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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/24 12:16:29
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I fail at this quote thing. Think about when 4k monitors are pushing 120hz/144hz. - stalinx20 Drool.................... :) [font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; line-height: normal; background-color: #f7f7f7"]
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/25 12:02:47
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mstoll23 I fail at this quote thing. Think about when 4k monitors are pushing 120hz/144hz. - stalinx20 Drool.................... :) [font="verdana, geneva, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; font-weight: bold; line-height: normal; background-color: #f7f7f7"]
HAHA. I'm not quite sure where you're going with that, but My only speculation is NV Link will help push the graphics card to run at 120hz/144hz when the 4k monitors are able to go that high. Right now it's too early to tell what kind of bandwidth it will provide, but i'm sure we all can tell it's going to take alot more than a single PCIE bus to pump 144hz on a 4k monitor, right?
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/25 15:08:37
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/25 22:59:44
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swordfish1030 I just purchased an EVGA 04G-P4-3975-KR and now as I read about them online I find out that even it has the 3.5gb mess going on. I have not yet received my card and I simply want a refund for the false advertisement and claims. The Vendor NewEgg will not issue a refund and said that EVGA will have to address the problem.
Don't ever buy from New Egg. Amazon would have issued a refund with no questions asked.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/26 01:57:28
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bsmegreg I wanna point out that in OCCT yesterday, I had my 970 doing a 2GB error check on 640x400 which was using 3.9GB of vram and my FPS was a mess. My FPS would literally go from 200 to 600 back down to 300 in seconds and continue doing that. I don't know if it was an issue with my Vram or something else but it was unusual seeing as most things I do have a fairly constant FPS (+-10), but they don't use over 3.5GB so maybe there really is a stability issue over the 3.5 mark.
Your FPS "as a mess" since it's KNOWN that when you exceed your card's available Vmem (3,9GB IS exceeding it since we know it's already digging into the "slow" portion)...Windows creates a 8GB pagefile on your HD. This happens with OC Scanner 3GB test and with your OCCT test. When your HD accesses its pagefile during a game or test, OF COURSE your FPS will be a mess. It's said that 16GB of system memory fixes this since with 16GB of memory the 8GB pagefile is not created. So let me guess, you only have 8GB of system memory? Edit: And I would GLADLY take the OP's 3975 seeing what trash the 2974 is. Seriously, you guys have 1st world problems. Like I said elsewhere, 99,99% you won't ever see anything from this "3.5GB problem" in real life. At the time when we have many games which would need so much video memory, the GTX 970 AND the 980, both will already be very outdated and no one would give a darn about any of those cards anyway. I can run BF4 at 160% display scaling and all on Ultra AND MSAA and don't hit more than 3.5GB...and I can run GTA V with almost anything at max AND MSAA x4 and it uses 3GB....there is no situation *but* synthetic benchmarks where this "issue" would cause a real problem.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/26 08:43:02
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lol... First world problems. What do you think these forums are for?
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/26 08:44:54
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RainStryke lol... First world problems. What do you think these forums are for?
Ha..witty..Love it :) You're right of course :)
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/26 08:48:43
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RainStryke lol... First world problems. What do you think these forums are for?
You just became my hero for the day, lol.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/26 21:01:16
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Just for reference for the OP Newegg accepted both of my 970's back after owning them for over 4 months on 3-3-15. They even paid for shipping and gave me a 100% refund with no restocking fee. I used the customer support chat and it took about 10 minutes.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/26 21:11:04
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flexy123
bsmegreg I wanna point out that in OCCT yesterday, I had my 970 doing a 2GB error check on 640x400 which was using 3.9GB of vram and my FPS was a mess. My FPS would literally go from 200 to 600 back down to 300 in seconds and continue doing that. I don't know if it was an issue with my Vram or something else but it was unusual seeing as most things I do have a fairly constant FPS (+-10), but they don't use over 3.5GB so maybe there really is a stability issue over the 3.5 mark.
Your FPS "as a mess" since it's KNOWN that when you exceed your card's available Vmem (3,9GB IS exceeding it since we know it's already digging into the "slow" portion)...Windows creates a 8GB pagefile on your HD. This happens with OC Scanner 3GB test and with your OCCT test.
When your HD accesses its pagefile during a game or test, OF COURSE your FPS will be a mess. It's said that 16GB of system memory fixes this since with 16GB of memory the 8GB pagefile is not created. So let me guess, you only have 8GB of system memory? Edit: And I would GLADLY take the OP's 3975 seeing what trash the 2974 is. Seriously, you guys have 1st world problems. Like I said elsewhere, 99,99% you won't ever see anything from this "3.5GB problem" in real life. At the time when we have many games which would need so much video memory, the GTX 970 AND the 980, both will already be very outdated and no one would give a darn about any of those cards anyway. I can run BF4 at 160% display scaling and all on Ultra AND MSAA and don't hit more than 3.5GB...and I can run GTA V with almost anything at max AND MSAA x4 and it uses 3GB....there is no situation *but* synthetic benchmarks where this "issue" would cause a real problem.
