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2015/03/10 17:11:34 (permalink)
Hello, I recently set up a new build with EVGA X79 Dark and 8x8GB of G.Skill memory (F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL). I want this system for Linux but as usual I did a test install with Windows 7 so I can run burn-in tests to make sure everything is okay. During installation the system would freeze, BSOD, and sometimes just randomly reboot. After many attempts I finally got Window 7 installed, but the random restart continues. I tried installing Linux and it would do the same thing. I tried many different BIOS, swapped out video card, power supply, but the crashes continue. I have tested the memory with memTest86+ and all the memory tests fine. I also ran Intel Burn Test for about 15+ loops and there was no problem during the burn in test, but sometimes when idling, it would just freeze or restart. Finally, reading the BSOD error messages (IRQ Not Less or Equal, Page Fault in Nonpaged Area, several others), I think the issue is with the memory so I took out the memory and put in Crucial memory of the same size. And I was able to install Windows 7 without any problems, ran a few loops of Intel Burn Test, and I am currently installing a test run of Linux.
 
So if you have the above G.Skill memory along with X79 Dark, I wonder if you have the same issue? If you are thinking of buying this memory for your X79 Dark, my advice is - don't do it.
 


 
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:13:43 (permalink)
    I do not see F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL on their list?
    http://www.evga.com/support/motherboard/
     
    Are you on Bios 2.13?
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:16:17 (permalink)
    They rarely update the list, so it isn't surprising that it doesn't show up. This isn't ASUS who do extensive testing to check their compatibility across the board.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:19:15 (permalink)
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    They rarely update the list, so it isn't surprising that it doesn't show up. This isn't ASUS who do extensive testing to check their compatibility across the board.

    They sure have for the X99 Motherboard CPU's to. I am on my X79 Dark as I write this post. It is a Great MB.
    I have 8 CMZ16GX3M4A2400C9 installed and they too are not one the List but Work Great, but I am only running them at 2133MHz.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:23:21 (permalink)
    I am running this G.Skill memory (F3-17000CL11Q2-64GBZLD) as I am typing this on my everyday machine and I have no issue either. It is also not on the list in your link. I almost never go by the QVL because a quad channel memory should just work. I am just pointing out the memory in my OP, from my experience, is not compatible with X79 Dark. The X79 Dark is a good motherboard features wise, but unfortunately, has several compatibility issues.
     


     
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:28:46 (permalink)
    LFaWolf
    I am running this G.Skill memory (F3-17000CL11Q2-64GBZLD) as I am typing this on my everyday machine and I have no issue either. It is also not on the list in your link. I almost never go by the QVL because a quad channel memory should just work. I am just pointing out the memory in my OP, from my experience, is not compatible with X79 Dark. The X79 Dark is a good motherboard features wise, but unfortunately, has several compatibility issues.
     


    OK then, F3-17000CL11Q2-64GBZLD on G.SKILL Web Site also shows no support for EVGA Motherboards.
    I just think you are being unfair to EVGA is all. Also the i7-4920K, i7-4930K, i7-4960X recommended per G.SKILL Web Site for GIGABYTE & MSI Motherboards but not for the ASUS Motherboard and only the P9X79 DELUXE (x8 DIMM) is supported.
    Also most require you to use 8 DIMMs.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:33:29 (permalink)
    Yeah, I have the x79 Dark as well, doesn't mean they have updated the QVL for it. 5 pages of ram for an Asus motherboard, let that sink in when EVGA only took the time to test 59 different part numbers and won't update it further, as this list is exactly as it was months ago.


    The x79 Dark has 17 tested RAM on the QVL. 17... that isn't even attempting to try.


    Op, I have Corsair Ram, so I unfortunately can't test it to help out. Have you tried filling 1, 2, 4, 6, and then 8 slots? Making sure it isn't a DIMM slot causing the issue rather than the ram?
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:39:09 (permalink)
    I wonder if this is just ASUS Owners Trolling now.

