jrarentz
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I have 2x GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 cards in SLI. I see their temps getting up to 60C which seems hot. Plus I've had some game crashes attributed to overheating. What is the hottest these cards should get? I have Precision X set to auto fan control and it's at 30% when the cards are 60C. Should I run the fans faster? What temp should I try to keep them at?
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/29 17:51:44
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Not hot at all (I'm assuming you are gaming or doing something where they are under load...if that is their temps at idle then need more airflow). Yes you should create a custom fan curve to what you feel is good for temps/noise to your liking. Could also enable v-sync to the frame rate your monitor is running so they aren't always going balls the wall if you haven't already.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/29 18:06:10
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60C? Card can go upto 105C with ~90C probably being safer. 60C is kind of like an icebox for GPU temps. In fact it seems colder than what it should be.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/29 18:14:31
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Not hot at all (I'm assuming you are gaming or doing something where they are under load...if that is their temps at idle then need more airflow). Yes you should create a custom fan curve to what you feel is good for temps/noise to your liking.
Could also enable v-sync to the frame rate your monitor is running so they aren't always going balls the wall if you haven't already.
Yes I'm running a particularly demanding game, this 60C is the hottest they get. Idle is about 33C. I have Adaptive Vsynch running through Nvidia but I'll try regular set in game and see if it helps. The crash logs I'm getting indicate a GPU temp problem. I wonder if some games are just more sensitive. This is the only game I run Adaptive VS with, I wonder if that's a clue.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/29 18:17:54
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60C? Card can go upto 105C with ~90C probably being safer. 60C is kind of like an icebox for GPU temps. In fact it seems colder than what it should be.
60dC equals 140dF. That seems really hot. I don't know what's normal for GPUs though.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/29 18:21:43
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You are about what my 980 Kingpins in sli run at while under load, 55-60. You're super fine with those temps. Something may be reading wrong, unless it's some part on the gpu that is getting too hot but others here may be able to speak on that better than I...unless you have some setting in your bios that shuts it down at 60. That's all i can think of.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/29 22:10:42
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If your GPU's are at 60C and your system is crashing, it has nothing to do with the GPU's temp. Normally those cards run at 75C under load so your fan curve is keeping it colder than it needs to be by 15C. My 970 is usually 75C with load and I know other people in SLI will get 85C which is fine. I said earlier that ~90 is when you should be concerned.
Card is rated to ~105C but the bios will shut it down at ~95 normally.
Someone mentioned you may of changed a setting. You seem kind of paranoid about you 60C cards which are like ice cubes compaired to the norm. Maybe you changed a setting so the PC restarts at 65C somehow...
60C... My 460SLI would go upto 93C and it was fine.
I'm starting to think your "trolling".
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/29 22:32:36
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Too hot is over 90C... But because 980 is not so hot card no reason to reach 88-89C.
Leave option to fan work 100% if temp pass 80-85C.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/30 01:53:46
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My standard ACX 2.0 980s run low 70s in 99% of games. Even in Firestrike and Heaven they run around that. Crysis 3 on max settings heat them up to 80-83. I'd kill for 60c under load. You must have insane airflow or a really cool ambient temp.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/30 04:28:37
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I'm starting to think your "trolling".
Sorry if I came across that way. I'm asking an honest question. The reason I ask about overheating is a particular crash log from a game seemed to indicate that, I don't know how to interpret those but that's what someone else told me who looked at it. I am asking because although I can tell what my temp is while running Im not familiar enough with computers to know hat a "normal" temp for GPUs is.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/30 04:47:03
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/30 07:05:30
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Turning up the fan speed and keeping the temps under 50C seems to have solved the problem. Maybe some applications are more sensitive to this than others. I set the "aggressive" profile in Precision X.
I also turned off Nvidia Adaptive AA and just used the in game Vsync
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/30 10:03:01
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I think you put yourself in a corner with all your settings you changed... The card usually runs at 70C so 60C is pretty cold but whatever.... Yet alone 50C.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/30 10:40:15
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I've run into this problem before with the same game (a flight sim DCS: A-10C Warthog) when I was using a single EVGA 3 GB GTX 780Ti SC and it got up to maybe 75C I think. Same GPU failure. I solved it the same way by just boosting the fan speed in Precision X. I'm not sure if the 980s run cooler because they're a different card or because of the ACX dual fans but they stay much cooler. Still 58C maybe is too much and it crashed. My case is ventilated with plenty of fans and a CPU cooler. Maybe it's just something particular with DCS because other games seem to run fine at higher temps.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/31 10:09:28
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I've run into this problem before with the same game (a flight sim DCS: A-10C Warthog) when I was using a single EVGA 3 GB GTX 780Ti SC and it got up to maybe 75C I think. Same GPU failure. I solved it the same way by just boosting the fan speed in Precision X. I'm not sure if the 980s run cooler because they're a different card or because of the ACX dual fans but they stay much cooler. Still 58C maybe is too much and it crashed. My case is ventilated with plenty of fans and a CPU cooler. Maybe it's just something particular with DCS because other games seem to run fine at higher temps.
58ºC too much?!?  LOL
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/31 10:12:17
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That's what I'm saying... 90C is too much, not 60C
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/03/31 10:38:39
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When I keep the temp below 50C there's no problem. I think it only takes about 60% of the fan speed to do that. The "Agressive" speed curve on Precision X will keep it there.
I had a particular mission in DCS that would freeze every time within a few minutes. Setting the fan curve higher solved it. This is with both the GTX 780Ti and 980s.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 06:32:45
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60s is nothing, it's actually exceptionally cool if this is under load. (Hard to believe).
