Frankly I'd rather not need it and have it...

sahafiec
I feel for all of you that need or think they need to carry a weapon every day.
what a wonderful world, right?!

AnonymousGuy
 
Having a gun is a right.   The difference between a right and a privilege is a right can't summarily be taken away from you.  It's also in the bill of rights which should be pretty self explanatory.

Baltothewolf

I would personally concealed carry if I could. Why? Because bad people will do bad things REGARDLESS IF I AM ARMED, OR NOT. It's the same reason I feel better when I have an alarm on my car, or my house locked up at night when I sleep. Precautions. If you give a bad person doubt about their actions, they may be less inclined to commit such action. However, if they still do attempt the action, I want to make sure I give them hell for it (or just straight up stop them). Killing someone (or shooting them) would be ABSOLUTELY last resort for me. I would draw my firearm, but unless then charge me, I would never fire and take someones life. I would much rather not have that conscience when I try to sleep at night (regardless if it was justified or not).

richj44
Please, tell us about these times you were almost killed and how you managed to escape death. It should be enlightening and helpful to those who choose not to carry.

DStith
You're talking about carrying concealed a tool for killing people and you trust that people out there are going to actually not pull it on eachother and wreak havoc?  Get real man.  You probably haven't seen as much as I have seen about people.  People are in general good but there are a lot of nut balls out there that should not EVER be allowed to have a weapon in their possession.  Not all people are good people and there are people that are way too loony.  The way the system is set up now, I can fully guarantee you, has kept weapons away from people that are borderline psychopathic.  Not because they can't walk into a gun store and buy one but because even that step alone as well as whatever else is in their environment does not place a killing tool right in front of them for their disposal.
 
I can't ever be 100% pro guns but I can't be 100% against it.  I also do agree with the argument about a guy saying he feels sorry for people whom think they need to carry in the way you stated in your post.  The reason being is that a person could feel like they need to carry it because he feels like he can wield it around if someone threatens him in public.  I mean yeah that is illegal to do anyway but when you go out in public, most of the time people aren't going to mess with you anyways.  If you feel like you need it so people won't mess with you, you definitely have something else going on (mental fatigue, fogginess, schitzophrenia, etc.. not all of the above just one or a combination of).  In those ways the brain works (or kinda ceases to function within "norms"), that is when people start doing really irrational stuff and you can't expect them to be of sound mind to control a fire arm of any kind like that.  I mean they can, but would I want to be around them? HELL NO! haha.  And these things are more common than you are aware of.
 
Also I have seen time and time again people that play FPS over glorify these.  Sure FPS is rather harmless and such, but please, be responsible... don't bring it into the real world. Killing in real life is not a game and if you draw a gun on someone, you have to be prepared for it to kill.  This isn't Terminator 2 where you tell the machine to hit people in the legs and they won't die.  In real life, that isn't realistic.  People bleed to death and there are major veins in the legs.  This stuff is meant for killing not just 100% pure self defense.
 
Now I can't be against owning guns either because what if you are stripped of your guns?  Well the guys in the lower class areas whom already own illegal fire arms (non registered hand guns and fully automatic sub-machine guns which will land you in a Federal prison for what was it 5 years or so? I forgot), well... do you think those guys are going to hand over their guns as easily as you would? nope.  So taking guns away from the citizens will cause some other problems.  Those people would have an easy way to take their illegal guns and start threatening or controlling places that they aren't legally able to.  I mean, it is just my opinion that I have thought about for years.  I don't know if I am right or wrong but that is just how I make it out to be.
 
 

DStith

BF3PRO

DStith

This is a grand opinion to have... So long as you don't try to use the power of the state to force it upon me... I would trust a citizen who open carried or conceal carries over an officer any day... Especially where I live and where my family is from...

If you come across people that use crystal meth amphetamine, you'll clearly see what I am talking about.  You want those kinds of wackos carrying concealed weapons?  You don't know what kind of random stuff they will do with it.  And this is a wide spread problem in the USA, not just localized to where I am at.
 

nateman_doo

Baltothewolf

I would personally concealed carry if I could. Why? Because bad people will do bad things REGARDLESS IF I AM ARMED, OR NOT. It's the same reason I feel better when I have an alarm on my car, or my house locked up at night when I sleep. Precautions. If you give a bad person doubt about their actions, they may be less inclined to commit such action. However, if they still do attempt the action, I want to make sure I give them hell for it (or just straight up stop them). Killing someone (or shooting them) would be ABSOLUTELY last resort for me. I would draw my firearm, but unless then charge me, I would never fire and take someones life. I would much rather not have that conscience when I try to sleep at night (regardless if it was justified or not).

