 16 and 18 AWG. Although in some cables in the EVGA set, I am inclined to think some are 20 AWG given the size- not a 100% sure though! 
     
    As with any 3rd party cables, they won't be supported by the PSU manufacturer. So if that's a concern then sticking to stock cables/1st party alternatives would be the way to go.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 08:33:51 (permalink)
     Thank for showing them to us.
    They do come with more cables, I wonder if EVGA would say yes to them. This would be Great.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 08:37:40 (permalink)
    Thanx for putting this info up. I prefer paracord to nylon so im happy to see it used here and without any shrink is just a big plus also. Did they supply the wire guage info? Be nice if it was a size bigger than standard. As long as all the pins are of good quality and they are arranged correctly it looks like a winner.
    Edit: lol, there was no posts up yet when I went to put mine up, but I see there is now and cav ask the same questions and you answered it already so disregard man. \m/
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 08:42:39 (permalink)
    A very nice review with lots of pics.
     
    Agree with post number 5 as wire gauge size should be mentioned.

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 09:18:35 (permalink)
    This is fantastic solution and for PCI-E cables.
    I thought on that during installing cables SuperNOVA 1200 P2.
     

     
    Only for EVGA/CORSAIR/Seasonic...
    That mean EVGA present interesting and most wanted power supplies last year.
    I don't know for EVGA PSU somehow EVGA cables are better, that's only my opinion.
     
    This is better 

     
    Than this

     AX1500i owners now could jump from happiness, this kit is better than from CORSAIR site.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 09:42:20 (permalink)
    They replace EVGA's great cables? Maybe the cable mod cables are a little better, but EVGA's cables are already so good, it almost seems pointless. Just a tiny difference if you look real close and a small difference when you are routing the cables. Most observers who didn't build it won't appreciate the difference. So, I guess it's an investment for personal pride?

    Did they supply the wire guage info? Be nice if it was a size bigger than standard.


    He already answered. Same as EVGA's.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 09:54:41 (permalink)
    Vlada: I was showing the tightest bend radius there. You can "shape" these cables and they retain it better than nylon.

    Yeah, if you already have the EVGA individually sleeved kit then I can't recommend getting these. This kit is mostly for those with stock cables and wanting an individually braided cable set but not wanting to sleeve themselves or pay an artisan for it.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 10:22:35 (permalink)
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    Yeah, if you already have the EVGA individually sleeved kit then I can't recommend getting these. This kit is mostly for those with stock cables and wanting an individually braided cable set but not wanting to sleeve themselves or pay an artisan for it.


    I see. I guess I am not familiar enough with EVGA's products.

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 11:07:41 (permalink)
    I don't understand... I love when you bend cables and leave them if they back in first position as much possible.
     
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    Why you think these cables are batter than EVGA Sleeve KIT?
    First idea and nice cables are from EVGA, that must be remembered.
    I can't buy this I pay from EVGA Europe 55e and that's it.
    From Performance PC could cost me more than 100e import and I'm not sure these are better.
    I even think EVGA cables are better except locking mechanism on plastic but that's not so important at all.
    EVGA PSU = EVGA Sleeve Cables
     
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/01/04 11:18:18 (permalink)
    Look cables from NEX1500 Classified, they stay in circle only because velco tracks keep them...
    Without tracks they start to move more in flat position, I love that...
     

     
    Lucky for me I saved these EVGA velcro tracks black and red for new EVGA Black Set. 
    I even think from warranty side is better to stay with EVGA cables.
    They pay attention more because they will connect their hardware.
     
     
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/29 13:39:39 (permalink)
    Are these set of cables compatible with any EVGA G2/T2/G2 PSU?


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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/29 14:49:10 (permalink)
    Can these cables be used on the 1600W Titanium?
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/29 18:56:41 (permalink)
    G2/P2/T2 all have the same pinouts, so the cables can be swapped between them.


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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/29 21:35:53 (permalink)
    Could someone tell me why a company sells 2 x 6+2pin + 6pin PCI-E cables if they are not recommended ?
    That makes no sense, maybe for a bottom card that might not draw as much power ?
     
