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2015/02/10 15:51:14 (permalink)
I'm in the final stretches of trying to make my system last another 4-5yrs.

I've upgraded to an i5 4690K (May do i7 4790K later or 4770k)
Went with 2 970 FTW's for the graphics horse power
I'll have a total of 3 SSD's when my new 250GB 850 Evo arrives ($112), I have a 120GB & a 250GB 840 Evo SSD already.
Thinking on grabbing a 3TB Mechanical HD to replace my 1TB as a data storage drive.

I was browsing some  things on the 3DMark 11 website and found 16GB seems to help boost performance so I went and bought another set of G.Skill Snipers CAS 9-11-9-28 DDR3 1866 which I have a set already @ 2133Mhz which will bring my total ram to 16GB.

This a good move or should I have just stayed with 8GB? Is 16GB a necessity? Just wondering if it was a smart move to go from 8 to 16GB for future proofing.
 
I do plan on an immediate upgrade to Windows 10 when it releases and I have a MSND Windows 8 key but still using windows 7.

Would it be beneficial to stay with windows 7 or upgrade for now to windows 8? Not to sure on what performance gains anyone gets from both 16GB Ram and Win 8. I just know I hate windows 8 even with classic shell. (my Asus laptop runs Windows 8.1..)

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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/10 16:01:50 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/02/12 18:44:23
Unless you really want/need to use DX12 on any system and like the interface for Windows 8/8.1 I would stick with Windows 7 for now. Windows 10 will be a free upgrade from Windows 7 when released. As far as memory performance having more is always beneficial but not always necessary. If you have 16gb then, by all means, keep using it. Better to have than to not have and wish you did later on when it's required. Other than that I think that you have a system which should last for quite a while. I've had my system since 2008 and it's still able to play and perform very well all things considered. I could use a video card update for some graphical additions that the GTX 560Ti didn't have when the 600/700/900 cards have added since but I'm not lagging behind on anything other than power efficiency with my current video card. Please note that I don't go for high performance video or a lot on this workstation I game on. I'm very happy with mid-range video cards and have had very little trouble with the games I play (mainly SW:ToR, The Secret World, Skyrim and the like).

 

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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/10 19:38:32 (permalink)
Nah just got 8GB at this second with the other 8 on the way.




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/11 17:29:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/02/12 18:44:14
Function wise it should be good.  Barring some type of catastrophic failure of a component, I think this system will hold you for a long time.  As long as when new games come out, you are ok with playing on high, then later medium quality to maintain your framerate you are fine.
The only real worry I would have if video memory usage.  In reality, we don't know what it will be in a year or 2 or 5, but, but if current trends hold, while you might have plenty of GPU power you will bottom out your ram HARD, I had it happen with my 8800 Ultra, and then later my 1.5gb 580's, games were great until I bottomed out the RAM then it was really slow.  But right now, that is my ONLY worry on your system for the long run.
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/11 17:40:09 (permalink)
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Function wise it should be good.  Barring some type of catastrophic failure of a component, I think this system will hold you for a long time.  As long as when new games come out, you are ok with playing on high, then later medium quality to maintain your framerate you are fine.
The only real worry I would have if video memory usage.  In reality, we don't know what it will be in a year or 2 or 5, but, but if current trends hold, while you might have plenty of GPU power you will bottom out your ram HARD, I had it happen with my 8800 Ultra, and then later my 1.5gb 580's, games were great until I bottomed out the RAM then it was really slow.  But right now, that is my ONLY worry on your system for the long run.


I would expect that if the case were to be made for any future updating of that particular system then the only component necessarily needing to be replace would be the video card itself. Especially when more VRAM would be available on the cards for the higher resolutions. Typically most higher end gamers would do this just to maintain their forward curve for future trends in game resolution and framerates.

 

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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/12 08:50:53 (permalink)
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Function wise it should be good.  Barring some type of catastrophic failure of a component, I think this system will hold you for a long time.  As long as when new games come out, you are ok with playing on high, then later medium quality to maintain your framerate you are fine.
The only real worry I would have if video memory usage.  In reality, we don't know what it will be in a year or 2 or 5, but, but if current trends hold, while you might have plenty of GPU power you will bottom out your ram HARD, I had it happen with my 8800 Ultra, and then later my 1.5gb 580's, games were great until I bottomed out the RAM then it was really slow.  But right now, that is my ONLY worry on your system for the long run.