Another irony... In NJ you would go to jail for what you just said.  If you draw your firearm you MUST be in fear of your life, and you HAVE to kill that person.  If you draw your firearm and dont shoot, you were not in fear of your life and you will go to jail for years.  Even though you could detain a person until the cops arrive, NOT kill him, he could get reformed and be productive member of society.  But not in Jersey.  He has to die.  
 
I personally agree that i would rather draw the gun to detain or even shoot to wound (simply to render them a non-combatant) then end a life.  Some people its their first crime and they just lost there way (think of a teenager who dropped out of school and is just starting down the wrong path).  Others are too far gone.  Id leave it up to the courts to decide but Id rather not send that person to judgement day, just to jail - unless they harm my family.  Then you will atone for your sin.

yeah it's probably the same here.  I know at least that if you carry a gun somewhere and even show it to someone as a threat or deterrent, your ass is going to get busted by the police (if someone complains anyway, which isn't always the case..most folk don't know the law).

DStith

BF3PRO

DStith

BF3PRO

DStith

This is a grand opinion to have... So long as you don't try to use the power of the state to force it upon me... I would trust a citizen who open carried or conceal carries over an officer any day... Especially where I live and where my family is from...

If you come across people that use crystal meth amphetamine, you'll clearly see what I am talking about.  You want those kinds of wackos carrying concealed weapons?  You don't know what kind of random stuff they will do with it.  And this is a wide spread problem in the USA, not just localized to where I am at.

nateman_doo

Baltothewolf

I would personally concealed carry if I could. Why? Because bad people will do bad things REGARDLESS IF I AM ARMED, OR NOT. It's the same reason I feel better when I have an alarm on my car, or my house locked up at night when I sleep. Precautions. If you give a bad person doubt about their actions, they may be less inclined to commit such action. However, if they still do attempt the action, I want to make sure I give them hell for it (or just straight up stop them). Killing someone (or shooting them) would be ABSOLUTELY last resort for me. I would draw my firearm, but unless then charge me, I would never fire and take someones life. I would much rather not have that conscience when I try to sleep at night (regardless if it was justified or not).

Another irony... In NJ you would go to jail for what you just said.  If you draw your firearm you MUST be in fear of your life, and you HAVE to kill that person.  If you draw your firearm and dont shoot, you were not in fear of your life and you will go to jail for years.  Even though you could detain a person until the cops arrive, NOT kill him, he could get reformed and be productive member of society.  But not in Jersey.  He has to die.  

I personally agree that i would rather draw the gun to detain or even shoot to wound (simply to render them a non-combatant) then end a life.  Some people its their first crime and they just lost there way (think of a teenager who dropped out of school and is just starting down the wrong path).  Others are too far gone.  Id leave it up to the courts to decide but Id rather not send that person to judgement day, just to jail - unless they harm my family.  Then you will atone for your sin.

yeah it's probably the same here.  I know at least that if you carry a gun somewhere and even show it to someone as a threat or deterrent, your ass is going to get busted by the police (if someone complains anyway, which isn't always the case..most folk don't know the law).

If they choose to use meth that's there problem but the last thing on their mind will probably be "hey man I need to conceal carry this weapon so I can score some meth money."

They use what ever means possible to feed their habit.  But that is just one example.  There's people that don't use drugs that are the same type of confused people, they will probably think about fire arms a bit more than someone that is completely out of it.  Scary enough thought too.

bill1024
 
So what you are saying is if you shoot an attacker and he goes down, you have to keep shooting until you are sure he is dead?
Thats crazy talk, please list the law and code number that says that.
Another way. You shoot them and just hit their leg, they turn and run, you have to shoot them in the back several times until they are dead?
I mean they can turn around again and come back at you.
So you say it's ok to shoot them in the back as they run away?
Please name some case law where a person went to jail for not killing someone after they pulled their gun..

• It is illegal to own any weapon, with the purpose to use it unlawfully against the person or property of another
• It is illegal for a person convicted of certain crimes (see below) to own a gravity knife, switchblade, dirk, dagger, stiletto, or other dangerous knife
• It is illegal for certain mentally ill people to own a gravity knife, switchblade, dirk, dagger, stiletto, or other dangerous knife
• It is illegal to own a gravity knife, switchblade, dirk, dagger, stiletto, or other dangerous knife with any explainable lawful purpose