I went rummaging through an old filing cabinet which hasn't been opened in at least a decade and BAM.. I just came across  Knead-able rubber eraser!  A whole unopened box of it!  I just had to laugh out loud when I found it and it made me think of you guys :) 
 
So here is the NSN for it.  Box of 12. 
7510-00-297-1608
 
You Govt types know what an NSN is...

yup.  So those who have accounts can order the stuff to condensate proof their PC's.  (Though I still prefer liquid rubber)

hallowen

nateman_doo
yup.  So those who have accounts can order the stuff to condensate proof their PC's.  (Though I still prefer liquid rubber)

Called me old fashioned, But I still like to (and do) use Petroleum Jelly for Sub-Zero Cooling in spite of being a little messy to clean off.

Nothing that a cycle through the dishwasher won't cure

Electrical Cable Clean and Contact Cleaner Sprays work good also.
 
I've never had a problem removing Petroleum Jelly when used by itself, But let it get in contact with Kneadable Eraser and you have got a Mess! LOL 

i like it.

 Though I have never used "TEC's" I have always thought that is a way to get great cooling without all the hassle of the extreme. Halo has talked a lot about TEC but to my knowledge never followed through, or least did not post his results.
 When ever I looked into TEC it always seemed that the benefit was over shadowed by the heat they give off, thus getting rid of that heat kind of nullified their cooling effect.  But what you have shown here is at least with chilled water there is a very good benefit with this. I am going to have to give this a try. May be a while. But it will happen.  Thanks for testing and showing this is an alternative.

EVGATech_DaveB
Yeah TEC's give off a TON of heat.  In some of the higher end TEC coolers I have seen, the hot side is run on a full size waterloop to keep it cool.
 
There was someone in the forums a couple years ago who had a bunch of crazy TEC builds, I believe he said he was military and had learned some of it there.  But I remember him being really knowledgeable, had some TEC cooled HAF932 that was modded like crazy for a 24/7 build.
 
Another source for how-to's aside form those who are normally in this thread is Lehpron, that guy knows his stuff.
 
 
@Hallowen
How many SS's do you have?  Or was this not meant for your normal 2-4way SLI setups?  I know you have a chiller for the cards already, if you are getting to the point of sub ambient cooling on the so you have to insulate, then why not crank the temp down on the chiller?  I don't know which you have but MANY can go sub zero, have you tried pushing it with the chiller?
 
You do have me really thinking about the SS on multiple cards though, really unique idea.....trying to think of a way to do it, it would definitely take some custom hardware.,  But if there is one thing I have learned over the years of computers, cars, and other hobbies, almost nothing is impossible. 

 
First of All, I will agree 110% that lehpron DEFINITELY Knows All about TEC's as I was informed Years ago when I started my "Get it Colder" Thread using a 790i and a 400W TEC for CPU Cooling.
 
And Yes, I do have four used ASETEK Phase Change Units that could be used in a 4-Way SLI Cooling arrangement, But that's just me thinking out loud again.
 
This time I was just messing around with the Chilled Water/TEC combination as a method of Graphics Card Cooling, But found it was very insufficient in trying to Cool WAY too much Heat (The 400W TEC + 250W of the GTX 480) to even get NEAR the lower Temps that I could obtain with just Chilled Water Cooling, So My thanks goes out once again for lehpron's help using his mathematical theories/Facts and suggestions he had previously explained and after I was able to consider and work with them once again, The probability of using this TEC Graphic Card Cooling idea has been sidelined!
 
I think you could use multiple Phase Change units on multiple Graphics Cards using PCI-E ribbon cable Extenders such as were used in Mining Setups, But even after thinking about running another four Phase Change units that would require yet another higher Amperage capability rework of my present electrical home power panel, I concluded that trying this method would currently not be "in my best interests", LOL!
 
I'll more than likely keep using my Chiller to get to colder temps than I have been, Which by the way I will be trying Just that on some Slightly Older Graphics Cards I managed to buy at a very good price recently.
 
You know even though I've been using mainly EVGA Components for Years, I Do like to try different Components occasionally, Such as when I recently went from an EVGA X99 Classified to an ASUS Rampage V Extreme using my four EVGA GTX 980 Classifieds which I sold earlier this year, And Now I have decided (After Having some Memory Flashbacks of my EVGA GTX 295's in Quad-SLI) I am going to attempt to use my "GPU Only" Water Blocks and install them on My Newly Acquired Pair of RADEON R9 295X2 Graphics Cards after removing the BARELY adequate Factory Stock Closed Loop Cooling System (The ASETEK Pumps/Water Blocks and 120MM Fans/Radiators) and for Giggles and Grins, See What Happens when using these in a Quad-SLI Setup with Chilled Water Cooling to try and prevent the High Temperature GPU Throttling problems which IMO was the Reason that was hindering these Cards from being Overclocked very high due to the "estimated" 425W Power Draw and resulting temperatures at Stock Clocks they each put out in their Factory Cooling Configuration and of Course I'll also have to use another one of my Hercules 1600W/110A Single Rail PSU's dedicated to just powering the Two RADEON Graphics Cards on Top of the Main Hercules 1600W PSU used for the RVE MB/5960X CPU/Hard Drives/Corsair DDR4 and Other System Components.
 