I would expect that if the case were to be made for any future updating of that particular system then the only component necessarily needing to be replace would be the video card itself. Especially when more VRAM would be available on the cards for the higher resolutions. Typically most higher end gamers would do this just to maintain their forward curve for future trends in game resolution and framerates.




Agreed, I was just making sure that point was taken into consideration in regards to a 4-5 year lifespan on a system.
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/12 17:05:56 (permalink)
Yea if i can go 3yrs without a gpu upgrade awesome.. i dont foresee myself going to 4k till its reasonably priced.




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/12 17:08:17 (permalink)
Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/12 18:23:39 (permalink)
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Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0

Either that or you really wanted to point out 3 yrs was good and you were waiting on 4k LOL


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/12 18:43:55 (permalink)
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Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0

Either that or you really wanted to point out 3 yrs was good and you were waiting on 4k LOL




yea.. No.. Lol




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/13 11:02:41 (permalink)
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Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0



Hmm, I thought you REALLY wanted to make sure we knew your thoughts on 4k 
 
No worries, it happens.
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/13 11:03:03 (permalink)
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Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0

Either that or you really wanted to point out 3 yrs was good and you were waiting on 4k LOL


HAH, Howdy beat me to it  :)
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/13 11:05:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/03/01 19:10:51
Personally, after seeing GSync live, using 120hz monitors and using some QHD's I think i will jump to the Swift, then see where tech goes form there, I would love to see a Swift feature set on a 4k, but I don't expect that to be caught up for years still, so like yourself, im not jumping into 4k.
 
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/13 20:54:11 (permalink)
So here's it look now....

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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/14 06:56:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/03/01 19:10:33
Squall_Rinoa86
 
 So here's it look now....




3 suggestions:
 
1) turn your ties so the latch part is hidden behind the cables (I would have used red ties LOL) I understand the blue to match LEDs on fans (if that was what you were going for)
2) hide those 2+ pins behind the cables too (cleaner look.....and I might be a little OCD)
3) Find yourself a snazzy SLI bridge LOL (more OCD I guess....while I sit here with my EVGA installed upside down)
 
Much cleaner look though, OH how do you feel about 3yrs and 4k? I think I missed it somewhere
 
(Remove your Speed test it makes me sick   ....... or jealous I guess)
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/14 11:56:16 (permalink)
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 So here's it look now....




3 suggestions:
 
1) turn your ties so the latch part is hidden behind the cables (I would have used red ties LOL) I understand the blue to match LEDs on fans (if that was what you were going for)
2) hide those 2+ pins behind the cables too (cleaner look.....and I might be a little OCD)
3) Find yourself a snazzy SLI bridge LOL (more OCD I guess....while I sit here with my EVGA installed upside down)
 
Much cleaner look though, OH how do you feel about 3yrs and 4k? I think I missed it somewhere
 
(Remove your Speed test it makes me sick   ....... or jealous I guess)



1) I will do, just put that in and took pic, didnt have much time to actually catch up on the way they were latched. But yes. used the blue ones to try and keep the red/blue color. I will later get the white individual sleeved cables tho at some point.

2) I'll have to see how to best do that.. but maybe put them along side the others or so. Will do

3) Was looking at getting a hard bridge but for $30 for looks cant exactly justify the means however I did enter into the give-away ASUS is doing with hard SLI bridge covers so here's to hope! Went and actually updated my Speedtest score.. lol =3 Actually logged in with my account this time for it to boot.
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/14 12:10:48 (permalink)
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Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0

No worries I cleaned up the duplicate entries

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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/14 12:27:36 (permalink)
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Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0

No worries I cleaned up the duplicate entries


Awww man, put them back LOL now the thread looks goofy with out of context comments.


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/14 14:07:59 (permalink)
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Holy crap... i blame my s4 Mini....sorry o.0

No worries I cleaned up the duplicate entries




LOL Thanks Johnson, Appreciate the fix.

