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2015/02/23 04:02:07 (permalink)
Hello, I been here many times and everyone has always been helpful. Hopefully this time I can get some useful information as well.
I recently purchased another SSD drive, the same exact one I already had. I bought it out of pure laziness. I wanted to format to windows 8.1 and try it out without having to format over windows 7 and in the case I didn't like 8 I could very easily just switch back without any reformatting.
 
I have been running windows 8.1 pro for a few days now and other than some difference it seems to be about the same as 7 to me after configuring it to work more like 7 did. Is there anything I should know about 8? Is it any better or worse for gaming or in any department? I haven't noticed any pros or cons..
 
Anyway I now have 2 alike SSds and was wondering about raid configurations. I have been pretty tech savvy over the years but I must say raid is something I have never touched or messed with and really I know nothing about it except the little I have googled. Whatever Os I choose to stay with is still undetermined for me but either way Raid is an option. Is it worth is? Would I notice any gain from running it. I know there is a few ways of going about or like raid0 or 1. I was just hoping maybe I could get a little info on the matter and maybe hear what some people have to say about it.
 
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    Re: Raid Questions + Windows 8 2015/02/23 04:43:50 (permalink)
    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2370235,00.asp
     
    •RAID 0 is used to boost a server's performance. It's also known as "disk striping." With RAID 0, data is written across multiple disks. This means the work that the computer is doing is handled by multiple disks rather than just one, increasing performance because multiple drives are reading and writing data, improving disk I/O. A minimum of two disks is required. Both software and hardware RAID support RAID 0, as do most controllers. The downside is that there is no fault tolerance. If one disk fails, then that affects the entire array and the chances for data loss or corruption increases.
    •RAID 1 is a fault-tolerance configuration known as "disk mirroring." With RAID 1, data is copied seamlessly and simultaneously, from one disk to another, creating a replica, or mirror. If one disk gets fried, the other can keep working. It's the simplest way to implement fault tolerance and it's relatively low cost.
    The downside is that RAID 1 causes a slight drag on performance. RAID 1 can be implemented through either software or hardware. A minimum of two disks is required for RAID 1 hardware implementations. With software RAID 1, instead of two physical disks, data can be mirrored between volumes on a single disk. One additional point to remember is that RAID 1 cuts total disk capacity in half: If a server with two 1TB drives is configured with RAID 1, then total storage capacity will be 1TB not 2TB.
    •RAID 5 is by far the most common RAID configuration for business servers and enterprise NAS devices. This RAID level provides better performance than mirroring as well as fault tolerance. With RAID 5, data and parity (which is additional data used for recovery) are striped across three or more disks. If a disk gets an error or starts to fail, data is recreated from this distributed data and parity block— seamlessly and automatically. Essentially, the system is still operational even when one disk kicks the bucket and until you can replace the failed drive. Another benefit of RAID 5 is that it allows many NAS and server drives to be "hot-swappable" meaning in case a drive in the array fails, that drive can be swapped with a new drive without shutting down the server or NAS and without having to interrupt users who may be accessing the server or NAS. It's a great solution for fault tolerance because as drives fail (and they eventually will), the data can be rebuilt to new disks as failing disks are replaced. The downside to RAID 5 is the performance hit to servers that perform a lot of write operations. For example, with RAID 5 on a server that has a database that many employees access in a workday, there could be noticeable lag.
    •RAID 6 is also used frequently in enterprises. It's identical to RAID 5, except it's an even more robust solution because it uses one more parity block than RAID 5. You can have two disks die and still have a system be operational.
    •RAID 10 is a combination of RAID 1 and 0 and is often denoted as RAID 1+0. It combines the mirroring of RAID 1 with the striping of RAID 0. It's the RAID level that gives the best performance, but it is also costly, requiring twice as many disks as other RAID levels, for a minimum of four. This is the RAID level ideal for highly utilized database servers or any server that's performing many write operations. RAID 10 can be implemented as hardware or software, but the general consensus is that many of the performance advantages are lost when you use software RAID 10.
    Other RAID Levels There are other RAID levels: 2, 3, 4, 7, 0+1...but they are really variants of the main RAID configurations already mentioned, and they're used for specific cases. Here are some short descriptions of each:

    •RAID 2 is similar to RAID 5, but instead of disk striping using parity, striping occurs at the bit-level. RAID 2 is seldom deployed because costs to implement are usually prohibitive (a typical setup requires 10 disks) and gives poor performance with some disk I/O operations.
    •RAID 3 is also similar to RAID 5, except this solution requires a dedicated parity drive. RAID 3 is seldom used except in the most specialized database or processing environments, which can benefit from it.
    •RAID 4 is a configuration in which disk striping happens at the byte level, rather than at the bit-level as in RAID 3.
    •RAID 7 is a proprietary level of RAID owned by the now-defunct Storage Computer Corporation.
    •RAID 0+1 is often interchanged for RAID 10 (which is RAID 1+0), but the two are not same. RAID 0+1 is a mirrored array with segments that are RAID 0 arrays. It's implemented in specific infrastructures requiring high performance but not a high level of scalability.

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    my own usage I ran raid 0 only to see performance gain of speed but I would suggest raid 1
    loss data on power outage with raid 0
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    Re: Raid Questions + Windows 8 2015/02/23 07:01:47 (permalink)
    I mainly use RAID 1 because I do not like to lose data. I also have a personal storage cloud, as no RAID configuration is foolproof. This works like a NAS, but can be accessed from anywhere.



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    Re: Raid Questions + Windows 8 2015/02/23 13:33:53 (permalink)
    Moving to Gen. Hardware.

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    Re: Raid Questions + Windows 8 2015/02/23 17:42:28 (permalink)
    Well im really not concerned about backing anything up especially since everything essential is on my storage drives and it really doesn't take too long to reformat and put everything how I like it. Im basically just looking for a noticeable performance increase and I suppose I just wont get much of one.
    I remember hearing back in 2007ish days everyone raging on about raid this and raid that. Now that im in a position to do so I guess its really not a big deal any more.
    I suppose I will just use the extra drive for either my x58 rig when I stick my old gtx580 in it, or another faster but smaller data drive. I always keep my previous build for a backup rig incase I need it while dealing with hardware/software issues like the time my H80i leaked all over my vid card lol.
    As far as Windows 7 vs. 8 goes id love to hear a little about that. Pros or cons.. I seem to value the input here higher than that of which I collect from google and such. So far I see no difference although I have not done any benchmarks yet. Visually I see nothing at all and im not sure I like the whole start menu thing so I got the classic shell app. Most things seem to be the same as 7 though.
    Thanks again all, much appreciated...
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    Re: Raid Questions + Windows 8 2015/02/26 19:00:47 (permalink)
    I use Windows 7. Windows 8 though, is more updated, as there are some nice things about that OS. It is a touchscreen version, but I have read and heard good things about it once you get used to where things are. I will move to Windows 10 before 8 or 8.1. I may try it out on one of my newer rigs, but then again I may just stay with Windows 7. Maybe the prospect of change and relearning an OS has me a bit perplexed.



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