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The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed.

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2015/04/26 03:01:01 (permalink)
I've been using this board for a few months and haven't done too much overclocking, just a quick 4ghz (Uncore stock) with my 5930k and 16gb Corsair (The best Hynix IC's) and DDR4 @ 3200 15-15-15-35-1T-1.4v. Nothing major.

Today I noticed while getting into Uncore & RAM overclocking, this board has some major flaws that I feel should be addressed. I can replicate every single issue I am about explain. I can and will make an HD video of this if someone from EVGA would like me to do so.
 
When setting Uncore in BIOS to 40x then changing any of the individual CPU multipliers, the Uncore reverts back to 3000mhz. The board also exhibits this behavior with the multi at 40x with all the CPU multi's set and pressing enter on the Uncore set at 40x. It will go back and forth from 3000mhz to 4000mhz.

Here are the issues:
 
1. Uncore cannot be overclocked past 36x. Intel XTU will allow 1 further adjustment, only 1x however (The Uncore multi also has to be set 1x higher than your CPU multi for it go up at all, I did this with a 40x CPU multi and a 41x Uncore multi. This resulted in 37x Uncore). Anything past this crashes no matter what RING voltage.
 
2. There is no 1:28 RAM multiplier. Noticed this while overclocking RAM. The RAM I use is very versatile, so when trying to get a handle on certain BCLK/FSB combos I noticed there was no 1:28 multi.
 
3. PCI-E 1.0 1x devices to not work unless you set them from Auto to Gen 1 or Gen 2, I used Gen 1 and a Sound Blaster ZxR (Not sure if this affects all PCI-E 1x devices).
 
4. When the above scenario is in play & Gen 1 or 2 for PCI-E 1x add in card has been set, the PCI-E 3.0 16x link used by the GPU randomly links at 8x instead of 16x upon bootup (can be confirmed by entering BIOS, Windows also confirms this)
 
5. When setting Uncore in BIOS to 40x then changing any of the individual CPU multipliers, the Uncore reverts back to 3000mhz. The board also exhibits this behavior with the multi at 40x with all the CPU multi's set and pressing enter on the Uncore set at 40x. It will go back and forth from 3000mhz to 4000mhz.


 
So. I believe those 5 issues are quite serious. I personally haven't found any other issues that are specific to this board, however these definitely need attention IMO. I have ranked them in order of (what I think) severity as well. #5, from what I can tell, does not affect functionality. I do not think when the malfunction happens & the Uncore is actually being set to 3000mhz. I believe it only looks as if it's set to 3000mhz.


 
I hope this is taken seriously. I could live with the fact that every Asus board with their "OC Socket" could clock their Uncores higher than us without a doubt. But BIOS Limited to 36x?
 
Why? Was this intentional?

I was under the impression that the Classified brand was your best offering. I have used other X99 board (3 to be exact) & they have not exhibited issues like this one has. I've never seen legitimate findings ignored on this forum anyway. So. EVGA, I await your response. 

Thanks!
 
Ty

*edit*

Wanted to mention the hardware in my sig is current and in use for anyone wondering what my config consists of (Getting that SM951 was not easy).
post edited by nexxusty - 2015/04/26 03:12:26

AOC G2460PG 1080P 144hz 1ms GSYNC
Corsair Air 540
Corsair AX860i
EVGA X99 Classified (BIOS 1.16)
i7 5930k @ 4.0ghz (1.2v) 
Corsair 16gb LPX 3200mhz 15-15-15-35 1T (1.4v) 
EVGA GTX 980 1480/8000mhz
Sound Blaster ZxR
Samsung 840 Pro 128gb (Boot)
Samsung SM951 512gb (Crippled @ X4 2.0)
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/04/26 06:52:59 (permalink)
    Sorry to hear about all your problems.  
     
    I'll start by saying, I am not too OCing savy but got my CPU @ 4.5 GHz yesterday with only messing with the multi and the Offset voltage.  It was fairly easy surprisingly.  I still haven't done hours long benches but I did many 30 min ones which might mean nothing to some but to me was enough to keep going.  I've gamed on it with no issue.  

    I agree there are some issues with these boards but they've done a decent job coming with BIOS updates on them.
     
