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2015/01/26 08:14:26 (permalink)
I just got a 790i Ultra FTW with 2 Geforce GTX 690's in SLI.  With Intel Core2 Extreme CPU X9650  @ 3.00GHz And 2 sticks of Adata gaming series ddr3 8gb (2x4gb) 2000MHz. I know. Older hardware but it is what I have and can afford.
 
I'm interested in the optimal STABLE BIOS settings for my Motherboard. My memory is rated at 2000MHz but I can't seem to get it to go over 1766MHz (it is in slot 0 and 2 which should support 2000MHz on this board).
And I'm interested in getting the PCIe side of the board going as fast as possible for the 2 GTX 690's. 
I would also be interested in a tiny OC of the CPU. If it would benefit the FSB and making the Motherboard faster in general. Maybe to 3.2 GHz but that is not as important as stability.
 
I'm totally new to Overclocking so keep my lack of experience and terminology in mind.
 
Thanks.
 
Processor:
Brand = Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz
Family = 6
Model = 7
Stepping = 6

========== Operating System Information ==========
Microsoft Windows 7 Service Pack 1, Build 7601
========== Motherboard Information ==========
Motherboard Vendor: NVIDIA
Motherboard Version: 2.0
Motherboard Model: NF770I-SLI-N-B1
========== DirectX version Information ==========
DirectX 11.0 (6.1.7600.16385)
========== Driver Version Information ==========
Nforce Driver Package version Not reported
Audio Driver 1.3.33.0
Graphics Driver 347.25 (9.18.13.4725)
Ethernet Driver 73.20 (7.03.01.07320)
IDE Driver 11.1.0.43
nTune 6.05.30
========== Processor, Bus, and Memory Speed Information ==========
CPU Speed = 3167.364
CPU Multiplier = 9.500
FSB Frequency = 333
Memory Frequency = 1776.000
PCIE Frequency = 5000
tRas = 32
tRcd = 12
tRp = 12
tRc = 44
tWr = 12
tRrd = 6
tRwt = 15
tWtr = 19
tWrwr = 7
tRdrd = 10
tFAW = 28

========== GeForce Information ==========
GPU 1: GeForce GTX 690
GPU 1 Video BIOS version: 80.04.1e.00.14
GPU 2: GeForce GTX 690
GPU 2 Video BIOS version: 80.04.1e.00.13
GPU 3: GeForce GTX 690
GPU 3 Video BIOS version: 80.04.1e.00.14
GPU 4: GeForce GTX 690
GPU 4 Video BIOS version: 80.04.1e.00.13
========== GPU's Core and Memory Speed Information ==========

GPU Core Speed = 705
GPU Memory Speed = 3004

GPU Core Speed = 705
GPU Memory Speed = 3004

GPU Core Speed = 705
GPU Memory Speed = 3004

GPU Core Speed = 705
GPU Memory Speed = 3004
GPU SLI Mode Enabled.
========== System Voltage Information ==========
CPU Voltage = 1.240 v
nForce MCP Voltage = 1.500 v
nForce SPP = 1.400 v
Memory Voltage = 1.500 v
FSB CPU <-> SPP Voltage = 1.100 v
CPU Core0 GTL Vref boost = 4294.937v
CPU Core1 GTL Vref boost = 4294.937v
CPU Core2 GTL Vref boost = 0.000 v
CPU Core3 GTL Vref boost = 0.000 v
========== Memory SPD Information ==========
Memory Dimm 0 (0x50)
Memory type: DDR3 SDRAM
Error correction: NONE
Voltage interface level: HSTL (1.5V)
Data width: 64 bits
Number of physical banks: 2 (double sided)
Number of logical banks: 8
Number of row addresses: 15 15
Number of col addresses: 10 10
Bank density: 2048 2048 MB
Primary RAM Width: 8 8 bits
Error checking RAM Width: 0 0 bits
Self-refresh: Yes
CAS 7.0:
Min row precharge time (tRP): 13.125 ns
Min row active delay (tRRD): 6.000 ns
Min RAS to CAS delay (tRCD): 13.125 ns
Int Wr to Rd Cmd Dly (tWTR) 7.500 ns
Int Rd to Pchg Cmd Dly (tRTP) 7.500 ns
Min Act/Auto-Rfrsh Time (tRC) 49.125 ns
UDIMM (module width = 133.35mm)
Manufacturer's JEDEC ID code: 000000cb 0000000
Module manufacturing location: 0 (manufacture dependant)
Module part number: DDR3 2000G 2OZ
Module revision code: 0 (manufacture dependant)
Module manufacturing date: Wk 29 of 2018
Module serial number: bb760000
SPD revision: 1.1
Memory Dimm 1 (0x51)
Memory type: DDR3 SDRAM
Error correction: NONE
Voltage interface level: HSTL (1.5V)
Data width: 64 bits
Number of physical banks: 2 (double sided)
Number of logical banks: 8
Number of row addresses: 15 15
Number of col addresses: 10 10
Bank density: 2048 2048 MB
Primary RAM Width: 8 8 bits
Error checking RAM Width: 0 0 bits
Self-refresh: Yes
CAS 7.0:
Min row precharge time (tRP): 13.125 ns
Min row active delay (tRRD): 6.000 ns
Min RAS to CAS delay (tRCD): 13.125 ns
Int Wr to Rd Cmd Dly (tWTR) 7.500 ns
Int Rd to Pchg Cmd Dly (tRTP) 7.500 ns
Min Act/Auto-Rfrsh Time (tRC) 49.125 ns
UDIMM (module width = 133.35mm)
Manufacturer's JEDEC ID code: 000000cb 00000004
Module manufacturing location: 0 (manufacture dependant)
Module part number: DDR3 2000G 2OZ
Module revision code: 0 (manufacture dependant)
Module manufacturing date: Wk 29 of 2018
Module serial number: 21760000
SPD revision: 1.1
 
