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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/19 18:05:46 (permalink)
Does anyone have a really good guide to wrapping up some 780 Classifieds in some warm, water resistant clothes so I can slap some DICE in the pots?  I am thinking about the Clear Fingernail polish, then cover everything with Petroleum Jelly, but I am not sure if I am supposed to cover the memory as well? 
 
I plan to find some DICE this weekend, since I have 4 days to burn.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/19 18:48:21 (permalink)
Personally haven't tried any DICE/LN2 prep for GPU's, But Overclock.net has some good threads/pics under their Dry Ice / Liquid Nitrogen Forums if you search through them. 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/19 19:49:18 (permalink)
Thank you as always hallowen
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/20 06:16:58 (permalink)
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Thank you as always hallowen




Anytime Scarlet, Just Helping out where I can.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/20 13:12:57 (permalink)
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Thanks Man, appreciate the thumbs up.
 
I was almost at the point of wondering if anyone out there still had any interest left in Overclocking/Benching Information.
Every year there seems to be less and less forum members that are still "into" this area of finding System limits, But it has come to the point where it really doesn't surprise me anymore.




While I do not partake I follow this avidly, don't have the time/space/money these days to have a stand alone benching rig just to see what I can push out of it, however I would love to.
There are definitely still some of us that love it, I guess the masses isn't as into it because desktop hardware caught up with the applications, more or less, and also so many these days are face first into the phone and I have been asked by those types before why even have a PC when you have your phone and a smart TV.....  SIGH.  You don't need to have SLI and a clock to not feel the lag in general 1080p gaming anymore, and while I dont NEED to OC I still do because I enjoy it and I follow these exploits as well, and hope they keep coming!
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/20 15:18:18 (permalink)
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While I do not partake I follow this avidly, don't have the time/space/money these days to have a stand alone benching rig just to see what I can push out of it, however I would love to.
There are definitely still some of us that love it, I guess the masses isn't as into it because desktop hardware caught up with the applications, more or less, and also so many these days are face first into the phone and I have been asked by those types before why even have a PC when you have your phone and a smart TV.....  SIGH.  You don't need to have SLI and a clock to not feel the lag in general 1080p gaming anymore, and while I dont NEED to OC I still do because I enjoy it and I follow these exploits as well, and hope they keep coming!




Yeah, Time Marches On with all the latest technology available to everyone that wants it resulting in people losing interest in the not-too-distant past technologies very rapidly.
Probably one of the main reasons why I don't feel like spending $4K - $5K on a new 4-Way SLI graphics card setup.
As you probably have noticed lately, I'm just playing around OC/Benching with a Much less expensive (although it Still cost over $1K) single card setup which while enjoyable doesn't quite measure up in "Fun" value compared to my other past 4-card SLI Systems, But at least it still keeps me active, Although to a lesser degree.
 
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/20 18:47:06 (permalink)
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Thanks Man, appreciate the thumbs up.
I was almost at the point of wondering if anyone out there still had any interest left in Overclocking/Benching Information.
Every year there seems to be less and less forum members that are still "into" this area of finding System limits, But it has come to the point where it really doesn't surprise me anymore.


 I look at this all the time. Right now my enthusiasm is there, but my wallet isn't. Love overclocking and benching. 
You and others on "Get It Colder" are a lot of my inspiration, you all know who you are. Definitely one heck of an expensive hobby, especially with the fast depreciation of components.  
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/20 21:53:47 (permalink)
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hallowen
Thanks Man, appreciate the thumbs up.
I was almost at the point of wondering if anyone out there still had any interest left in Overclocking/Benching Information.
Every year there seems to be less and less forum members that are still "into" this area of finding System limits, But it has come to the point where it really doesn't surprise me anymore.


I look at this all the time. Right now my enthusiasm is there, but my wallet isn't. Love overclocking and benching. 
You and others on "Get It Colder" are a lot of my inspiration, you all know who you are. Definitely one heck of an expensive hobby, especially with the fast depreciation of components.  




+1, right now I don't have much to contribute. Halfway through college already though! 
 
But believe me, when I finish assuming I can find a decent job, a 4 Way SLI system will be going in the play room along with a couple 180L dewars. 
 