    I have a XP941 only because unfortunately, the X99 Classified only came with a M.2 PCI-E 2.0 and not a 3.0 otherwise I would have waited for the SM951 as the SM951 is 3.0 but still a tad faster at 2.0 as compared to the XP941.  I couldn't originally get it to work but once I got Windows 8.1 which I couldn't stand and am using now, it worked just fine.  Also, make sure you don't format it with 3 party software or windows as that can damage it AFAIK and I recall.

    Hope your issues get ironed out.
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/04/27 13:11:19 (permalink)
    nexxusty
    I've been using this board for a few months and haven't done too much overclocking, just a quick 4ghz (Uncore stock) with my 5930k and 16gb Corsair (The best Hynix IC's) and DDR4 @ 3200 15-15-15-35-1T-1.4v. Nothing major.

    Today I noticed while getting into Uncore & RAM overclocking, this board has some major flaws that I feel should be addressed. I can replicate every single issue I am about explain. I can and will make an HD video of this if someone from EVGA would like me to do so.
     
    When setting Uncore in BIOS to 40x then changing any of the individual CPU multipliers, the Uncore reverts back to 3000mhz. The board also exhibits this behavior with the multi at 40x with all the CPU multi's set and pressing enter on the Uncore set at 40x. It will go back and forth from 3000mhz to 4000mhz.

    Here are the issues:
     
    1. Uncore cannot be overclocked past 36x. Intel XTU will allow 1 further adjustment, only 1x however (The Uncore multi also has to be set 1x higher than your CPU multi for it go up at all, I did this with a 40x CPU multi and a 41x Uncore multi. This resulted in 37x Uncore). Anything past this crashes no matter what RING voltage.
     
    2. There is no 1:28 RAM multiplier. Noticed this while overclocking RAM. The RAM I use is very versatile, so when trying to get a handle on certain BCLK/FSB combos I noticed there was no 1:28 multi.
     
    3. PCI-E 1.0 1x devices to not work unless you set them from Auto to Gen 1 or Gen 2, I used Gen 1 and a Sound Blaster ZxR (Not sure if this affects all PCI-E 1x devices).
     
    4. When the above scenario is in play & Gen 1 or 2 for PCI-E 1x add in card has been set, the PCI-E 3.0 16x link used by the GPU randomly links at 8x instead of 16x upon bootup (can be confirmed by entering BIOS, Windows also confirms this)
     
    5. When setting Uncore in BIOS to 40x then changing any of the individual CPU multipliers, the Uncore reverts back to 3000mhz. The board also exhibits this behavior with the multi at 40x with all the CPU multi's set and pressing enter on the Uncore set at 40x. It will go back and forth from 3000mhz to 4000mhz.


     
    So. I believe those 5 issues are quite serious. I personally haven't found any other issues that are specific to this board, however these definitely need attention IMO. I have ranked them in order of (what I think) severity as well. #5, from what I can tell, does not affect functionality. I do not think when the malfunction happens & the Uncore is actually being set to 3000mhz. I believe it only looks as if it's set to 3000mhz.


     
    I hope this is taken seriously. I could live with the fact that every Asus board with their "OC Socket" could clock their Uncores higher than us without a doubt. But BIOS Limited to 36x?
     
    Why? Was this intentional?

    I was under the impression that the Classified brand was your best offering. I have used other X99 board (3 to be exact) & they have not exhibited issues like this one has. I've never seen legitimate findings ignored on this forum anyway. So. EVGA, I await your response. 

    Thanks!
     
    Ty

    *edit*

    Wanted to mention the hardware in my sig is current and in use for anyone wondering what my config consists of (Getting that SM951 was not easy).




     
    this is all good feedback.  I've noticed hard boot lockups requiring CMOS clears with changing uncore and ring ratio to anything other than auto.  I wonder if this is the proper forum or if there is an official way to report bugs to EVGA? 
     
     
    post edited by stayclassified - 2015/04/27 13:13:32
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/04/27 14:02:55 (permalink)
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    I wonder if this is the proper forum or if there is an official way to report bugs to EVGA? 

     
    This is the forums to do so.  Just create your own thread with the issues at hand.

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/04/27 14:08:53 (permalink)
    Sorry to hear about all your problems too! So far I have not had any problems with mine.
     
    "I was under the impression that the Classified brand was your best offering. I have used other X99 board (3 to be exact) & they have not exhibited issues like this one has. I've never seen legitimate findings ignored on this forum anyway. So. EVGA, I await your response."
     
    Can you Please give us some details on each of the other 3 X99 that you have used and tested on?

