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2015/05/03 13:57:33 (permalink)
Why does Precision X gather information about your personal documents and install tracking cookies on your computer? What is the purpose of this information gathering and how is it used?
 
Precision X trolling internet browsing history:
 
4:20:01.3283289 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History    NAME COLLISION    Desired Access: Read Data/List Directory, Synchronize, Disposition: Create, Options: Directory, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Open Reparse Point, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, Write, AllocationSize: 0
4:20:01.3284213 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Read Attributes, Disposition: Open, Options: Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:01.3284370 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 3/15/2015 8:21:26 PM, LastAccessTime: 3/15/2015 8:24:13 PM, LastWriteTime: 3/15/2015 8:24:13 PM, ChangeTime: 3/15/2015 8:24:13 PM, FileAttributes: SD
4:20:01.3284451 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History    SUCCESS    
4:20:01.3285370 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.IE5    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Read Attributes, Disposition: Open, Options: Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:01.3285521 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.IE5    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 3/15/2015 8:22:34 PM, LastAccessTime: 5/3/2015 1:32:46 AM, LastWriteTime: 5/3/2015 1:32:46 AM, ChangeTime: 5/3/2015 1:32:46 AM, FileAttributes: HSDNCI
4:20:01.3285599 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History\History.IE5    SUCCESS    


4:20:01.8490589 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCache\IE\ETK8G1K3    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Read Attributes, Disposition: Open, Options: Open Reparse Point, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
 
Precision X accessing tracking cookies:
 
4:20:01.3365547 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCookies\IX7UX3B9.txt    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: N, ShareMode: Read, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:01.3365831 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryStandardInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCookies\IX7UX3B9.txt    SUCCESS    AllocationSize: 80, EndOfFile: 74, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
4:20:01.3365966 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    ReadFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCookies\IX7UX3B9.txt    SUCCESS    Offset: 0, Length: 74, Priority: Normal
4:20:01.3366448 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INetCookies\IX7UX3B9.txt    SUCCESS    


 
Precision X collection information about your personal directories and OneDrive:
 
4:20:02.7196985 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Desktop\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:02.7197253 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryStandardInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Desktop\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    AllocationSize: 288, EndOfFile: 282, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
4:20:02.7197344 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    ReadFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Desktop\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Offset: 0, Length: 282, Priority: Normal
4:20:02.7197530 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Desktop\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastAccessTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastWriteTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, ChangeTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, FileAttributes: HSA
4:20:02.7197609 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Desktop\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    
4:20:02.7204744 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:02.7205003 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryStandardInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    AllocationSize: 408, EndOfFile: 402, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
4:20:02.7205096 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    ReadFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Offset: 0, Length: 402, Priority: Normal
4:20:02.7205292 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastAccessTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastWriteTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, ChangeTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, FileAttributes: HSA
4:20:02.7205370 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Documents\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    
4:20:02.7208418 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Music\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:02.7208671 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryStandardInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Music\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    AllocationSize: 504, EndOfFile: 504, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
4:20:02.7208756 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    ReadFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Music\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Offset: 0, Length: 504, Priority: Normal
4:20:02.7208951 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Music\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastAccessTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastWriteTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, ChangeTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, FileAttributes: HSA
4:20:02.7209027 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Music\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    
4:20:02.7212111 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Pictures\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:02.7212364 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryStandardInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Pictures\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    AllocationSize: 504, EndOfFile: 504, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
4:20:02.7212448 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    ReadFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Pictures\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Offset: 0, Length: 504, Priority: Normal
4:20:02.7212641 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Pictures\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastAccessTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastWriteTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, ChangeTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, FileAttributes: HSA
4:20:02.7212716 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Pictures\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    
4:20:02.7215800 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Videos\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:02.7216080 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryStandardInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Videos\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    AllocationSize: 504, EndOfFile: 504, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
4:20:02.7216171 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    ReadFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Videos\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Offset: 0, Length: 504, Priority: Normal
4:20:02.7216390 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Videos\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastAccessTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastWriteTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, ChangeTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, FileAttributes: HSA
4:20:02.7216466 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Videos\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    
4:20:02.7219511 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Downloads\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a, OpenResult: Opened
4:20:02.7219764 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryStandardInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Downloads\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    AllocationSize: 288, EndOfFile: 282, NumberOfLinks: 1, DeletePending: False, Directory: False
4:20:02.7219848 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    ReadFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Downloads\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    Offset: 0, Length: 282, Priority: Normal
4:20:02.7220026 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    QueryBasicInformationFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Downloads\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    CreationTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastAccessTime: 2/9/2014 12:35:44 PM, LastWriteTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, ChangeTime: 3/21/2015 11:43:18 AM, FileAttributes: HSA
4:20:02.7220101 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CloseFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\Downloads\desktop.ini    SUCCESS    
4:20:02.7223333 PM    PrecisionX_x64.exe    6492    CreateFile    C:\Users\xxxxx\OneDrive\desktop.ini    PATH NOT FOUND    Desired Access: Generic Read, Disposition: Open, Options: Sequential Access, Synchronous IO Non-Alert, Non-Directory File, Attributes: n/a, ShareMode: Read, Write, Delete, AllocationSize: n/a



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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/03 14:09:25 (permalink)
    I see no personal documents
    By choosing to download the software, you affirm that EVGA PrecisionX is supplied "as-is". EVGA Corporation assumes no liability for damages, direct or consequential, which may result from the use of EVGA PrecisionX.
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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/03 20:09:17 (permalink)
    bcavnaugh
    I see no personal documents
    By choosing to download the software, you affirm that EVGA PrecisionX is supplied "as-is". EVGA Corporation assumes no liability for damages, direct or consequential, which may result from the use of EVGA PrecisionX.




