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Vlada011
If customers cross on AMD they will hurt more self than NVIDIA.
Dark clouds are above AMD more than 3 years. 
But some move would be good, driver fix, discount for registered 970 owners for GTX980, something...

So confusing... I hope English is not your first language.... 

He is from Serbia.

So... What exactly will a lawsuit solve?

JFoul
TechPowerUp:
NVIDIA plans to release a fix for the GeForce GTX 970 memory allocation issue. In an informal statement to users of the GeForce Forums, an NVIDIA employee said that the company is working on a driver update that "will tune what's allocated where in memory to further improve performance." The employee also stressed that the GTX 970 is still the best performing graphics card at its price-point, and if current owners are not satisfied with their purchase, they should return it for a refund or exchange.

You would think if there was that much room to "tune what's allocated where in memory to further improve performance" that they would have done this is the first place.  My guess is the "fix" won't be much of an improvement.  They are just cya'ing before they get crushed under the pressure that is forthcoming.

misiak
Nvidia really deserves a punishment because this was unfair against customer and even competition, because if it would be declared as 3.5GB lot of people would but AMD instead which is real 4GB, or 980. But it's not only about that 0.5GB, it's about memory controller which is screwed because of this partitioning. I would rather see 3.5GB than 3.5GB + 0.5 pretending to be 4GB. If it is 3.5GB it would be still better than 780Ti.

I disagree.. They would not have bought amd or 980 or 780ti, because price for performance, the 970 with 3.5GB is still an awesome card. This isn't anything to do with being an EVGA fan or even NVidia. This card hit the perfect price target for its performance.

As I stated last night, most people would have quickly bought the 970 when they realized the 980 was going to be really hard to get because of stock levels. There is no way to deny that.

People bought a 2gb 760 and 770 last round... Why? Because it costed less. $40 in some instance... But it was cheaper.. .5gb wouldn't be enough to stop people.

I too have run into this problem unfortunately.  I started playing Dead Rising 3 a while back when I got my first 970 FTW and that game would run fine for a bit, and at certain places, stutter like crazy to where it was not fun to play at all.  At the time I thought it was just the game being a terrible port (it is a bad port, but that's not the problem).  Well I just started playing DR3 again and now I know why I get terrible performance.  Playing that game on Ultra at 1440p uses at least 3.2GBs of VRAM and in certain areas, more.  When my game starts stuttering terribly I look at my VRAM usage, and it's at 3.5-3.6GBs.  And when the VRAM comes down, I get smooth frame rate again.
 
So I really don't like the whole excuse "well no one knew the problem before until someone showed it".  Yes I didn't know what the problem was before, but I WAS getting it.  I'm sure there are plenty of other people who ran into the problem before but just had no idea why.

Scarlet-Tech
I have played shadows of Mordor locked at 100fps. The game is locked at the cap. I played on all high settings.

Why would I play on ultra, because it is a crap game optimized to use 6gb of vram (supposedly) and there is very little visual difference between ultra and high, except for stuttering and hitching above 3gb of memory. What is the point of testing something that is known to be a bad port. Why does everyone insist on using crap port games as their go to discussion?

Maybe if the game devs had half a brain, they would have optimized the game to run on a flagship card and utilize 2.75gb of vram on ultra settings, but instead, they went silly and thought they would Impress people. I like Shadows of Mordor. It is a fun game. There is no point in wasting time on the ultra texture pack that wasn't meant to run on our cards anyway.

I agree partially. Yes, it's a bad port but what if a perfectly optimized game will be released and will require 4GB for perfect run. Not 3.5GB but 4GB. Then we all with 970 are sucked even we were buying a 4GB card. Don't know if you can get the point.

JFoul
TechPowerUp:
NVIDIA plans to release a fix for the GeForce GTX 970 memory allocation issue. In an informal statement to users of the GeForce Forums, an NVIDIA employee said that the company is working on a driver update that "will tune what's allocated where in memory to further improve performance." The employee also stressed that the GTX 970 is still the best performing graphics card at its price-point, and if current owners are not satisfied with their purchase, they should return it for a refund or exchange.