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/04/29 09:55:07 (permalink)
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    Sorry to hear about all your problems too! So far I have not had any problems with mine.
     
    "I was under the impression that the Classified brand was your best offering. I have used other X99 board (3 to be exact) & they have not exhibited issues like this one has. I've never seen legitimate findings ignored on this forum anyway. So. EVGA, I await your response."
     
    Can you Please give us some details on each of the other 3 X99 that you have used and tested on?


    have you tried to replicate OPs issues.  I think hes right at least with the Uncore and Ring Ratio.  And is the OPs suggested Memory Multiplier objectively there or not there on your BIOS options?
     
    I think this is how BIOS get better they get feedback and this is solid actionable feedback.
    post edited by stayclassified - 2015/04/29 09:58:53
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/04/29 11:02:25 (permalink)
    My uncore no work over 36x...have a limit for this, I set over 36x and need to clear cosmos

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/04/29 12:00:28 (permalink)
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    Sorry to hear about all your problems too! So far I have not had any problems with mine.
     
    "I was under the impression that the Classified brand was your best offering. I have used other X99 board (3 to be exact) & they have not exhibited issues like this one has. I've never seen legitimate findings ignored on this forum anyway. So. EVGA, I await your response."
     
    Can you Please give us some details on each of the other 3 X99 that you have used and tested on?


    have you tried to replicate OPs issues.  I think hes right at least with the Uncore and Ring Ratio.  And is the OPs suggested Memory Multiplier objectively there or not there on your BIOS options?
     
    I think this is how BIOS get better they get feedback and this is solid actionable feedback.


    Yes it is, but no need to add "This boards BIOS is severely flawed."
    feedback is that feedback on a product it is not saying that your products is flawed.
    I also look at this a threating question and not an asked question of EVGA.
    And last I see to many Posts like this and the OP never responds to anyone's comments that have been posted to their Own Thread.
    This is an EVGA Bios and not AUSU or MSI, EVGA works with their users One on One with Bios issues and problems that may come about. They Support their own very well, You yourself even said "this is the proper forum or if there is an official way to report bugs to EVGA? "
     
    And my answer or response to your question. No because the OP has the i7-5930K and I have the i7-5960X.
    I would still like to know what the other 3 X99 Motherboards are, I might get one to pay around with.

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/29 02:24:49 (permalink)
    Same goes for me,  Uncore Clocking cant be done,,  Can gett it upp to 3.7ghz  Sett Ring Voltage to 1.350 Just to know that i have Enough Voltage,   go to 3.8, NO BOOT have to Clear CMOS, And I want to Know how much the System Agent Voltage is running at, Not just som offset, Without knowing the Voltage of it

    Hope there is a New Bios versjon coming out soon,  The system feels very Unstable With  the issue of Uncore GHZ,

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/29 09:28:33 (permalink)
    hello
     
    need  oc socket on the version 2

    Z690 classified start build
     
    X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
    X299 APEX
    X299 rampage Extreme
     
    E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
    E760 X980 
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    Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/29 14:21:39 (permalink)
    I surely hope a new bios will solve my RAID controller issues on PCIe 6 :/
    Any report of USB issues ? My RAID card began working when I plugged my USB peripherals only on USB3 ports :s
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/30 14:46:03 (permalink)
    Check the Der8auer’s Guide for Haswell-E 4GHz+ Uncore (For All Motherboards)
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/30 15:34:27 (permalink)
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    hello
     
    need  oc socket on the version 2



    Intel is still upset with ASUS for doing that on their X99 Boards.

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/31 03:56:30 (permalink)
    hello
     
    asrock and  msi  put new motherboard  with  oc socket and  usb3.1 on board why not EVGA ?
     

    Z690 classified start build
     
    X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
    X299 APEX
    X299 rampage Extreme
     
    E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
    E760 X980 
    E761 I920
    E770 I950
    and SR2's  and SRX's
    Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
    Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
    X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

    X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
    and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

    and other  DFI giga etc  

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/31 10:22:25 (permalink)
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    hello
     
    asrock and  msi  put new motherboard  with  oc socket and  usb3.1 on board why not EVGA ?
     


    Maybe we will see a updated EVGA x99 at computex this next week....I hope they show off a possible EVGA x99 Dark w/ a OC socket :)

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/05/31 13:44:20 (permalink)
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    hello
     
    asrock and  msi  put new motherboard  with  oc socket and  usb3.1 on board why not EVGA ?
     


