never give up :)

Scarlet-Tech
I will try to snag a few 780 or 780ti's for Folding then. That is about the same ppd as my stock 760s.

It depends on what WU you get. core 15 gets about 68k ppd but core 17 gets 200k+ and draws less power than 780s. I have not seen any ppd numbers for 960s yet but 970s are currently the best bang for your buck card. From a folding stand point you should cash in on the open box deals with all the 970s that are getting returned in perfect working order once they become available. That is what I plan to do to replace my 4 kepler cards

SHOCKING interview with Nvidia engineer about the 970 fiasco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZJrsssPA0
 
 

billythekid2014
SHOCKING interview with Nvidia engineer about the 970 fiasco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZJrsssPA0

Scarlet-Tech
I haven't picked up a core 15 on a long time. Mostly 17 and 18 on my Tis. Anyway, we are accidentally leading this thread off subject. I will take further inquiry over to the folding threads and we can talk there.

I'll take a look at the folding forums, but apparently there is a thing called a passkey now.  Super important if you want good PPD. :) With that set, I'm looking at 315k.

I personally think NVidia will ride the storm and then send a apology out and relist the boxes with 970 3.5gb  cards and then wait and see what happens.
don't think a company with that size  will do anything drastically I expect there lawyers are going through everything and they will see if there is a loophole or a way out of it with out recall or costs
but its isn't anything to do with the retailers like evga or asus  its all down to NVidia,  at least here at evga  they are offering the step up and trying to help as best as they can do  most companies are just ignoring emails
 
@billythekid  video that's is so funny that laugh made me wee a bit lol thanks for the cheer up

mmmm...interesting post...970 have only 3,5gb of vrma...ther is not 0,5gb... now im getting very

boris said:  Update regarding "GTX 970 memory bug". Wrote another test to check how that slow 0.5 gb memory works and again it's the same thing which driver do for a long time, that memory is stored in RAM instead of VRAM, that's why it slow. Basically, this is standart behavior for the most videocards on the market (vram is physical vram + a bit ram). What it means on practice compared to another videocards? GTX 970 have 3.5 Gb of VRAM. What i see in articles with explanation from NVidia is half-lie and of course casual people are incompenent and better to not listen to them. I don't think it's something horrible to loose 0.5 gb, but it's bad that NVidia hide such information (my own videocard with 2 gb or vram have access to 2.5 gb and nobody annonced it as 2.0 fast and 0.5 slow). So sad that all my posts on the forums were trolled, fools are always the most active and agressive, hopefully it's their own butthurt as they won't listen to professionals.

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Frame-Rating-Looking-GTX-970-Memory-Performance/COD-Advanced-Warfare-and-Clos
https://forums.geforce.co...-3-5gb-vram-issue/269/
 
 
 
 
but; more important...if this gonna be confirmed...woul say that the write 4gb on my evga box is not true!?  this is **** illegal. if this be true maybe is a evga issue?? or nvidia issue? 
 
evga could denounce nvidia???

why nvidiaaaa whyyy... I just wanted a video card with which to feel comfortable

btw

Disregard this post as I forgot to quote the message from the get go.
Are you sure its the 980 SC? Only asking because I was offered a step up too but only to the vanilla 980. ☹

Either way EVGA is awesome for allowing the step up even outside the normal window. It speaks volumes for their commitment to excellent customer service!!!! Kuddos to you EVGA!!!!

paullongy326
I personally think NVidia will ride the storm and then send a apology out and relist the boxes with 970 3.5gb  cards and then wait and see what happens.
don't think a company with that size  will do anything drastically I expect there lawyers are going through everything and they will see if there is a loophole or a way out of it with out recall or costs
but its isn't anything to do with the retailers like evga or asus  its all down to NVidia,  at least here at evga  they are offering the step up and trying to help as best as they can do  most companies are just ignoring emails
 
@billythekid  video that's is so funny that laugh made me wee a bit lol thanks for the cheer up

The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM. Why would they change the sticker to 3.5 GB? Why should they need to?

The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM. The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM. The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM.

Seems like the blind are misleading the blind into somehow believing that the card only has 3.5 GB of useable VRAM. 0.5 GB shares a L2 cache, but it is useable and is exactly as fast (frequency ["MHz"] and throughput ["GB/s"]) as the other 3.5 GB of VRAM. The only catch is that it isn't tied with the other 3.5 GB of VRAM with the same fast interconnect and therefore slower in certain random synchronous access situations.

ty_ger07

paullongy326
I personally think NVidia will ride the storm and then send a apology out and relist the boxes with 970 3.5gb  cards and then wait and see what happens.
don't think a company with that size  will do anything drastically I expect there lawyers are going through everything and they will see if there is a loophole or a way out of it with out recall or costs
but its isn't anything to do with the retailers like evga or asus  its all down to NVidia,  at least here at evga  they are offering the step up and trying to help as best as they can do  most companies are just ignoring emails
 
@billythekid  video that's is so funny that laugh made me wee a bit lol thanks for the cheer up

The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM. Why would they change the sticker to 3.5 GB? Why should they need to?

The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM. The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM. The card has 4 GB of useable VRAM.

Seems like the blind are misleading the blind into somehow believing that the card only has 3.5 GB of useable VRAM. 512 MB shares a memory controller, but it is useable and exactly as fast as the other 3.5 GB of VRAM. The only catch is that it isn't tied with the other 3.5 GB of VRAM with the same fast interconnect and therefore slower in certain random synchronous access situations.

hmm ok

 
They claim this was a lack of communication between their technical PR people, and the engineers
 
What I don't get  they say a lack of communication
so when the specs of the 970 was put on the box  didn't any one from
nvidia take notice  they were wrong
I think they tried to hide it .
 

matthewdg1973

banzaigtv
3.5 GB of VRAM? I don't think so. It has 4 GB of VRAM. I nearly maxed it out and I can prove it. By running Dragon Age: Inquisition on maxed settings in 3840x2160 resolution.
 

and you play that at that fps?

FPS are not important at all. But frametime is. Because of high spikes you can get lags...

matthewdg1973

Mikael_Wartooth

Nereus

Mikael_Wartooth
If EVGA let me step up to a 980 I would send my 970 back in a heartbeat and I would also buy a second 980 this week when I purchase the last of my parts for my X99 build. If this issue was known before the deadline for my step up I would have sent it back already. 

I purchased my 970 back in September also. I noticed way back then the strange issue with the spike, and it was discussed on these forums. I returned the card for a refund to Newegg but more because of the noise. I since purchased 2 x 980 SC card and have had no issues. My point is, the subject about the memory only spiking to 4GHz and not remaining there was discussed back then too. Sorry you missed it, but I think you're stuck now.
 

Not stuck at all. EVGA is letting me step up and pay the difference for a 980 SC. Best Customer service in the biz. 

Are you sure its for the SC version and not the vanilla 980? Only asking because I was offered a step up but only to the vanilla 980.

 Sorry, yes it's the vanilla version. Which I'm still ok with.