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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/02 09:53:58 (permalink)
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we didn't beat them before,....but it was a fun challenge at the last minute. i have ebolia wus so as soon as i finish those i will be in100% here. I got involved with bio so thats where my heart lies.


But we did win the last Challenge.
Planet 3DNow! was not part of the last Challenge as Punchy said above.
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/03 07:34:27 (permalink)
This Challenge has become a farse.
I love a good Challenge, and I have no problems of getting a good beat, that is, if Meeting at equal terms.
P3D With their Heavy hitters would most likely take this one home anyways, so their bunker strategy is a huge fail in my book.
Bunkering can be ok for some reasons, some situations, but not this way.
I'm drying out POGS now, entering Year of the Sheep Challenge
If no one else make a thread about it, I'll see if I can make one later.
 


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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/03 08:39:43 (permalink)
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This Challenge has become a farse.
I love a good Challenge, and I have no problems of getting a good beat, that is, if Meeting at equal terms.
P3D With their Heavy hitters would most likely take this one home anyways, so their bunker strategy is a huge fail in my book.
Bunkering can be ok for some reasons, some situations, but not this way.
I'm drying out POGS now, entering Year of the Sheep Challenge
If no one else make a thread about it, I'll see if I can make one later.
 


As I for the POTM.
Lets hope next time they have a start Date and for issued Tasks like all the other Projects do.
 
Ban Bunkering

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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/05 17:28:35 (permalink)
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This Challenge has become a farse.
I love a good Challenge, and I have no problems of getting a good beat, that is, if Meeting at equal terms.
P3D With their Heavy hitters would most likely take this one home anyways, so their bunker strategy is a huge fail in my book.
Bunkering can be ok for some reasons, some situations, but not this way.
I'm drying out POGS now, entering Year of the Sheep Challenge
If no one else make a thread about it, I'll see if I can make one later.
 


As I for the POTM.
Lets hope next time they have a start Date and for issued Tasks like all the other Projects do.
 
Ban Bunkering


Down to fifth and falling. First is more than bunkering now more than 13 million almost 3 times second place. They came out fast and gained speed and this has a long way to go. A lot of pc power in use there and if they keep it up no one will come even close to them.  http://www.theskynet.org/challenges/52?locale=en&rank=3


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/05 18:34:32 (permalink)
For the most part I moved over the PRIMGRID, but still have tasks running during the day on theSkyNet POGS.
I just not in the Challenge Mode anymore.
Man what a Team Planet 3DNow! They are Rocking Away.
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/05 22:24:46 (permalink)
Yeah I voiced my disgust at the extreme bunkering that occurred by p3d.. Even when other teams have done it in the past it was never like this. They have around 1.5 Million RAC (According to BAM only 500k RAC) in CPU power from what I can gather but yet bunkered so hard they hit 15 million after only 5 days.. absurd! 
 
I made the suggestion on their forum post too, I'm sure a show of support would help  -> http://forums.theskynet.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2914&sid=02231cc768fb27d34f0e00047d497a70 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/05 22:30:21 (permalink)
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Yeah I voiced my disgust at the extreme bunkering that occurred by p3d.. Even when other teams have done it in the past it was never like this. They have around 1.5 Million RAC in CPU power from what I can gather but yet bunkered so hard they hit 15 million after only 5 days.. absurd! 
 
I made the suggestion on their forum post too, I'm sure a show of support would help  -> http://forums.theskynet.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2914&sid=02231cc768fb27d34f0e00047d497a70 




Fantastic post devlin and great initiative.
For many reasons I think this subject need an open debate.
I'll jump on that thread when I get the opportunity.


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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/05 22:38:27 (permalink)
Don't need to get all spartan but our 300 could take down their 3,000+  99% of their credit is just bitcoin utopia too.. And they earn those BU credits in a massive way!
 
If you check the free dc no BU stats we in fact are gaining on them  Their RAC is highly inflated, they are only producing 11-15 million points a day, and sporadically at that thanks to their questionable challenge practices, while we have been getting 17 million/day on a steady basis.
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/06 11:27:11 (permalink)
maybe you should of joined overclockers uk to help take down p3d hehe. long time lurker and have been reading these parts of the forum for a long time and I do agree that P3D are taking the fun out of it with the " cheating " if you like.
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/06 11:36:38 (permalink)
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maybe you should of joined overclockers uk to help take down p3d hehe. long time lurker and have been reading these parts of the forum for a long time and I do agree that P3D are taking the fun out of it with the " cheating " if you like.


"you should of joined overclockers uk"NOT
Planet 3DNow! is not the only Team that takes the fun out, other Teams and even single users can do it at well.
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/06 12:02:50 (permalink)
I was thinking more like tag team haha :P
at present the brit team seem to be doing a good job at holding second lol. One of the members seems to have some what the power of a quantum computer
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/06 12:28:59 (permalink)
At least over on PRIMGRID Year of the Sheep Challenge we are kicking but over Planet 3DNow!
4 Crunching@EVGA 1366176.87 -v- 36 Planet 3DNow! 52511.32 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/07 00:12:49 (permalink)
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maybe you should of joined overclockers uk to help take down p3d hehe. long time lurker and have been reading these parts of the forum for a long time and I do agree that P3D are taking the fun out of it with the " cheating " if you like.




Greetings guestman, and welcome to our forums
I think it's nice of other teams to say hello and to exchange thoughts and experience. We have all common interest and also we have the common goal to find either an answer, or at best, a cure.
 