    Any Photos of your "X99 series.... classified , FTW" setups?
    Your "X79 classified, dark" would also be nice to see.

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/06/04 09:05:24 (permalink)
    i have found on all my problems i have had to this point have been handled fast and fixed by evga techs and for the things they dont do they help u get to someone here that does.and if u have something go bad they call it that way faster than u will and replace it . all about rep. and the brand. still building mine . long slow build do to chash flow lol but whin i got my ram they sent me a new bois chip just so i wouldn't have any problem bring my system up . seee mb was from first ones out pre order that was how far  back my bois was lol so was not going to boot with 8 4g sticks of 3000m ram . so if they know u have a problem they fix it for u befor u know it . just ask and give them a little time and it will all be good :0). all so found tha bcavnaugh will go out of his or her way to help you if u ask . been very big help for me sofar. my spelling and gramer suck sorry
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/06/04 10:34:23 (permalink)
    Hello again

    Here are some pics from the weird menu I can access only when plugging my adaptec 6805 ...
    http://lewebisar.free.fr/...mp/20150529_214534.jpg
    http://lewebisar.free.fr/...mp/20150529_220245.jpg
    http://lewebisar.free.fr/...mp/20150529_215116.jpg
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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/06/04 10:36:44 (permalink)
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    Hello again

    Here are some pics from the weird menu I can access only when plugging my adaptec 6805 ...
    http://lewebisar.free.fr/...mp/20150529_214534.jpg
    http://lewebisar.free.fr/...mp/20150529_220245.jpg
    http://lewebisar.free.fr/...mp/20150529_215116.jpg



    Is your Adaptec 6805 Firmware up to date?

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/06/04 11:54:12 (permalink)
    hello  just some part of my EVGA product  not all sorry
    I need little time  to delete  serial number , my product is in belgium not ine US
     
     
     
     
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    and in this forum sorry is in french  my friend make a test from my all part , I not have some time to make test for my all computer part I'm a  collector guy
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    post edited by cateno - 2015/06/04 19:49:35

    Z690 classified start build
     
    X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
    X299 APEX
    X299 rampage Extreme
     
    E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
    E760 X980 
    E761 I920
    E770 I950
    and SR2's  and SRX's
    Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
    Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
    X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

    X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
    and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

    and other  DFI giga etc  

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/06/04 13:21:05 (permalink)
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    hello  just some part of my EVGA product  not all sorry
     
     
     
     
     
    my name user is street mobo
    and in this forum sorry is in french  my friend make a test from my all part , I not have some time to make test for my all computer part I'm a  collector guy
    http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OverclockingCoolingModding/CPU/classified-maximus-extreme-sujet_280122_1.htm
    http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OverclockingCoolingModding/CPU/haswell-5960x-5930k-sujet_282328_1.htm
    http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OverclockingCoolingModding/CPU/asrock-extreme-club-sujet_277776_1.htm
    http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OverclockingCoolingModding/CPU/evga-gigabyte-asus-sujet_281862_1.htm
    http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/OverclockingCoolingModding/CPU/evga-dark-discussions-sujet_280331_1.htm
    and all part not listed  in my signature  I have  a lot of computer  started my collection at 1985
    cubieboard raspeberry pi banana pi orange pi  and this  minicard computer have a  place in my collection
     



    You really need to DELETE YOUR IMAGE WITH SERIAL NUMBERS
    Or Cut them out of your images.
     
    Not sure what you are asking about in reference to the X99 Classified Motherboard?
     
    cateno I will also PM you about your Serial Numbers. 
    post edited by bcavnaugh - 2015/06/04 13:27:23

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    Re: The X99 Classified needs some major work. This boards BIOS is severely flawed. 2015/06/04 20:15:16 (permalink)
    hello
     
    is done
     
     

    Z690 classified start build
     
    X299 DARK  7900X 7740x soon 7980X
    X299 APEX
    X299 rampage Extreme
     
    E762 W3520@4.2  E679 2600k
    E760 X980 
    E761 I920
    E770 I950
    and SR2's  and SRX's
    Z87 classified , MVIE built with 4770K
    Z97 classified , ftw Z97 ,  MFVII  only wait for gigabyte LN2 
    X99 series.... classified , FTW , RE5 , oc formula, profesional , X11 , soc force , msi gaming9ack

    X79 classified, dark and RIVE, RIVBE,, xtreme11
    and many classified a panel from EVGA  no just one sample

    and other  DFI giga etc  

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