For now I just have to live vicariously through you guys, I still have some fun toys up my sleeve but no time to use them. Tek 5.0 Slim, GTX 285 Classified, GTX 295 Dual PCB, GTX 580 Classy, CPU DICE pot, 4x2GB Dominator GT Elpida Hypers (8-8-8-24), W5580 ES, i7 960 that can do 5GHz on 1.5V, X58A-OC. All kinds of fun toys. 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/29 20:31:03 (permalink)
Alright gents.  I have the Scrap Heap up and running.  We are about 30 minutes in and the infamous condensation starts..  The problem is, it isn't at the bottom of the phase change head..  It builds up where the foam and tape is, and then drips onto the mount, then onto the motherboard.  it previously had nothing up top, so I added shop towels (removed for the picture) foam and the tape hoping to hold off the condensation, and I am even running my air conditioning in the house to reduce it as much as possible, but as you can see, it is already starting again.  
 
Should I pack that full of petroleum Jelly... seal it with actual AC Insulation and duct tape... I am not sure what to do.. Maybe recharge the system?
 

 
The socket is tightly packed with petroleum Jelly, the outside of the socket it tightly packed as well.  I added shop towels and even thicker foam. Thank you all for the help and I look forward to the answers.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/29 21:40:28 (permalink)
What are the temps on the head reading at? 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/29 22:33:20 (permalink)
According to the Fluke that is embedded in the head, -40.6
 
according to the Ryobi Laser Canon thermal gun thing, the area that is condensating is 20.3c
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/30 04:51:04 (permalink)
You don't need to pack it with PJ or the like, It almost appears that the "foam" in the pic is porous.
I assume you are using closed-cell foam which should not allow any air in around the top of the Evaporator head/Enclosure to form the condensation shown.

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/30 09:47:48 (permalink)
The foam in there was from the lot that came with the phase change, so I am not sure if that was a bad section of foam. There wasn't anything in there before, so I decided to put it there to keep the humid air out of the mounting system.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/30 10:23:17 (permalink)
If You can blow air through it, Then it is porous, If you can't then it is closed-cell foam.
 
Personally, I've never had any condensation like you have shown on top of the Evaporator Head/Flex tube area on either my CPU Phase Change (Vertical Mounting) and also my GPU Phase Change (Horizontal mounting) no matter how long or short a time my System is in operation in which I use closed-cell foam to insulate those same areas.
I know it's a Pain to disassemble, But you did state you checked for any condensation around the CPU/Evaporator Head, Right?
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/30 11:01:12 (permalink)
I have checked inside and where the hard mounting foam is under the mounting system, thst there is a very little bit of condensation.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/30 11:33:39 (permalink)
There has got to be an air leak/insulation problem somewhere. How bad was the condensation before you used the foam insulation? 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/05/30 11:36:30 (permalink)
I honestly couldn't tell because of the foam. Air was most definitely getting in, that is for sure. I have added a shop town and more foam around the top of the mount, and will watch it closely. If that doesn't work, I may look into some way of filling the top of the mount to seal it.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/01 20:18:06 (permalink)
I am going to have to seal the top of the mount somehow. I was forced to shut down the system because of a severe lightning storm, and now there is condensation soaked through 4 layers of shop towel and all over the top of the mounting system. I pulled the foam out of the top, and will purchase some sealant tomorrow, or more Petroleum Jelly, and just coat or fill the top of the mount when it dries out.

Currently, I am not comfortable booting the system, or plugging it back in. I will just wait 24/48 hours for everything to guy out.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 00:53:17 (permalink)
Sorry to hear that. Do you have any pictures of the whole setup (phase change unit) from top to bottom? And to be honest, that doesn't look to be the right foam.It should look more like the foam around the evap head and base.
This is a handy tool for all sorts of jobs. Including but not limited to...Getting the water off the board. I have used this many times to clean a board of water or ice build up. LINK And it works for a whole lot of other things as well. No need to wait 24 hours, this will have you back up in running in less than 5 minutes.
 
On you next set of test. Just leave it disconnected from the mother board. Turn it on for about 5 minutes then turn it off. This way you have a very good idea where the water is coming from. Also you need to make sure the evap is really between -30C to -50C or so at all times. 
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 04:44:03 (permalink)
The evap head is always at -38 or below. I check it with the fluke at random time, and the unit itself has the LED read out. The condensation is building up on the lines just before the head itself. I was thinking if I seal the lines from the inside of the mount up to the top of the mount, with a thin layer of sealant that I could peel off, if necessary, then it may stop the frost/condensation build up.

