http://www.pcworld.com/article/2891672/amds-mantle-10-is-dead-long-live-directx.html
 
I can't really say i'm surprised this is happening but can say i'm very excited to see DX12's offerings now that AMD is supporting it as well.
 
" If this is the end of Mantle 1.0 as we know it, it will have achieved what it needed to do—and that’s get Microsoft and OpenGL’s Khronos to finally move forward and faster on graphics APIs that have been holding back PC gaming."

candle_86
oh look mantle leaves just like tessilation support ended after the 8500 lol

Tessellation is still a feature in DX11?

DX12 should be awesome

Mantle = lighting a fire under Microsoft's butt to actually make DirectX not a resource pig. Mission accomplished.
 
Read this quote from the AMD blog and understand the premise:

AMD is a company that fundamentally believes in technologies unfettered by restrictive contracts, licensing fees, vendor lock-ins or other arbitrary hurdles to solving the big challenges in graphics and computing.

When a more open and universal solution comes along, AMD sees the writing on the wall and goes with what is best for the customer. Too many are blinded by Nvidia zelloutry to understand just what that quote means in the context of AMD vs Nvidia. This is an ideological divide between AMD and Nvidia development culture. We have too many G-Sync, PhysiX and 3D Vision Kit examples on Nvidia's side of the fence not to understand there is a fundamental difference in development culture in this case. AMD gets it better than Nvidia does. If Mantle was Nvidia, it would be CUDA-centric and be worked on for the next 10 years as an Nvidia exclusive.

Dx12 must really be something AMD to outright giveup.

Baltothewolf

candle_86
oh look mantle leaves just like tessilation support ended after the 8500 lol

This comment is ignorant. If AMD Mantle hadn't come out, do you really think Microsoft would have made all the advances to DX if there wasn't competition? You people are so biased against AMD you can't see what good they have done. Just like NVIDIA with G-sync. Do you think AMD would have released Freesync if NVIDIA hadn't done G-sync? No. It takes a push on one side to get the other off their asses and do things. ANY progress is good, and you guys let your biased views get in the way of progress.

When G-sync came out everyone was like 'THIS IS BS IT COSTS TOO MUCH!!! " I never complained because I saw progress, and you don't HAVE to buy it. On top of that, I knew AMD would come out with their own version (which I didn't expect to be free) and prices would drop.

I'm am 100% with you, this was well said.

I know a lot of naysayers who condemned mantle before it even hit the ground. I couldn't explain to them that it doesn't matter if mantelet failed because it's going to drive competition in the API world because they are so entrenched in one brand. The people I know think, "mantel is never going to replace DX and its going to be garbage". They can't see pass their own ignorance and look at innovation for what it is, innovation. AMD never said it plans were to take down DX but only to get the API developers going forward, and look how DX responded!
Mantel hits the market and a year later DX starts upgrading (and only after the release of mantle) and is pretty much doing to the same thing to DX12, making it run like mantle.

Same applies to g-sync, yeah nvidia pushed it first but AMD makes their own version and give the license away for free. Remember that AMD is not making money from each monitor sold with display port 1.4a because it's an open standard free for anyone to use. How can you get mad at this!

Nvidia held the torch on graphics cards for awhile and look how crazy the prices got. AMD makes a come back with the 290x for only 500 bucks (with performance rivaling the titan a card that was 1500 bucks) and nvidia reacted with better prices on the 600 and 700 series cards.
Even if you're all for team green or red (b/c you're too stubborn to realize you can use both and nobody will judge you) you need to at least appreciate the other company because without competition we the users suffer.

seth89

Baltothewolf

candle_86
oh look mantle leaves just like tessilation support ended after the 8500 lol

This comment is ignorant. If AMD Mantle hadn't come out, do you really think Microsoft would have made all the advances to DX if there wasn't competition? You people are so biased against AMD you can't see what good they have done. Just like NVIDIA with G-sync. Do you think AMD would have released Freesync if NVIDIA hadn't done G-sync? No. It takes a push on one side to get the other off their asses and do things. ANY progress is good, and you guys let your biased views get in the way of progress.

When G-sync came out everyone was like 'THIS IS BS IT COSTS TOO MUCH!!! " I never complained because I saw progress, and you don't HAVE to buy it. On top of that, I knew AMD would come out with their own version (which I didn't expect to be free) and prices would drop.

I'm am 100% with you, this was well said.

I know a lot of naysayers who condemned mantle before it even hit the ground. I couldn't explain to them that it doesn't matter if mantelet failed because it's going to drive competition in the API world because they are so entrenched in one brand. The people I know think, "mantel is never going to replace DX and its going to be garbage". They can't see pass their own ignorance and look at innovation for what it is, innovation. AMD never said it plans were to take down DX but only to get the API developers going forward, and look how DX responded!
Mantel hits the market and a year later DX starts upgrading (and only after the release of mantle) and is pretty much doing to the same thing to DX12, making it run like mantle.

Same applies to g-sync, yeah nvidia pushed it first but AMD makes their own version and give the license away for free. Remember that AMD is not making money from each monitor sold with display port 1.4a because it's an open standard free for anyone to use. How can you get mad at this!

Nvidia held the torch on graphics cards for awhile and look how crazy the prices got. AMD makes a come back with the 290x for only 500 bucks (with performance rivaling the titan a card that was 1500 bucks) and nvidia reacted with better prices on the 600 and 700 series cards.
Even if you're all for team green or red (b/c you're too stubborn to realize you can use both and nobody will judge you) you need to at least appreciate the other company because without competition we the users suffer.

 
yea I guess you don't remember
 
x800XT PE $600
x1800XT $550
x1900XTX $650
HD5970 $650
HD6990 $700
 
I respect what AMD did, but the graphics division is old ATI who did alot of things that never worked out their way.
 
1x3 design with the R100, except no games used a setup that needed triple textures applied per pixel so it was wasted fillrate
 
ATI Trueform, it was early tesilation but never really took off, poor driver support, poor preformance and ATI abandoned it one generation later.
 
Mantel to many of us looked like just another bad idea from AMD aka ATI. Nvidia had their fair share as well, the CinaFX pipeline setup for Geforce FX comes to mind.

Why do people still ignore the point for Mantle and DX12, do you guys know what "reduce CPU overhead" actually means?  It is like some of you only think as far as reviewers tell you believe, that maybe it just means shifting load to the GPU and improve performance; but that isn't it though.  
 
AMD created Mantle to close the gap with Intel, because CPU overhead is the advantage Intel has.  Since DX12 is picking up the slack, it isn't like AMD is losing by not supporting Mantle.  Reduction of CPU overhead forces games to be GPU-heavy, every single DX12+ game is going to look like this from now onwards:
 

 
There is no reason to even choose a quad-core under DX12, dual-cores are once again relevant for gaming (an area which AMD's 4-core APUs match up against)-- a concept which is a threat to all Intel unlocked processors except Pentium G3258.  It also means AMD doesn't have to try so hard with Zen to match up with Intel.
 
For those that want to suggest that Windows 10 may be streamlined for more cores to disregard the Anandtech preview which lacked it, I'll agree for non-gaming considering the target for the seamless OS; but I doubt MS would override the point for making DX12 just to add CPU overhead back in to satisfy those with multi-core systems built for DX11 games that benefited from CPU overhead.