    Those Cablemod cables look pretty bad  Thumbs down.
     
     
     
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/29 21:41:34 (permalink)
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    Could someone tell me why a company sells 2 x 6+2pin + 6pin PCI-E cables if they are not recommended ?
    That makes no sense, maybe for a bottom card that might not draw as much power ?
     
    Those Cablemod cables look pretty bad  Thumbs down.
     
     
     




     
    looks and less wire to route through a case. A lot of people just want the reduction in overall wires.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/29 21:46:39 (permalink)
    Yes, I understand that, but if the same company that sells them, EVGA in my point, recommends to use a single 8 pin and a single 6 pin, why include them in the kit.
     
    I mean I used the piggy back cables on my 770`s, but I`m using the straight wires with my 980 Ti`s from my 1000 P2.
     
    I`m just glad the kit has at least 4 6/8 pin straight cables.

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/29 22:07:58 (permalink)
     
     
     
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    ...and will be needed for a 980ti KPE 3 way SLI for most PSU's
     
    edit:
    I would prefer EVGA to provide its customers the ability to purchase each additional cable as needed, Even if it required a longer wait time for an order. 
     
    Nice review thou
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/30 07:35:28 (permalink)
    nice cables, I saw the review on OC3D as well. they seem more similar to the Corsair cables than to EVGA ones.
    some prefer softer cables as it's easier to manage them in the case.
    others like my friend Vlada011 like the tight ones more, I prefer the softer ones for small cases and tighter ones for big cases.

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/06/30 08:41:51 (permalink)
    the cablemod cables are softer and more pliable than the sleeved evga cables, and just feel like a higher quality product in my opinion (i've actually used both). it was much easier to get that back side panel back on with the cablemods, plus they retain a more fluid shape if you're trying to route them. my only complaint was that they don't seem to do a very good job keeping the individual wires separated when plugging the pins into the connectors... for the cables that are split, this means you can't cleanly separate the wires you don't need and route them completely out of the way because they're all tangled up at the end where they connect into the power supply. a minor complaint, but still a nuisance.
     
    but i certainly feel that the cable selection/layout is better with the cablemods. evga's sata cables (with only three connectors per cable) are definitely less than ideal. i'd hardly call either set perfect, though.
     
    i should note that i did have one of the sleeves pull out of one of the cablemod sata cables when i was trying to route extra connectors out of the way. doesn't seem indicative of the quality of the cables, though, and cablemod was very quick to reply when i contacted support about it. i had a replacement cable in hand (straight from the factory in hong kong) in less than a week, no questions asked.

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/11/12 06:12:41 (permalink)
    Well, I'm sorry to say that these cables from CableMod, at least in my case, leave a lot to be desired and have caused me more than one headache.
    They look great and can't complain about their "ductiveness" compared to other nylon braided types, but when several of my molex powered devices in my rig started acting or just not starting, I started checking on all connections, only to find three pins had released themselves from the connector, thus the actual terminals where not contacting properly. 
    To make matters worse, I purchased a fan controller front panel, fed via a molex connector and ended up burning due to an erratic connection; never doubting about the proper power connection or cables, I returned the unit and got a replacement from the shop, free of charge. Convinced that the previous unit was faulty I spent more than three hours connecting the new fan controller (fans, temp sensors, USB, and molex power), only to find it had the same erratic behaviour... Of course, this time I checked one by one all the cables and connections and that is when I found that the molex pins (two of them) had come out of its place and were slightly further back in the CableMod molex connector; pulling back with two fingers the pin came straight out! So, for whoever has purchased this kit, please take a look at all the terminals and specially at the Molex dual cable connectors; make sure they are in the right place and solidly fixed. 
    I'm not prepared to buy new ones from other manufacturers, so I have purchased a few Instant Loctite Super glue and have put a drop on every connector's backside, hoping they will hold in place.... (if you wonder why I didn't return the cables, it was simply because I bought them from a local vendor who doesn't accept returns).
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/11/15 03:41:41 (permalink)
    Because of that I insist on EVGA Power Supply Cables.
    They made cables for their PSU and they better pay attention on details to avoid some damage and replacement cables or PSU.
    Cable Mod will not pay attention on that and my advice to everyone first nicely check all cables, pins, and than connect PSU with other components.
    That's similar as extension only better, finer and nicer but they don't care much for anything except to sell them. 