I did put a fan on the board last night to move air over it. It should be dry today, but I am getting very frustrated with tearing the entire system apart anytime I shut it down, just because of this. I don't know enough about it to make it stop though.

Could the system need to be recharged with freon?

I could also pull the motherboard off the test bench, remove all of the Maximus tuf armor and clear cost the whole board with fingernail polish. That would stop the condensation worries... Lol.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 07:22:31 (permalink)
I would make sure you get closed cell foam.  As close as you are, McMaster has EVERYTHING.  You should get it the next day.  McMaster is your friend.  Trust me. 
 
http://www.mcmaster.com/#closed-cell-foam/=xg6959
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 13:36:52 (permalink)
As nateman_doo says....Mcmaster is you friend!.
 
As to your line. It means the foam around it is either not tight enough to keep ice from forming up and draining on to your board. Your next best friend there is going to be electrical tape. that foam needs to be married to the line. It was also part of my problem when i built my first SS.
Here are some pics...
The first one shows what is going on under neath the foam if you do not make that as tight as possible.

Here is it fully closed

Here is the bare line.

And this is what it looked like right after i bought it from a forum member. I showed up broken and need repairs.
As you can see. The only thing I kept was the case bottom. LOL And I have the compressor still. It has been sealed and still sitting in the garage.

These things are not cheap to tinker with unless you have all the parts to fix them. About a 1000 dollars in tools and refrigerants and regular shops will try to refill them like it's an A/C compressor and it will work far worse. So be careful when getting it refilled. I was lucky. I have and A/C company as a client so I was able to learn off the learning curve. lol
 
As to you taking the board apart....I wouldn't. Once you get this SS licked then you will be all good. Start with that foam around the line. and go from there...
 
 

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 13:59:51 (permalink)
Perfect timing to post, as I was coming to post pictures.  I tried to post earlier, but my internet was down so I couldn't do anything.
 

 

 

 
I remove all of the foam that I have put in.  this is how the system was delivered, so I may need to pull it apart and reseal it, because there obviously was no previous seal.
 
I added the shop towels in just so I could see where the condensation is building up, and you can see exactly where in the pictures, since the shop towels are drenched through.
 
the foam that was previously in there was added by me.  All of the foam has been replaced with the foam that GunSlingerOCS normally uses with LN2 cooling.  I would think that anything used with LN2 would be fine for phase change, but obviously I need something better somewhere.  I am fine with putting more money into the system, but this tearing it apart anytime a storm rolls through to redo something is old at this point.  This will be the 6th time tearing it apart.  I am NOT willing to waste this time over and over every few days because something isn't right.  I want to get it figured out and fix it properly/permanently, or get rid of it completely.  Putting an extra $200-300 into a system after spending so much to get it up and running is not cost effective at all, especially when it is said that it is supposed to be fairly "Set and go" (compared to LN2/DICE) which it is not at all.
 
I will order the foam from McMaster, but which one am I supposed to get? there are hundred of them, and I looked at the neopreme and the Super resilient xtreme temperature silicon, and then the extreme temperature silicon.
 
The Yellow hard foam in the mount doesn't stop anything, which would seem pretty obvious, which is why I have considered sealing the top so that condensation doesn't drip down in through the mount.  I can say for a fact, if it continues to happen after spending another handful of cash, I will get forced to get rid of everything with the phase change completely.  I really don't want to, since I have come to figure out that my electric bill isn't all that bad after most of a month of folding, but having this system down and fighting with it for over a month is getting old. 
 
 
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 14:44:14 (permalink)
All you need is a piece of Armacell Closed-Cell insulation that is normally used for insulating hot and cold water pipes.
Electrical tape should also be used to seal connection between the Evap Head insulation and the Armacell.
 


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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 14:48:37 (permalink)
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All you need is a piece of Armacell Closed-Cell insulation that is normally used for insulating hot and cold water pipes.
Electrical tape should also be used to seal connection between the Evap Head insulation and the Armacell.
 



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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 16:15:25 (permalink)
Done... I am done! This is not worth it. The freaking (I want to use much worse words) phase change just sprung a leak while trying to pull the mount off. This is a waste of time and money.