I have 16GB so I'm not sure what your getting at here. You could of looked at my Mods Rigs and figured that out too. But I decided it was just the nature of the program that did that anyways and it's probably not the card. I still think they should of made the 970 as a 3GB card like it was designed to be instead of adding the extra GB with .5 of it being crap. Oh well...
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/26 22:49:56
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If the GTX970 is not good enough for you, step it up to a GTX980 or GTX980Ti when they launch within the step-up window.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/27 05:54:56
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swordfish1030 I just purchased an EVGA 04G-P4-3975-KR and now as I read about them online I find out that even it has the 3.5gb mess going on. I have not yet received my card and I simply want a refund for the false advertisement and claims. The Vendor NewEgg will not issue a refund and said that EVGA will have to address the problem.
Don't ever buy from New Egg. Amazon would have issued a refund with no questions asked.
I'm really starting to understand that - to not buy from Newegg, and if you're a prime member with Amazon, you get even a bigger bonus, and better savings.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/27 09:12:23
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MrImSoGood That depends on the game(s) you're playing Even with absolutely no no AA, even @1080 GTA 5 eats up some memory
I feel like people are blowing GTA V system requirements way out of the water. GTA V really doesn't eat that much video memory at all, if you don't have MSAA and shadows turned on/all the way up. I had settings nearly maxed out on my wife's 970 @1080, MSAA turned to 4x, and it still wasn't using close to 4Gb. Even with my 1x3 Surround set up and the 970 in my system, all I had to do was disable MSAA and reflection AA, and the memory usage stayed under 3.5Gb. If I had more posts, I'd gladly show screenshots. I mean, we're talking about a 970 here, so some concessions have to be made if you're wanting to play the game at 60fps in 1080, Surround, or 4K on a single card. With all that said, the card is remarkable, and - aside from disabling all forms of AA and shadow options in Advanced Graphics while in Surround mode - I never had to turn any of the settings lower than "High" to produce very playable framerates.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/27 12:00:52
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Swordfish - for what it's worth, see below review about SSC model: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/82060-evga-gtx-970-ssc-sli-vs-titan-x-r9-295x2/ A quote from their first paragraph under the "conclusion" tab : Conclusion The GeForce GTX 970 remains a good GPU for full-HD or QHD gaming even with the recent 'Memorygate' issue fresh in enthusiasts' minds. Available from £255 in reference form and significantly faster once a high-profile partner has given it the OC treatment, such as EVGA with the SSC variant, putting two cards in one system offers enough performance for them to be a viable solution at a lofty 4K resolution. Edit : I couldn't be happier with the 970 SSC models. They're really good!
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/27 14:32:18
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stalinx20 Swordfish - for what it's worth, see below review about SSC model:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/82060-evga-gtx-970-ssc-sli-vs-titan-x-r9-295x2/ A quote from their first paragraph under the "conclusion" tab :
Conclusion
The GeForce GTX 970 remains a good GPU for full-HD or QHD gaming even with the recent 'Memorygate' issue fresh in enthusiasts' minds. Available from £255 in reference form and significantly faster once a high-profile partner has given it the OC treatment, such as EVGA with the SSC variant, putting two cards in one system offers enough performance for them to be a viable solution at a lofty 4K resolution. Edit : I couldn't be happier with the 970 SSC models. They're really good!
I think swordfish1030 only posted the question or he/she is out of town. I have PM swordfish1030 but get to reply.
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Re: Will EVGA give a refund on the GTX 970 I just purchased?
2015/04/27 16:04:24
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stalinx20 Swordfish - for what it's worth, see below review about SSC model:
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/82060-evga-gtx-970-ssc-sli-vs-titan-x-r9-295x2/ A quote from their first paragraph under the "conclusion" tab :
Conclusion
The GeForce GTX 970 remains a good GPU for full-HD or QHD gaming even with the recent 'Memorygate' issue fresh in enthusiasts' minds. Available from £255 in reference form and significantly faster once a high-profile partner has given it the OC treatment, such as EVGA with the SSC variant, putting two cards in one system offers enough performance for them to be a viable solution at a lofty 4K resolution. Edit : I couldn't be happier with the 970 SSC models. They're really good!
I think swordfish1030 only posted the question or he/she is out of town. I have PM swordfish1030 but get to reply.
Eh, well... if it's worth anything to anyone else thinking about the SSC model, or if someone asks you guys, that's a good review regarding the SSC. someone on the NVidia forums posted it.
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