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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:40:35 (permalink)
    Sure could be, but then again, Asus boards work a heck of a lot better, so maybe they know how to invest in their trolling, and win the majority of customers.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:41:02 (permalink)
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    I am running this G.Skill memory (F3-17000CL11Q2-64GBZLD) as I am typing this on my everyday machine and I have no issue either. It is also not on the list in your link. I almost never go by the QVL because a quad channel memory should just work. I am just pointing out the memory in my OP, from my experience, is not compatible with X79 Dark. The X79 Dark is a good motherboard features wise, but unfortunately, has several compatibility issues.
     


    OK then, F3-17000CL11Q2-64GBZLD on G.SKILL Web Site also shows no support for EVGA Motherboards.
    I just think you are being unfair to EVGA is all. Also the i7-4920K, i7-4930K, i7-4960X recommended per G.SKILL Web Site for GIGABYTE & MSI Motherboards but not for the ASUS Motherboard and only the P9X79 DELUXE (x8 DIMM) is supported.


    By my count I have done 6 builds using X79 Dark and by now I can say I like my RIVE better, which I have done 4 builds. I have no problems recommending Dark, but given the choice I would choose the RIVE which I think has less problems. Whatever G.Skills has recommended, I understand, but to me, the CPU and memory should just work. 


     
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:42:53 (permalink)
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    Yeah, I have the x79 Dark as well, doesn't mean they have updated the QVL for it. 5 pages of ram for an Asus motherboard, let that sink in when EVGA only took the time to test 59 different part numbers and won't update it further, as this list is exactly as it was months ago.


    The x79 Dark has 17 tested RAM on the QVL. 17... that isn't even attempting to try.


    Op, I have Corsair Ram, so I unfortunately can't test it to help out. Have you tried filling 1, 2, 4, 6, and then 8 slots? Making sure it isn't a DIMM slot causing the issue rather than the ram?

    I swapped the memory with Crucial memory and has no problem. Btw the Crucial memory are actually 2x8GB kit and I am using 4 kits. Just don't tell them that. 


     
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:44:22 (permalink)
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    Yeah, I have the x79 Dark as well, doesn't mean they have updated the QVL for it. 5 pages of ram for an Asus motherboard, let that sink in when EVGA only took the time to test 59 different part numbers and won't update it further, as this list is exactly as it was months ago.


    The x79 Dark has 17 tested RAM on the QVL. 17... that isn't even attempting to try.


    Op, I have Corsair Ram, so I unfortunately can't test it to help out. Have you tried filling 1, 2, 4, 6, and then 8 slots? Making sure it isn't a DIMM slot causing the issue rather than the ram?

    I swapped the memory with Crucial memory and has no problem. Btw the Crucial memory are actually 2x8GB kit and I am using 4 kits. Just don't tell them that. 


    I am SO telling! The Ram police will be there soon enough!.. lol.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:47:51 (permalink)
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    Sure could be, but then again, Asus boards work a heck of a lot better, so maybe they know how to invest in their trolling, and win the majority of customers.

    They are only OK for their cost I do have two of their ROG Motherboards. Rampage IV Formula & Maximus V Extreme.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 17:58:07 (permalink)
    Basically what this comes down to is opinion. In my opinion, EVGA is not a good MB manufacturer, and they don't invest in the research to keep their progress (notice the regression of features from the dark to the x99 Classified...)

    Anyway, this is all off topic and not helping the OP. If it is to continue, start another thread.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/03/10 18:50:11 (permalink)
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    Basically what this comes down to is opinion. In my opinion, EVGA is not a good MB manufacturer, and they don't invest in the research to keep their progress (notice the regression of features from the dark to the x99 Classified...)

    Anyway, this is all off topic and not helping the OP. If it is to continue, start another thread.

    I absolutely love EVGA customer service. If you have a problem you create a ticket, and you hear back that same day or the next day. It is why just about all my video cards and many MBs and PSUs are made by EVGA. If they make memory or SSDs, I will probably buy them too. I hope they will never go out of business.
    That said, other manufacturers are catching on. Just the other day I was browsing the GTX 970 and 980, and saw the ASUS Strix and Gigabyte Windforce with free backplates. They look good too and perform well.
    Right now EVGA PSUs are still the best bang for the bucks. As for video cards, it would be a toss up. EVGA for the customer service and extended warranty that you can buy, or ASUS/Gigabyte but not so good customer service.