(Those previous above statements should answer any questions about People wondering why I build "Open Air" Benching Rigs and don't Install my Systems in an enclosed Case! )
 
Why am I doing this You may ask?.........Because I Always Love a Challenge as You Well Know.
 
 
 
  

hallowen
 
First of All, I will agree 110% that lehpron DEFINITELY Knows All about TEC's as I was informed Years ago when I started my "Get it Colder" Thread using a 790i and a 400W TEC for CPU Cooling.
 
And Yes, I do have four used ASETEK Phase Change Units that could be used in a 4-Way SLI Cooling arrangement, But that's just me thinking out loud again.
 
This time I was just messing around with the Chilled Water/TEC combination as a method of Graphics Card Cooling, But found it was very insufficient in trying to Cool WAY too much Heat (The 400W TEC + 250W of the GTX 480) to even get NEAR the lower Temps that I could obtain with just Chilled Water Cooling, So My thanks goes out once again for lehpron's help using his mathematical theories/Facts and suggestions he had previously explained and after I was able to consider and work with them once again, The probability of using this TEC Graphic Card Cooling idea has been sidelined!
 
I think you could use multiple Phase Change units on multiple Graphics Cards using PCI-E ribbon cable Extenders such as were used in Mining Setups, But even after thinking about running another four Phase Change units that would require yet another higher Amperage capability rework of my present electrical home power panel, I concluded that trying this method would currently not be "in my best interests", LOL!
 
I'll more than likely keep using my Chiller to get to colder temps than I have been, Which by the way I will be trying Just that on some Slightly Older Graphics Cards I managed to buy at a very good price recently.
 
You know even though I've been using mainly EVGA Components for Years, I Do like to try different Components occasionally, Such as when I recently went from an EVGA X99 Classified to an ASUS Rampage V Extreme using my four EVGA GTX 980 Classifieds which I sold earlier this year, And Now I have decided (After Having some Memory Flashbacks of my EVGA GTX 295's in Quad-SLI) I am going to attempt to use my "GPU Only" Water Blocks and install them on My Newly Acquired Pair of RADEON R9 295X2 Graphics Cards after removing the BARELY adequate Factory Stock Closed Loop Cooling System (The ASETEK Pumps/Water Blocks and 120MM Fans/Radiators) and for Giggles and Grins, See What Happens when using these in a Quad-SLI Setup with Chilled Water Cooling to try and prevent the High Temperature GPU Throttling problems which IMO was the Reason that was hindering these Cards from being Overclocked very high due to the "estimated" 425W Power Draw and resulting temperatures at Stock Clocks they each put out in their Factory Cooling Configuration and of Course I'll also have to use another one of my Hercules 1600W/110A Single Rail PSU's dedicated to just powering the Two RADEON Graphics Cards on Top of the Main Hercules 1600W PSU used for the RVE MB/5960X CPU/Hard Drives/Corsair DDR4 and Other System Components.
 
(Those previous above statements should answer any questions about People wondering why I build "Open Air" Benching Rigs and don't Install my Systems in an enclosed Case! )
 
Why am I doing this You may ask?.........Because I Always Love a Challenge as You Well Know.
 
 
 
  

You have 4 SS Phase units.... damn you have all the BEST toys! (not just the computer kind either)
 
TECs are such an interesting concept, it is just really unfortunate how much power they take to make that cold side work.  I just got a mental picture of using 4 TECs for your GPU side that wer4e big enough to pass your chiller and having the TEC plates on water being cooled by your chiller.... wont happen but it is an amusing design.
 
And yes, Lehpron is a GENIUS, the amount in that guys head is staggering.
 
Ahhhh I remember the days of this thread going nuts with 295 quad SLI rigs, with the chillers and LN2, also the pic someone posted of the GTX 295x2 AMD **** Edition  :)  Those AMD miner cards have some power to them, I cant imagine trying to cool those with a single 120, that is simply not enough, im curious to see how this line of benching turns out for you.