Go figure it's right after I waste another $30 going to Home Depot to get the stuff..

I am putting the Ln2 pot on the 4790k and will just use it for benching. It's already at 5.1ghz, so what can it hurt. Does anyone want this phase change for a project?
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 16:40:59 (permalink)
Man!....Sorry to hear about the refrigerant leak, But Why did you have to pull the mount off?
You could have left the mount on and just pushed the Armacell down into the top of the evap enclosure and around the flex pipe and sealed it.
Did it break at the evap head or somewhere else?

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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 17:36:19 (permalink)
Unfortunately, when I read that electrical tape should be used to seal the connection between the evap head and the armacell, that I need to actually get to that part, which is inside of the mount. 
 
Every time I have removed it, the evap head wasn't loose, but it was easy enough to slide it out of the mount and the hard foam normally guides it out.  This time, the evap head itself slid out and as soon as it slipped, the hissing started.  All part of life.. obviously, a very frustrating part, but still just part of life.
 
Oh well.. I will make sure if I see anyone else with the issue, to pass it on to them not to remove the mount.  I am really good at assuming when someone says one thing, that is what I need to do.  Kind of like when I asked over on OCN about the flex I was seeing on the EK block was normal, 2 times, and no one responded, I assumed it wasn't.. I posted a picture after lapping, and within 1 minute, 5 people had told me how stupid I was to lap the block.  I guess that professionals assume amateurs will know without knowing.
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 18:25:07 (permalink)
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Unfortunately, when I read that electrical tape should be used to seal the connection between the evap head and the armacell, that I need to actually get to that part, which is inside of the mount. 
 
Every time I have removed it, the evap head wasn't loose, but it was easy enough to slide it out of the mount and the hard foam normally guides it out.  This time, the evap head itself slid out and as soon as it slipped, the hissing started.  All part of life.. obviously, a very frustrating part, but still just part of life.
 
Oh well.. I will make sure if I see anyone else with the issue, to pass it on to them not to remove the mount.  I am really good at assuming when someone says one thing, that is what I need to do.  Kind of like when I asked over on OCN about the flex I was seeing on the EK block was normal, 2 times, and no one responded, I assumed it wasn't.. I posted a picture after lapping, and within 1 minute, 5 people had told me how stupid I was to lap the block.  I guess that professionals assume amateurs will know without knowing.




Well, Although I tried to explain the best I could and it's not going to help now, I really meant for you to use the electrical tape to connect the evap head insulation on the flex pipe after you pushed the Armaflex all the way into the evap housing until it bottomed on the hard foam leaving about two inches showing outside the top of the evap housing and then tape the two together, although there is always a chance the flex pipe will eventually break upon repeated installing/uninstalling.
 
Not that it's any comfort to you and believe me I DO relate to your frustration, But I have encountered the same thing happen to numerous Phase Change units in my past at one time or another, although since I have been building these units for years, I still have all the necessary refrigeration tools, Brazing setup, Vacuum pump and Freon supply to repair them in case of another refrigerant line failure.
 
Unfortunately, Unless you or someone you know have these tools and supplies readily at hand or available to you it would be otherwise rather expensive to get it repaired/recharged and even finding a replacement would probably run around $300 to $500 for a USED one, Not to mention the exorbitant shipping costs involved due to the weight of the unit.
 
In this "Hobby" of pushing both Electrical/Mechanical Limits, I have personally Broken/Destroyed Countless MB's, Graphics Cards, CPU's, Memory Modules and other components resulting in massive $$$ losses and almost my Sanity at one point or another, But for whatever reason I find that I just Can't Stop doing it until the Smoke Clears!
 
  
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Re:Get It Colder......2 2015/06/02 18:36:58 (permalink)
Since either am in the military, and we have a ton of HVAC guys right next door, I may see if I can hire one for a case of beer and cost of equipment to do the repair for me. If I can, no harm no foul (post repair....)..  I honestly am glad I pulled all of the insulation off, because it was barely held on.  There was condensation about 5" above the actual case.. If I can get it repaired, I am going to push the tube in there, and seal it extremely well all the way back to the case in hopes of avoiding this issue. 
 
but, until then, let me see if I can break something else:
 

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