    Anybody have an answer to the question?

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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/03 20:10:32 (permalink)
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    I see no personal documents
    By choosing to download the software, you affirm that EVGA PrecisionX is supplied "as-is". EVGA Corporation assumes no liability for damages, direct or consequential, which may result from the use of EVGA PrecisionX.




    Anybody have an answer to the question?


    You might have to wait until a work day, only one day away.
     
    I would think that it is only seeing if you are logging in to a game site to get your settings.

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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/03 21:05:43 (permalink)
    I think B is correct. Don't forget that some programs will use gpu acceleration, which an overclocking program would see since it is using the gpu. That may be what you are seeing.

    If it bothers you, simply remove it until you get the answer.
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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 13:39:02 (permalink)
    Not in a hurry for an answer, just keeping the thread on point.
     
    we dont actually have to guess at what its doing, its clearly there in my post if you understand what youre looking at. i wanted to hold off on making any assumptions as to what its doing with the gathered information until evga got a chance to answer. basically, i would encourage you not to speculate until an official answer is posted. it wont help anything.
     
    it looks like people are interested in this, but might not quite be sure what they are looking at. essentially its a small snippet of precision x's file activity, where i logged it reading and writing to files you wouldnt normally think it has any buisness accessing. of course programs are expected to maintain configuration files, but this type of accessing normally places software in the malware category. at minimum, it deserves an official response from evga as to why this is necessary.
     
    it will be interesting to see the official response as to why precision x needs to be doing anything with my OneDrive or Music folder, let alone reading your entire internet history and cookies. refrain from making a snap judgements until they respond though, there is likely some valid reasons for some of the things they are doing. my personal opinion is that it doesnt bother me how they are using it, but would like to see an honest answer at least. regardless of how they feel about companies selling personal information, people buy evga products when there looking to increase the performance of their pcs and might not care for the fact that its wasting cpu cycles gathering personal information

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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 13:47:35 (permalink)
    You should check out that Steam and Origin do when they run, Ouch!

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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 14:24:50 (permalink)
    Annonm, you haven't seen what happens when people ask for an official response have you? This is a user based forum with a few EVGA employees that pop in and look around, usually when directed by a moderator (EVGA employees are not allowed to moderate the forums from my understanding.)

    Hopefully you get an answer, but just like Facebook accessing everything, if you run any audio out through hdmi, then you are going to have precision and any other gpu based software looking at any audio files or Internet files that have to display anything through the gpu. It all ties in. That isn't speculation, since when you open browsers, or anything that activates audio or video, running through the audio files of the gpu, the core clock jumps slightly then falls off again.

    Facebook requests access to every single thing on your computer and everyone panics. "it needs permission to o0en my camera, oh hell no!" if you try to take a picture with Facebook or post, it requires access to those files. Same thing here.
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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 15:18:38 (permalink)
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    you haven't seen what happens when people ask for an official response have you?



    I can understand what you are trying to say here but it really doesn't matter. if evga wants to post an official response, they will.
     
    Also, I cant stop you from speculating, but i hope you at least realize it's exactly what you are doing.

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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 15:43:11 (permalink)
    Yes, I know it is.  Try going into your browser and disabling the gpu assistance. 
     
    I am speculating answers, because like I said, EVGA doesn't usually answer these sort of questions unless prodded by a moderator.. I don't see them popping in just yet. 
     
    You can send your request to support if you want an answer, since this is a user based forum, as I stated earlier.  If you really want an answer, ping them and then post the response.
     
    P.S.  If you want to get their attention, you won't care that I am speculating and you will just ignore me, since I "bump" your thread to the top of every unread list when I post.  Since you stated earlier that your were only replying to get their attention, don't get bothered by someone helping you.  
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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 18:26:07 (permalink)
    I appreciate the help you're trying to offer, but it isn't needed. In your last comment you seem upset and I'm sorry if I've offended you, that wasn't my intention. I just don't want to waste time offtopic.
     
    And on that note... I think people on this forum try really hard to squeeze every bit of performance out of their systems, and I also think they honestly would like to know how something is affecting their machine. With all the hours, effort, time and of course money you spend on your machine, you want to know all that isn't being offset for the wrong reasons. People literally have a vested interest in this question. And with all the recent criticism PX is getting for its instability and issues, I for one would like to know how much of that could have been avoided if it weren't trying to do so many other things. But now I'm speculating.
     
    So I would like to still see a response, but barring that, I think there's more work to be done here as well. I would need some help though. Is anyone else actually interested in this that would be willing to volunteer some time to help run this to the ground? You wouldn't need any special knowledge, but I would need a handful of people's help.

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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 18:47:02 (permalink)
    We are looking into this, what application are you using to monitor the process activity?


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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 20:01:51 (permalink)
    I will help, I have no problem helping, but you need to say how first.

    And no, I am not upset nor have you upset me, and neither do you ever need to apologize for anything.

    It is good to see Jacob coming in and offering to look into it. Hopefully they get the information quick.
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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/04 23:18:16 (permalink)
    We have looked into this and found the following reasons that it is accessing those directories:
    • Checking the EVGA web server for any updated versions (this is related to the IE entries)
    • Using XML to access PrecisionX profile setting and multi language files


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    Re: Precision X collection of personal information 2015/05/09 13:05:29 (permalink)
    Thanks for the reply EVGA_JacobF. Can you clarify your second bullet? It's a little too vague to make any sense.
     
    Are you saying that some of this behavior is due to a third party XML parsing library and not attributable to something PX is doing? And that this explains the "non IE related entries"? The point is that, although seemingly harmless, it's a strange behavior to see PX doing a full scan of desktop customizations for any purpose (profiles and localization included.) A more substantial response could easily put this topic to rest.

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