Question! Should I keep the "SupremeFX" Sound card or.... should I install my Recon 3D Sound Blaster card? Any opinions? Would it screw up my SLI 2-way @ 8X if I install a sound card that's PCI-E 1x?




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/16 17:03:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/03/01 19:10:11
The board is a Z97 chipset, and in most cases the single lane that is pulled for 1x or even 4 x slots is normally from the PCH on these boards rather than the CPU so this should not effect your SLI.  If you have ANY 1x card handy, even something you don't plan to use, you can drop it into the slot and see what happens, ASUS may have pulled the lanes form the CPU, but for this type application it is rare to see that unless that board has a PLX chip.  If they are using a PLX chip (a sure-fire sign they are is does a Z97 advertise 3x or 4x SLI) make sure the audio is on a slot not directly connected to the PLX chip, and you would have to ask ASUS about that, because PLX can cause some really oddball issues with audio cards.
 
As far as which is superior, I am really not sure.  I have not seen your onboard used in person before, I know the Recon is a solid card.  I will PM a mod who I know is a MAJOR audio guru, he may have some insight for you.
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/16 18:34:47 (permalink)
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The board is a Z97 chipset, and in most cases the single lane that is pulled for 1x or even 4 x slots is normally from the PCH on these boards rather than the CPU so this should not effect your SLI.  If you have ANY 1x card handy, even something you don't plan to use, you can drop it into the slot and see what happens, ASUS may have pulled the lanes form the CPU, but for this type application it is rare to see that unless that board has a PLX chip.  If they are using a PLX chip (a sure-fire sign they are is does a Z97 advertise 3x or 4x SLI) make sure the audio is on a slot not directly connected to the PLX chip, and you would have to ask ASUS about that, because PLX can cause some really oddball issues with audio cards.
 
As far as which is superior, I am really not sure.  I have not seen your onboard used in person before, I know the Recon is a solid card.  I will PM a mod who I know is a MAJOR audio guru, he may have some insight for you.




Quite appreciate that, thanks! I'll have to maul over what asus did before I plug it in then. Appreciate the insight Dave.

Just got off the phone with ASUS's lovely tech support... they actually answered the phone without a 20min wait!

They said I should be fine installing my sound card so I'll wait to see what your friend says before I decide to throw it in.
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/19 20:12:54 (permalink)
Nothing Dave? =X




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/23 16:45:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/03/01 19:10:06
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Nothing Dave? =X


Sorry :(  I PM'd him, but he has been rather busy and travelling a lot for work recently.  Normally he isn't THIS tied up.
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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/23 21:31:23 (permalink)
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Nothing Dave? =X


Sorry :(  I PM'd him, but he has been rather busy and travelling a lot for work recently.  Normally he isn't THIS tied up.



Ahh Np.. Thought maybe it was forgotten about lol ^^ Appreciate it.




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/25 07:47:41 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/03/01 19:10:01
Sorry about the delay in responding.  I have been extremely busy and unavailable.  I am not familiar with either of your cards but typically for gaming, newer is better because they are continuing to try and create the most realistic atmosphere possible, and I would think that for this purpose the Recon 3D would be better.  However, before I say that emphatically, I need to know what you will be using the sound card for primarily.  I assume for gaming, but if for music I may have other suggestions.



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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/27 19:15:47 (permalink)
It would be for gaming primarily.

Creative Recon 3D i have in card forum. SupremeFX is on my maximus vii hero.

My old evga p55 sli didnt support 5.1 so i bought the Recon 3D.




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/02/28 16:17:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Squall_Rinoa86 2015/03/01 19:09:54
I would use the Recon 3D.



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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/03/01 11:51:08 (permalink)
I seem to remember seeing that MSI's Gaming motherboards have Creative SB chips and capacitors included in them.  This could be something to take advantage of, too, if I were you.

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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/03/01 19:09:43 (permalink)
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I would use the Recon 3D.



Very well, I've went ahead and installed the Creative Sound Blaster Recon 3D. Kudo's!




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Re: Future proofing system inquarry. 2015/03/01 19:13:56 (permalink)
Enjoy.



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