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2015/03/02 17:36:28 (permalink)
Hello all.I am posting here to get some info about the Supernova 850 G2.I am in the process of building a new rig and want to know if this psu will suffice.I have narrowed down to..
 
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I intent to overclock the GPUs/CPU.The reason i am looking at the 850 is because i want to fit one 480 and one 360 rad on the bottom of the Corsair 900d and a bigger psu wont cut it.
 
You think the 850 will be enough? Thanks guys...
 
 
 
 
 
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/02 19:39:12 (permalink)

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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/03 03:11:37 (permalink)
    EVGA 850 G2 is enough for configuration you plan to use.
    But on your place I would invest 50$ more, because GTX970 SLI will not be last configuration on your PSU and power consumption of next models could be similar as GTX780Ti, R9-290X,... If you OC and 5930K and always is good to leave some space, ideal PSU for you is 1000 P2.
    GTX970 ACX 2.0 are not loud graphic cards and Eco Switch on 1000 P2 will be welcomed compare to 1000 G2 example, 850 G2 have Eco Mode too.
    I saw yesterday on Newegg cost 195$ after some discounts.

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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/03 14:29:49 (permalink)
    Even 750W is powerful enough for your RIG. 970 has TPD 145W. I have single 970 with i5 [link=mailto:3.4@4.5]3.4@4.5[/link], Maximus VII Hero, 128GB SSD + 3TB HDD and my system consumes max. 300W so I still have 450W headroom :) Your system will consume max. 500W so you would be pretty fine even with 750W G2.... And all further components will come with lower power consumption so you don't need to be worried about this.
     
    BTW, I was really surprised when I found out that 1000W G2 does not have eco switch ! So watch out of these, then the better choice is Corsair 1000 HXi but with that transformer buzzing sound :-/
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/03 17:19:18 (permalink)
    I want to thank you all for your replies.I used that psu calculator and exaggerated a bit on the settings and still gave me 690w with a reccommended wattage of 750w so i guess the 850 will be enough.Man you gotta love those new power efficient cards from nvidia,my previous rig had a Sapphire HD5970 and was power hungry and hot as hell.
     
    I understand what Vlada011 says that it may not be as future proof as the 1000 but is is really a mater of space.I think i will leave the psu for last,once i get those rads fit on the bottom of the 900d i will measure and see what space i have.Cheers..
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/03 23:36:38 (permalink)
    It's definitely enough and it's ready for the future. There is a big pressure to make low energy consumption components nowadays so I'm pretty sure we won't see such power hungry GPUs than Radeons. If AMD wants to compete with NVIDIA they must show something much stronger than GTX980/GTX970 and with significantly lower power consumption than actual R9 series. > 1000W supplies are worth only for people running 3-SLI or more. People should also realized how much their system consume during load. Because if they have a big overkill efficiency goes down. The highest efficiency is around 40% of load so with 750W PSU the sweetspot is around 300W. With 850W it is 340W. My PC is most of the time idle and consumes only 65W so the efficiency is pretty low around 85%. Ideally is 92% at 300W. But I agree this is not a big difference :) The most important thing for me is that the PSU fan is OFF when iddle :)
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 01:03:12 (permalink)
    And for 3 years when he bought two cards with power consumption 240-250W he will say
    Why I had restart in games? Why my fan is so loud? Now I will pay 50$ x4 to fix something what I could done before 3-4 years.
    His CPU overclocked pull as 2x 4790K and little more.
    Best way is to buy 1600 T2 once and when someone ask you how strong is your PSU, you only say I don't know, I don't think about that,
    I only know he is enough for everything.
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 02:03:01 (permalink)
    No there won't be such GPUs. Nobody will buy a GPU with high power consumption nowadays. Look at AMD R9 series, everybody complain about a power consumption which can supply an African village for a month :) Trend is to make components with lower consumption than previous series. Years ago you needed a house to accommodate a computer with astronomic power consumption. Now technology process tends to be smaller and smaller and the lower the process is the better power consumption and efficiency you have. This is a fact. Also you should realize that 1600W PSU is much more expensive than 850W. And efficiency in 20 - 100W is as low as 76W. If he does not plan to go more than 2SLI, he is pretty good with 850W for now and for the future ;) Everything more than 1000W is overkill... 
     
    Btw, 4790K overclocked pulls less than 20W more than on stock. Max. power consumption of the system without GPU is 150W, let's say he has 2x 250W cards (what is insane imo nowadays) cards so he has still 200W overhead... Those wattage recommendations from manufacturers are ridiculous. I would not be afraid of PSU noise, because those GPUs together will be much louder than PSU fan if active.
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 02:10:47 (permalink)
    NVIDIA will launch GM200 with 12GB 8+8pin on reference design and 275W power consumption.
    When AMD launch their card with 300W power consumption and NVIDIA need to increase power at least on 250W to offer top performance.
    It's not possible to launch card with 200W with better performance than AMD for 300W. And AMD talk about 300W and probably AIO system on at least one model of new series. NVIDIA design Maxwell as efficient because no competition at this moment they will need to increase power consumption for Titan successor and other mini Titans. I agree 850W is enough but if someone choose 1KW instead of 850W that's not mistake or wrong thinking because give more options. 
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 02:54:48 (permalink)
    These are all rumors for now. Titans are pretty power hungry but it is not a mainstream card and it's still 50W less than 290X. Btw, it's possible, look at GTX980 and R9 290x - GTX980 has 165W TPD and R9 290x - 290W. This is an extremely ridiculous difference because GTX90 is much powerful than AMD's flagship card... So it's not about power you know. AMD needs to optimize this parameter, otherwise they will never win over nVidia. If nVidia wants they will release a GPU with 300W for price of R9 290X and blow AMD out of the water...
     