Yeah it is a really shame about product prices..... wish it wasn't the case  :( 
 
As long as you keep posting your project to occupy your time im happy there!  As for a dual proc 980, I doubt it, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

I've got to say that lately with the posts I have read and the Way my thoughts have been going as far as Who (Nvidia and AMD) is going to release What (Titan X/980ti/390X etc...) and When (Q2, Q3 or Q4) the manufacturers are going to release these New Graphics Cards throughout this 2015 year, It's going to prove very time consuming just to weigh the options/specifications of each Card in order to decide on a product to actually use without having to try All of Them individually.
 
This is one of the reasons why I've been attempting to have some fun with the somewhat reduced prices of previous "Earlier Tech" Graphics Cards for my Testing/Benchmarking purposes that at least don't require high premium $$$$ to purchase upon their initial release compared to older Card versions from last year, But God only knows how long I'll be able to hold back and not spend another small fortune again.
 
Seems I've always been addicted to all the latest Modern Technology that appears for years now, and I'm still in Denial about it.
 
  
 
 

awalleyeguy
 So now I'm a bit confused. Was using a tec with chilled water worth it or not?

 
Sorry, Didn't mean to give you the wrong impression about my initial testing results. 
 
Actually even though I found it initially did cool the GPU down at first testing much better than just using Chilled Water Cooled Blocks, going to around 1C to 3C degrees at Idle sitting in the Windows Desktop, But Unfortunately as I found out after some maintained Bench Load Testing, It  wasn't going to do a better job than I had hoped for.
 
When I starting this experimenting, I had in mind I could also possibly cool the higher TDP GPU's in the same way I use to cool my old lower TDP CPU's, But found There was just too much heat produced by both the TEC (400W) plus the GTX 480 (250W) combined even using the Chilled 10C to 15C Cooling Water temps on the TEC to keep and maintain GPU temps down while under the heavy Benchmarking Loads (Vantage) I tested compared to just using Chilled Water Blocks Only on the GPU, such as I have been using on all of my recent GTX 980 series Cards. 
 
Yes, It worked OK with an LGA 775/QX9770 (TDP 136W) on my EVGA 790i back in 2008 when I was experimenting with a Swiftech TEC/Water Block arrangement, But the almost doubled TDP of an EVGA GTX 480 GPU under high load benching conditions caused the temps to rise too fast.
 
Basically It was Just another Experiment I wanted to try while waiting for my other Graphics Cards to arrive, But looks like I'll apparently still use my stand-alone GPU Chilled Water Blocks and eventually go back to the drawing board again trying to develop something else besides TEC's for GPU Cooling. 
 

awalleyeguy
 Thanks. So really the bottom line is a TEC works, but as I have heard the heat given off just counters the effect. Making it not worth doing. To bad there isn't a way to set up that one didn't have to worry/get rid of the heat, like it could just dissipate into the air and be gone. LOL. 

Yup TEC's are a way cool idea, just terribly impractical.  There are some that get SERIOUSLY cold, but the hot side could head up a room.
 

hallowen

EVGATech_DaveB
Yeah it is a really shame about product prices..... wish it wasn't the case  :( 
 
As long as you keep posting your project to occupy your time im happy there!  As for a dual proc 980, I doubt it, I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

You never can tell, I would hazard a guess that AMD might make another new dual-CPU card just to irritate some of us "Green Fanboys". LOL!

Meh, not really on the "irritating" us.  Myself I am a Ford guy, and I like Mopars, not much of a GM fan, but in general I love cars, if you built a beefy Chevelle instead of your Stang, at the same level and quality you did, I would look just as intently.  Same goes for computers/benching;  So if you go team red and get some records, good for you and I will watch and enjoy.  Innovation on both sides is just good for the industry no matter how you cut it.

Just thought I'd have some Fun and Games with Phase Change on both the CPU and the GPU.
 
Yeah, I Know It's Jury rigged on the GPU, But it did manage to "Get it Colder", LOL
 
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Just tested out the phase change, just to see if it would freeze, and it is in good working order. Now I need to get my PC's in and start trying this cold thing.

After that, I need to go to NJ and visit Nateman and pick up a Dewar and I just found the place to get the LN2. I am excited to start testing this stuff out.

hallowen
OK Guys, I just received my New NVIDIA (Not EVGA) Geforce GTX Titan X Graphics Card that I will be using for Testing/Benchmarking instead of my Usual 4-Way SLI setups JUST to do something different for a change, Not to mention at a LOT lower amount of $$$$.
 
I'll still be using my ASUS RVE/5960X/Corsair DDR4 with my Custom SS Phase Change setup.
 
I plan on starting out with using the stock factory air cooler to test limits and eventually move on to ambient and then chilled water cooling, Followed by a try at Phase Change cooling on the GPU as I have shown testing a few posts back in this thread on my old EVGA GTX 480.
 
This will be just to ensure if something goes wrong, I'll only blow up ONE card instead of Four! LOL!

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