chrisdglong
Fanboys always say no... But, consumers always say yes! Fermi came out, meanwhile... AMD partners had already released the vapor chamber... What did Nvidia do? Released the vapor chamber... Sorry, Nvidia fanboys, but I will go with AMD next. Nvidia is crap lately. HBM... Where is Nvidia? Years later, we will see HBM... Just like years later we finally found multi-monitor support done properly... meaning, after Eyefinity. I had three monitors and AMD was allowing Eyefinity, while Nvidia had nothing... I had to go with WSGF's solution.

kaninja
Not going to happen. Sometimes it is best to focus on one thing and do it really well.

ARMYguy
I have a shield tablet since release, and its rock solid to this day, even survives what my son throws at it. I have ordered all kinds of things on Nvidia store, and never had an issue. Actually the sales went through even faster than evga orders. So...... not sure what you are talking about.
 
I always thought AMD cards are best bought from AMD themselves, that is how ATi used to do it.

seth89

stalinx20

chrisdglong
Fanboys always say no... But, consumers always say yes! Fermi came out, meanwhile... AMD partners had already released the vapor chamber... What did Nvidia do? Released the vapor chamber... Sorry, Nvidia fanboys, but I will go with AMD next. Nvidia is crap lately. HBM... Where is Nvidia? Years later, we will see HBM... Just like years later we finally found multi-monitor support done properly... meaning, after Eyefinity. I had three monitors and AMD was allowing Eyefinity, while Nvidia had nothing... I had to go with WSGF's solution.

Nvidia already thought of HBM last year and wasnt going to release it until their Pascal series. Nvidia tends to follow the "trend" of technology, and wants to keep it at the consumers wants/needs. Nvidia could have launched HBM, but we were not ready for it last year.
 

 
We weren't what? 
I thought it was a brand new JEDEC memory spec co-developed by SK Hynix and AMD...
I understand that the Pascal GPU will use a 2nd gen version of the HBM in 2016-17 but how were we not ready for Nvidia to release HMB last year if Hynix and AMD just developed it?
 
Nvidia might just be a step behind AMD for the next 2 generations of cards. From the looks of AMDs road map it looks like they will release their "Arctic Islands" (or what ever name they give) GPU the same year Pascal is released. At that point AMD will also be using 2nd gen HBM and will have even more experience with how HBM behaves then Nvidia. 
 
OR Im completely wrong and I would like to see a few articles on Nvidia's HBM development.
(any body can post them to me, thanks.)

stalinx20

Brad_Hawthorne

stalinx20
Nvidia already thought of HBM last year and wasnt going to release it until their Pascal series. Nvidia tends to follow the "trend" of technology, and wants to keep it at the consumers wants/needs. Nvidia could have launched HBM, but we were not ready for it last year.

That statement makes absolutely no sense to me... I guess we're lucky you're not doing marketing for Nvidia.

It makes perfect sense. We don't have the tech to support Pascal....
 
 
What exactly happened when PCIE 3.0 was introduced? they couldnt even test it out because there were no GPUs that had PCIE 3.0 when PCIE 3.0 was released. Same is going to happen with Pascal... your Processor will be your biggest bottleneck. GPUs (Both AMD/Nvidia) are going to surprass the CPU very quickly, and when that happens, Intel/AMD is going to have to step up and fully redesign their processors with a different material, or a different form of architecture to meet the new GPUs, for both AMD/Nvidia. This isnt some new myth or something. You will have to buy that new processor to match what Pascal shows, the "3770k" will then be the "Pentium".