You did a fantastic job in the last Challenge, and we thank you for pushing to the very last day. You made this challenge a really fun and interesting one. You even pulled computers out of your sofa.
I fully understand the Overclockers UK's urge for a revenge from last time. However, most crunchers around signalize that a 30 day challenge is too long.
Many think it's not ok to ask a team to dedicate resources to one single project for such a long time.
Also, we have a limited attention span as they say
 
 
About the ongoing "Ultimate Team Challenge 2015"
Some not so good stuff happened. First it was too soon, too long lasting, and then it was this behavior of P3D.
Most of us entered this challenge out of respect for Overclockers UK, and your wish for revenge.
 
However, when P3D presented 7-10 days of work the first day, they pulled the plug out of this challenge right there and then.
Many of us just pulled out, leaving just a fraction of our resources.
One can discuss bunkering day in and day out, but there are consequences. One of them we saw right there, people lose interest, and quit.
When a project invite all teams they can get to a, say 10 day challenge, isn't the meaning that the teams compete about how much work they can present over 10 days?
Then why does one team present 20days of work in a 10 challenge?
If they wanted so bad to work on those WU's 10 days ahead, they could, but why not deliver the ready work when ready?
 
Also, most WU's need validation.
When a big team deliver thousands of thousands of WU's down for validation at day one of a challenge, it will put a crazy strain on the project's hardware, possibly straining the over all performance for the whole project, slowing down the validation time for all other participants.
 
When a big and strong team as P3D show this tactics, they also show smaller and perhaps new teams how to.
This un-culture may harm the whole challenge spirit among many good teams.
The losers will be the project itself, and that's the exact opposite to what we crunchers want.
We are here to help out the projects.
 
Bunkering is not cheating, it's a lack of better knowledge.
 
 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/07 01:30:46 (permalink)
hello.
 
I am a member of no team. I browse many forums but never register unless there is a conversation I wish to reply to. It seems goal posts are moved around to much , look at folding and the big server type computers people paid large amounts for but now a single GPU can do nearly the same work as them, not only that im sure I read some were  that are been made obsolete this year some time
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/08 05:46:44 (permalink)
Hi Orange et al
 
Just signed up to say Hi and thanks for coming over to see us!
 
I am by no way a leader or ambassador for our team I just crunch whenever I get the time, which is less often these days :(
 
Your comments are much appreciated and I for one agree with everything you said, the challenges created in crunching are all of bit of fun and going to lengths to make sure you win by a massive margin even when you are a massive team takes the enjoyment out of it and is a hollow victory in my eyes.
 
The challenge last year was great fun for all even though we lost to the better team, everyone involved in the challenge did so in a friendly manner.
 
p.s someone on here stole my name (voicon), or I signed up years ago and forgotten my password and don't know what email I used :-)
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/08 09:10:46 (permalink)
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hello.
 
I am a member of no team. I browse many forums but never register unless there is a conversation I wish to reply to. It seems goal posts are moved around to much , look at folding and the big server type computers people paid large amounts for but now a single GPU can do nearly the same work as them, not only that im sure I read some were  that are been made obsolete this year some time


guestman, over at FAH, it wasn't that GPU's just suddenly started doing the same work. This is a misconception. The bigadv wasn't "folding" more work units or doing more science. They were being rewarded more points because that "science" was deemed more important. So the points were an incentive. GPU's have always been able to "crunch"/"fold" faster than CPU's in apps that are designed to use either. GPU's (like ASICs) are just faster at very specific types of work. The problem at FAH is that they just didn't award you very well for your contributions and in some cases the apps weren't well designed. That is why you see GPU's excelling in BOINC. Those apps just run faster on the GPU's. Even multi-threaded apps don't compare to most GPU's.

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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/08 17:19:47 (permalink)


Re: ELIMINATE BUNKERING FROM CHALLENGES

Unread postby eckley » Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:07 am
So far our servers have coped without issues when teams have taken advantage of bunkering, thanks the the magic of AWS. So from a purely hardware point of view we have no issue with bunkering. However, the real question here is how bunkering fits into the idea of a challenge. A challenge really stats who can do the most work in a set amount of time, and bunkering allows some users to extend that time giving themselves an unfair advantage, although is it really unfair if everyone can do??

If I can figure out how to do it, I'd like to provide the option when creating a challenge to allow or disallow challenges that way we can have the best of both worlds. Credit is awarded after a work unit is validated and unless I get the time to construct an alternative credit system I can't see an easy way around the issue.. Anyone out there of a bright idea?

Alex


http://forums.theskynet.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2914&sid=8ca493683484dea092ecffabbd2bf83a
 
Perhaps someone could explain to him exactly how PrimeGrid does it... I'm too busy right now to make a long post.
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/08 21:21:24 (permalink)
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/18 20:01:36 (permalink)
Past the halfway mark and it looks like we have a solid 6th place  http://www.theskynet.org/challenges/52?locale=en&rank=3


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/23 18:55:39 (permalink)
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I hope so, For the Win.
 



How did I get on there as # 19 . I been doing WCG after the last contest at skynet



 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/23 19:17:23 (permalink)
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I hope so, For the Win.
 



How did I get on there as # 19 . I been doing WCG after the last contest at skynet


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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/31 14:26:59 (permalink)
http://www.theskynet.org/challenges/52?locale=en  As this ends soon, great job #1, as they have more than twice as much as 2nd place. Awesome job!


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Ultimate Team Challenge 2015 2015/01/31 15:21:00 (permalink)
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http://www.theskynet.org/challenges/52?locale=en  As this ends soon, great job #1, as they have more than twice as much as 2nd place. Awesome job!


 
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