Start to worry if the card hits 80C, even then It would not be an issue, not even 85C, the card would simply throttle and at 91C (I think) it would shut off.
If you have an "issue" as you claim where you believe you need to keep the card under 50C you have an entirely different problem, temperature it is not!!
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 07:14:24
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I hear what everyone is saying but 60c to me feels like it would start to disrupt my entire system with all that heat. If only I could get a HydroCopper for my 980
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 07:45:05
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Who knows why my system behaves this way but it's a pretty clear cause and effect. If the game crashes 100% of the time within a few minutes and when I turn the fan speed up it stops crashing. Plus the fact that this phenomenon repeats itself with the GTX 780 and 980. Then there's not much uncertainty left. That's the problem and solution. In both cases I had initially in both cases just left the Precision X at its default which looks like it actually doesn't run the fans at all, you need to set manual or automatic and then go into the settings an enable the automatic fan control. Once that was done in both cases everything worked fine. I'm not much of an expert at all with this stuff but empirically 60C is hot! That's the temperature of a steak done medium on the grill. You wouldn't grill your graphics card would you? 50C is very hot tap water. But setting the fan to its "Aggressive" profile in Precision X does a nice job of keeping the temp down like it's supposed to do.  My system specs. Velocity Micro Raptor Z90 | Asus P8Z77-V Intel Z77 | Intel Core i7-3770K 4.7GHz | Asetek Liquid Cooling System | 16GB DDR3-1600MHz Memory | 2x EVGA Nvidia GTX 980 SC ACX 2.0 4GB SLI | 240gb Intel 520 Series MLC SSD | 1TB 7200rpm SATA 300 w/NCQ | 850 W Corsair PSU | Windows 7 64-bit | Samsung S27B550V 1920 x 1080 Display
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jrarentz
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 07:55:26
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The cards are in a well ventilated case with two other fans and a CPU cooler. There's really no reason to let them get that hot.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:01:52
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60c is faaar from hot when you are talking about GPUs... it may seem hot for some but its very, very low for a video card... AMDs current Hawaii Pro and Hawaii XT chips (R9 290(X)) ran around 90c using the stock coolers, and Nvidias Kepler cards weren't cool either, with temps in 70-80c zone being quite good... I do not know why you are freaking out about the temperature because 60c is very low if anything
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:04:35
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Why does increasing the fan speed help? Simple... the voltage to the card is increased when running the fan at a higher speed.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:14:11
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"50C is very hot tap water."
50C is warm, not "very hot" by a long-shot. To repeat it again, 60C for a GPU is very cool and we can talk another several pages about this, doesn't change this fact. Different story if your card would be 60C at idle. Why do you ask for help but then reply like you "know it better" and reject what technical more knowledgeable persons say, in this case that 60C for this GPU are not an issue. If you have a problem it's not the temperature.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:14:22
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60c is faaar from hot when you are talking about GPUs... it may seem hot for some but its very, very low for a video card... AMDs current Hawaii Pro and Hawaii XT chips (R9 290(X)) ran around 90c using the stock coolers, and Nvidias Kepler cards weren't cool either, with temps in 70-80c zone being quite good... I do not know why you are freaking out about the temperature because 60c is very low if anything
Sure but why let them get that hot to begin with when the fans are capable of keeping them much cooler if you simply set them to come on? Even at 30% which is really quiet they keep the cards below 60C
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:18:46
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60c is faaar from hot when you are talking about GPUs... it may seem hot for some but its very, very low for a video card... AMDs current Hawaii Pro and Hawaii XT chips (R9 290(X)) ran around 90c using the stock coolers, and Nvidias Kepler cards weren't cool either, with temps in 70-80c zone being quite good... I do not know why you are freaking out about the temperature because 60c is very low if anything
Sure but why let them get that hot to begin with when the fans are capable of keeping them much cooler if you simply set them to come on? Even at 30% which is really quiet they keep the cards below 60C
I mean sure, if you want to cool them even more its up to you, but I was just saying that 60c is very low for a video card running full load and is far, far from "dangerous". There really isnt any point in additional cooling. 60c is a superb temp in the video card world, especially with SLI
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:20:04
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"50C is very hot tap water."
50C is warm, not "very hot" by a long-shot. To repeat it again, 60C for a GPU is very cool and we can talk another several pages about this, doesn't change this fact. Different story if your card would be 60C at idle. Why do you ask for help but then reply like you "know it better" and reject what technical more knowledgeable persons say, in this case that 60C for this GPU are not an issue. If you have a problem it's not the temperature.
50C = 122F. Yeah I can't relate to Celcius... Whether that's too hot for a GPU I don't know but that's how hot I have my water heater set for. That's "hot" If my problem is something else I have no idea. But the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. High temp = GPU failure (according to the crash log from the game) Lower temp = no failure. Problem solved.
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:24:24
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Can we close this thread?
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:24:26
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My water heater is hot at 50c, therefore it is too much for a GPU. The logic is impeccable.
You asked us a question about temperatures and we gave you an honest answer - it isn't hot at all. I don't get why you still don't believe it
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Re: How much is too hot for a GTX980?
2015/04/02 08:31:04
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My water heater is hot at 50c, therefore it is too much for a GPU. The logic is impeccable.
You asked us a question about temperatures and we gave you an honest answer - it isn't hot at all. I don't get why you still don't believe it
I believe you. Thanks for the help.
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