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PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K

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2015/04/25 18:04:20 (permalink)
hi running a PCI-e SSD with a 970GTX in slot 1 and no matter what i do, I have tried all the slots, for the ssd 2,3,4...the Video card in slot one reads PCI-E 3.0 8x???? and the ssd is at PCI-E 2.0 2x?
if i remove the ssd i can get 16x on the 1 video card, but not with anything else plugged in, even put the ssd in slot 6 same result...HELP!

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    Randoo1212
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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/27 02:28:19 (permalink)
    put the ssd in slot 3 gpu in slot 1 should fix your problem
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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/27 04:44:35 (permalink)
    Nope no effect... I put the gp in slot 2 and the ssd in 1 and bam...works...found another thread about sli video cards not working unless in 2 and 4...evga this is weird....

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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/27 04:48:53 (permalink)
    Have you updated to the latest BIOS for this board (I believe version 1.08)? Are you using any other PCI-E cards, like a sound card or a PCI-E SSD?

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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/27 06:36:47 (permalink)
    Yes to bios, and all that's in there is 1 970gtx and 1 pcie 2x ssd
    I was planning on sli but now not sure, I have another 970gtx and a 295x2, might go 295x2 and sell 970's but this board issue is frustrating 
    no reason why gfx card on slot 1 can't run full speed with a 2x ssd on any other slot....even slot 6

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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/28 11:33:36 (permalink)
    Actually, it would really help to do a quick google search first.
     
    This thread should answer you problem: http://forums.evga.com/8x16x-not-16x16x-m2185490.aspx
     
    Also, PCI-E 3 8x will not bottleneck your GFX card, it's more than sufficient to run a 970 at max speed.
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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/28 12:00:00 (permalink)
    If anything is installed in any slots, pcie lane 1 will go to x8. The cpu only has 16 lanes. Add one item and that only leave a maximum of 15 lanes.

    Installing the gpu in lanes 2 or 4 will allow the plx to run at x16, but the cpu is still only feeding the plx 8 lanes total.

    That is a limiting factor of the cpu, not the motherboard. No matter what, you can not create extra cpu lanes. Only mimic them with the plx chip.
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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/28 14:51:23 (permalink)
    i did see that thread, its still weird tho....not mentioned anywhere in the manuals or revisions. so time to step up to x99 this x97 isnt going to cut it....does that mean that a 295X2 will run aok on the PLX x16?

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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/28 14:58:21 (permalink)
    Answer this question. Will your card actually run faster at x16 compared to x8. Answer it.. No. It will not.

    Don't believe me, run your system off of an ssd through the sata port. Test the gpu at x16. Then install the other ssd and test it x8. 0.001% difference. If you have money to spend and you want to justify x99, do so, but it won't give you any more performance.

    The 295x2 will run fine on x8 and on x16 with plx since it is still getting x8 lanes.
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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/28 15:10:57 (permalink)
    easy there Scarlet....I was just asking since putting in a card on slot one usually nets x16, coming from an x58 with oc'd cpu, never had issues with pci lanes like i seem to have with this, i understand these are 3.0 spec, but it was puzzling why it wasnt clocking up, now i know to a degree, its the plx screwing up the order of the slots and their workings, still rather have the extra lanes to play with...bought the classified becasue my x58 classified did well minus wonky usb ports, thought this one would rock the house too...

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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/04/28 15:22:50 (permalink)
    That board does rock. The plx isn't honestly an issue, it is the cpu limitations. The 5820k would only have enough lanes to run one lane at x16 and one at x8. The 5930k would have enough for two at x16.

    As stated, the 4790k at x8 usually outperforms the x99 platform. The benchmarks have shown that for quite some time. It isn't 100% always better, but for daily gaming.

    If you are doing production work, the x99 will outperform. But gaming, the 4790k dominates on average.
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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/05/27 23:45:29 (permalink)
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    Re: PCI-E issue Z97 Classified with 4970K 2015/05/28 08:25:56 (permalink)
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