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/11/15 04:47:57 (permalink)
    I fully agree with you Vlada011, If only I had known 
    Having two EVGA GTX 980Ti Hybrid graphics cards in SLI mode, I made sure that all cables connecting them to the power unit were OK. When I recover from this big cash drain  on my rig, one of the first things I will do is change the whole wiring kit and most probably to the EVGA brand; I will however read all comments & reviews I can find in the net.
    Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2015/11/15 06:08:20 (permalink)
    I would even think about to back default cables.
    If they didn't make good connection immediately who knows how glue can fix that.
    If you have two 980Ti 70-80 euro is not worth of risk and than later if they really miss you can order from EVGA Europe.
    At least that cables where you have problem. But some people made own cables, they know to fix such things and their work is sometimes even better than fabric because they choose more expensive and better wires.
     

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2016/02/25 09:21:51 (permalink)
    Has anyone used cable combs with either cable kit? What size combs actually works with EVGA's super thin cables/sleeve? I've read a number of places that's it's impossible with current combs available, to get the cables to stay inside the combs at ALL.
    Can anyone link some combs that actually fit? Not just what they "assume" or "heard" will fit. But ones that really have proven too.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2016/02/25 09:26:14 (permalink)
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    Has anyone used cable combs with either cable kit? What size combs actually works with EVGA's super thin cables/sleeve? I've read a number of places that's it's impossible with current combs available, to get the cables to stay inside the combs at ALL.
    Can anyone link some combs that actually fit? Not just what they "assume" or "heard" will fit. But ones that really have proven too.


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    I think the EVGA cables are 18awg or smaller, and most combs seems to be 16awg, so they would be loose on the cables.

    They do have the pass through combs (not open) but they are still going to be loose on the cables.
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2016/02/25 13:46:08 (permalink)
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    Has anyone used cable combs with either cable kit? What size combs actually works with EVGA's super thin cables/sleeve? I've read a number of places that's it's impossible with current combs available, to get the cables to stay inside the combs at ALL.
    Can anyone link some combs that actually fit? Not just what they "assume" or "heard" will fit. But ones that really have proven too.



    I used these with my CableMod set:
     
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/zip-ties-clamps-anchors/cablemod-cable-combs-4-28-slot-clear.html
     
    Seemed to work fine, though they can be broken if you use too much force trying to press the cable into the comb. They're snug, but not so snug that you can't slide/adjust them after the fact. Also, they were a little on the pricey side, but most of this stuff is when you stop and think about it.
     
    No idea if they're actually an official product (they're listed as CableMod items on the PPCs website), but they seemed to be laser cut. In fact, most of them still had the protective backing on them from where they were cut out of the original sheet.
     
    They seemed to work on the EVGA cables, too.
     
    But I like Scarlet-Tech's suggestion to have them 3D-printed. Then you know they'll fit. 
     
     

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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2016/02/26 16:46:05 (permalink)
    I've used those as well, here are some updated pictures including the cable combs: http://thermalbench.com/2...arket-psu-cable-kit/2/
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    Re: A look at the Cablemod cables for the EVGA G2/P2/T2 PSUs 2016/06/18 15:10:51 (permalink)
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    Yes, I understand that, but if the same company that sells them, EVGA in my point, recommends to use a single 8 pin and a single 6 pin, why include them in the kit.
     
    I mean I used the piggy back cables on my 770`s, but I`m using the straight wires with my 980 Ti`s from my 1000 P2.
     
    I`m just glad the kit has at least 4 6/8 pin straight cables.

    It's funny how your good reasonable question is not being answered. I agree with you on that question if EVGA recommends to use a single 8 pin connector, why not supply it on the kit?



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