     
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/01 14:41:58 (permalink)
    I was able to confirm this is indeed an incompatibility issue. I got my hands on another EVGA X79 Dark and updated the BIOS to 2.13. I tested the memory with memTest86+ (passed), installed Windows 7 without any issues/blue screen, but it failed Intel Burn Test. I then took out just the memory, and tested with Crucial Ballistix Sports and Intel Burn Test completed without any problems.
     
    I then tested the same setup (video card, PSU, CPU cooler, keyboard/mouse) using an ASUS X79 Deluxe (the black and gold edition) with the G.Skill memory.  memTest86+ (passed), installed Windows 7 without any issues/blue screen, and it passed Intel Burn Test.
     
    Everything was run on stock, no OC at all.
     
    Not sure why or what is the cause. If you have X79 Dark and thinking of getting this memory, I recommend no, even though it is currently on sale at Newegg for a very attractive price.
     
     
     


     
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/01 23:01:20 (permalink)
    I think that memory would still be fine if you loosen up the timings just a bit in the BIOs and maybe try increasing the DIMM voltage just a little tiny bit. 

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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/01 23:16:54 (permalink)
    I did bump the voltage to 1.65V with the initial board and it was no go. I did not try the voltage bump with the second board, and I did not change the timings although I did run it at 1333MHz stock speed with the initial board and it was also no go with many BSODs. The memory kit is XMP capable.


     
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/01 23:41:00 (permalink)
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    I did bump the voltage to 1.65V with the initial board and it was no go. I did not try the voltage bump with the second board, and I did not change the timings although I did run it at 1333MHz stock speed with the initial board and it was also no go with many BSODs. The memory kit is XMP capable.


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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/02 01:10:48 (permalink)
    LFaWolf
    I did bump the voltage to 1.65V with the initial board and it was no go. I did not try the voltage bump with the second board, and I did not change the timings although I did run it at 1333MHz stock speed with the initial board and it was also no go with many BSODs. The memory kit is XMP capable.


    You know Intel recommends you not running the mem controller on your cpu higher than 1.57 max, actually they say 1.5 +5% max. Being that your using 8 sticks you would most likely need to add some voltage to the mem controller to run that much hardware. Probably just booting with one, maybe two sticks, and then getting into the bios to manually set voltage and the timings would probably get you going. Then you can add two sticks at a time and adjust accordingly if something happens.I refuse to use the XMP setups because they pretty much never work or if they do it ends up putting the wrong timings in somewhere,the wrong clock rate or both. G-skill sticks are pretty good and pretty much work in everything ive ever put them into, so the only other thing it could be is that you have a overly sensitive, maybe even damaged???, mem controller on your 3960x or maybe a slightly bent cpu LGA pin/overly cranked down cpu hs/f/h2o block. The sticks weren't refurbs right?!?

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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/02 13:00:33 (permalink)
    G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH 
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/02 17:13:22 (permalink)
    You may want to get a little protection for your CPU see Performance Tuning Protection Plan

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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/03 08:34:51 (permalink)
    I agree with XMP profiles not working. My Dark can auto set the ram faster and more stable then using the XMP setting. I start a new system build with memory  in Auto just to get a base reference, then tweak it manually until its as tight as it will go. Most ram profiles call for 1.65 V at 1600 or higher; Not sure why Intel would recommend anything less?

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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/03 15:34:19 (permalink)
    I'm running G. Skill Ripjaws Z (PC3-12800) #F3-14900CL9-4GBZL 1866MHz 4x4GB kit here at 2000MHz without issue.  Timings all set manually.
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/03 20:23:15 (permalink)
    Way off topic, but how does 85.90 mbs download speed only get a B+ rating?? 
     
    Mine is only 45 mbs behind my router.
     
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    Re: G.Skill F3-12800CL10Q-32GBZL memory not compatible with X79 Dark 2015/04/05 07:56:25 (permalink)
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    Way off topic, but how does 85.90 mbs download speed only get a B+ rating?? 
     
    Mine is only 45 mbs behind my router.
     
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    I guess Time Warner is slipping behind.  Not to long ago, that would have been an A+ and faster than 9x% in US...


     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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