    And yes, it's not a mistake to take even 2KW PSU, it's always about money, isn't it ? :) For example, here 750W costs 119Eur and 850W costs 144 Eur. So 100W difference is not worth for me. I took 750W because I'm sure I won't need stronger PSU in the future. But never say never, right ? :)
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 06:55:45 (permalink)
    Really  R9-290X have TDP almost 300W, I didn't know that.
    I thought it's max 250-260W. They lose mind completely.
    OK, from one side I understand, that was only chance to present something close to Titan Black.
    They really robbed customers for power bill. 
    Example one normal customer who want to enjoy in gaming and want AMD for any cost need at least FX8350 or FX9590 with two R9-290 or R9-290X.
    Usually they go on R9-290 and than flash BIOS with R9-290X. Compare with 4790K and 2x GTX970 or GTX980 on 3 years period that's disaster, need much better cooling and that's extra cost, stronger PSU extra cost, more heat for similar or little less performance, if we talk about 980 than much less. I really understand why NVIDIA hold more than 3/4 desktop market. If someone use credit and pay more for NVIDIA/Intel he we save some money for 3 years on power bill. Some people play 5-6h games, computer work 24/7...

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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 07:46:59 (permalink)
    Yep, it's crazy. But you are a bit wrong here, it's not close to Titan at all. 290X performs similar to GTX970 (in most cases 970 is even better) and it consumes ridiculously 2x more power and it's more expensive :) 145W vs. 290W. 980 is far better than 290X. For crossfire it's disaster to have 2x 290X cards. It is like to have 4x GTX970 :) And guess which one would perform better.   
     
    Also can't get why anybody would buy AMD CPU instead of Intel. Only if they would save but AMD has nothing to compare to Intel. I had AMD long time ago, then switched to Intel and never came back. And as you said AMD CPU with AMD GPU... well your electricity supplier will thank you :)
     
    I'm bit angry on nVidia at the moment because they've lied about 970 specs but I will stick with that card because AMD does not have anything better to compete and it's still a great card despite of it's memory configuration... Let's wait for R9 3xx series but I'm skeptic here. Even they introduce something great, I'm sure nVidia has another ace in their sleeve :) As usual they will blow AMD out of the water :)
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 13:45:25 (permalink)
    Well since this topic turned into a gpu thing,today i received the first of the two GTX970 hooked it up to my current rig and man i am impressed by the temperatures.Oc to 1525 boost clock,raped in Furmark and got max temp 71c.In 2 weeks i am getting another and as it seems i wont even have to put them in the loop since they run pretty cool and i dont intent to run them that high anyway.
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 15:56:36 (permalink)
    Nice, what version do you have ? I have SC but have pretty high temp, on stock 77c. But I don't care so much about temps :) It's a beast anyway for that money. Could be a bit stronger because I play on 75Hz and sometimes it is problem to maintain 75fps :)
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/04 16:56:25 (permalink)
    Unfortunately i didnt go with EVGA.There wasnt any stock in my area so i ordered it from a shop like 10 days ago.Went today to see whats going on with the order and they didnt had a date when they will have the card while an MSI and Gigabyte 970 was standing right in front of me on the bench so i caved and got the MSI Gaming version.Dont know the differences first time i get an MSI product.Always used EVGA on nvidia and Sapphire on AMD.
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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/05 14:12:20 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately i didnt go with EVGA.There wasnt any stock in my area so i ordered it from a shop like 10 days ago.Went today to see whats going on with the order and they didnt had a date when they will have the card while an MSI and Gigabyte 970 was standing right in front of me on the bench so i caved and got the MSI Gaming version.Dont know the differences first time i get an MSI product.Always used EVGA on nvidia and Sapphire on AMD.


    Hmm...  That was exactly on what I was planning on this time was a full-out MSI build in both the Gaming 7 mobo, and a GTX970 from them as well (for uniformity and coordination, and maximum compatibility).  Now whether I'd consider the 750W over the 850W (as I probably won't plan to SLI, at least not right away), that's another thing...  I saw Newegg at least once offer the 850W for a little cheaper than the 750W, and I should have pulled the trigger right there and then.  Now I'm feeling rather dumb about it.  Oh well, I'm sure Newegg will be having March Madness sales.

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    Re: Info about Supernova 850 G2.. 2015/03/05 15:33:44 (permalink)
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    Unfortunately i didnt go with EVGA.There wasnt any stock in my area so i ordered it from a shop like 10 days ago.Went today to see whats going on with the order and they didnt had a date when they will have the card while an MSI and Gigabyte 970 was standing right in front of me on the bench so i caved and got the MSI Gaming version.Dont know the differences first time i get an MSI product.Always used EVGA on nvidia and Sapphire on AMD.


    MSI is good choice ;)
     
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    Hmm...  That was exactly on what I was planning on this time was a full-out MSI build in both the Gaming 7 mobo, and a GTX970 from them as well (for uniformity and coordination, and maximum compatibility).  Now whether I'd consider the 750W over the 850W (as I probably won't plan to SLI, at least not right away), that's another thing...  I saw Newegg at least once offer the 850W for a little cheaper than the 750W, and I should have pulled the trigger right there and then.  Now I'm feeling rather dumb about it.  Oh well, I'm sure Newegg will be having March Madness sales.




    If you don't plan SLI then buy 750W. I have 750W for single GPU setup and works great. I did not have fan on yet :) 30E difference was not worth for 100W more. Even if you would decide to get another card in the future you'll still be OK. My overclocked system with i5-4670K @ 4.5GHz and GTX970 takes max. 300W. So actually I have still 450W headroom... If I'd get another 970 my system would hardly consume 500W so 750W is far enough. But if you plan AMD in the feature, then yes, you need a reactor for that :D 
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