Cool would like more info but I am glad they are looking into a fix there is no reasion why people should go ape**** and accuse them of lying unless there is real proof they delibertly lies (as in some sort of credible leak they chose to falsely advertise)

GTX980 is perfect, she work normal and GPU and memory,
from beginning 980 PCB hadn't problem with coil whine more than any series before 2-3-4 years.

Fraudulent misrepresentation
A fraudulent misrepresentation occurs when someone makes a statement that -
they know is untrue, or,
they make without believing it is true, or,
they make recklessly

If you enter into a contract as a result of a fraudulent misrepresentation, then you can cancel the contract, claim damages, or both.
The Misrepresentation Act 1967 allows you to base your claim on negligence or on the fraud.
In addition, when a misrepresentation claim is based on negligence, the law states that the person who made the misrepresentation has to disprove the negligence.

In other words, they must prove that they had reasonable grounds to believe the statement, and that they believed the facts represented were true.

Negligent misrepresentation
This is a misrepresentation under the Misrepresentation Act 1967 where a statement is made carelessly or without reasonable grounds for believing its truth.
A negligent misrepresentation may fall under common law or under the Misrepresentation Act 1967. Financial loss may be recovered in some circumstances.

Go and read the Misrepresentation Act 1967, then relay that information to the retailer, they will bow down to your requests. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1967/7


nVidia have admitted the engineering team knew of the specifications, yet the PR team published incorrect specifications (and continue to do so..), so this is not covered by the Innocent Misrepresentation, but instead of the 2 types of misrepresentation i listed above. This is atleast true for the UK, there is probably one for your country and one for the EU as well.

elderago

JFoul
TechPowerUp:
NVIDIA plans to release a fix for the GeForce GTX 970 memory allocation issue. In an informal statement to users of the GeForce Forums, an NVIDIA employee said that the company is working on a driver update that "will tune what's allocated where in memory to further improve performance." The employee also stressed that the GTX 970 is still the best performing graphics card at its price-point, and if current owners are not satisfied with their purchase, they should return it for a refund or exchange.

Cool would like more info but I am glad they are looking into a fix there is no reasion why people should go ape**** and accuse them of lying unless there is real proof they delibertly lies (as in some sort of credible leak they chose to falsely advertise)

Unfortunately, this was not true statement and was changed while after. No fix is being given to us... :(

plus i got really tired of the coil sound when gaming it was loud as hell it was all i heard from my pc was bugging the crap out of me :)

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-shilov/nvidia-we-will-not-boost-geforce-gtx-970-performance-with-drivers/

There is no fix coming, that mod was talking out of his ***. Pure damage control that caused even more of an uproar.

Well, nvidia has shot themselves in the foot.

I could now see them making a driver to make the usage more "optimized" but actually just making things run smoother by not allowing the cap to be reached as easily.

Only time will tell at this point.

Vlada011
We will see how this can reflect on NVIDIA politic in future, I doubt they could give lower price for GM200 because their mistake with 970.
I only afraid if they
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AMD prepare new The Fixer 3.
Did you saw in video clip, something happen with G-Sync too, that's what I read and it's not good, but now I think market will pay attention on every NVIDIA move and if really G-Sync could work without module they will uncover. And about Titan II price I read very cold words and explanation that same as Titan such card never offer good relation price/performance almost as told card not worth such price,
better forget or wait several months to price drop.
NVIDIA must correct politic little because toleration have limits. Now without reason they lose 3-4.000 loyal customers. 
 
http://gamenab.net/2015/01/26/truth-about-the-g-sync-marketing-module-nvidia-using-vesa-adaptive-sync-technology-freesync/
 
http://gamenab.net/2015/01/24/nvidia-g-sync-hack-working-on-every-monitor/
 
And what to say than if this is true. 
 
 

That claim on G-Sync has turned out to be completely fabricated. We don't need more rumors clogging up the threads.
 
 
Edit by Jedi:  Removed quote of an earlier post that was deleted for linking to a video with swearing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=85114404&v=spZJrsssPA0&x-yt-ts=1422579428
 
i had a good laugh from this video. Someone shared it on nvidia's forums.