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/27 03:39:47 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby climb2bhi 2015/01/29 19:26:55
Welcome to the forums..Do you have the 790i Ultra or the 790i FTW? (a 790i Ultra FTW doesn't exist)..There are some differences which affect overclocking/tweaking..Also, what is the exact part number of your RAM, or the rated specs (timing and voltage) of it?..You can normally find out from a sticker affixed to the RAM.
 
Trying to run the memory frequency faster than the FSB (QDR) frequency will gain you nothing, and may even cause problems..For example, if you run the RAM at 2000MHz with the default 1333MHz FSB (QDR) frequency of a QX9650, you'd be trying to push the 2000MHz memory frequency over the 1333MHz FSB which would be a major bottleneck, only transferring data at 1333MHz.
 
If you want to effectively run the RAM at 2000MHz, you'd need try an FSB (QDR) of 2000MHz, and if you can even get it, you'll need to lower the CPU multiplier down from it's default 9x so you don't OC it to 4.5GHz right off the bat.
 
Remember that CPU frequency = FSB (QDR) divided by 4, times the CPU multiplier..So a 2000MHz FSB (QDR) divided by 4 = 500MHz, times 7 (for example) = 3500MHz (3.5GHz)..An FSB (QDR) frequency of 2000MHz with a 6x multiplier would maintain the stock 3.0GHz frequency of the QX9650..QDR means Quad Data Rate, which is four times the base FSB frequency..A 2000MHz FSB (QDR) would have a base frequency of 500MHz which is quad-pumped (4x) to 2000MHz..Enabling CPU N/2 Ratio (if not greyed out) will allow for .5x CPU multiplier adjustments (which you need to type in manually, if I remember correctly).
 
I'm not so sure your RAM will even work at 2000MHz if it's low voltage stuff, which doesn't play well with 790i boards..You may have to be happy with a lower frequency..No guarantee that 4GB sticks will work right either, some people use them without issue, but they really should go in logical DIMM slots 2 and 3 (the black, physical slots 2 and 4) as illustrated in the mobo manual.
 
When trying to overclock/tweak, it's usually best to start by setting the FSB - Memory Clock Mode to [Unlinked]..Also, with increased frequency, there will come a point where increased voltage is neccessary to achieve/maintain it.
 
That's just a little info for now to get you started until more is known and I, and/or others, can help you with more detailed settings and a BIOS template if you need.

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/27 06:59:05 (permalink)
Do what Bob says.  He'll get you set up on this board... I will keep an eye on this thread and put in my 2 cents when I can.
 
Can you get it stable with the ram at 1600?  you gunna have a hard time reaching 2000mhz on this board. I run my ram at 1700 linked and synced.
 
You are going to need a decent cpu OC for 2 690's IMO.

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/27 10:08:24 (permalink)
Thanks guys!
 
So some more info:
 
The MB is 132-YW-E179-A1 which is the EVGA 790i FTW. Looking at the comparison it seems better than the Ultra. Interestingly it has taken my CPU from it's default 3.0 GHz to 3.1GHz by the default settings of the motherboard. By using a 9.5 multiplier. 
 
I am glad to follow Bob's advice once this discussion has answered all of your questions about the exact hardware that I am working with. So Bob's advice on bringing up the base FSB to 500MHz sounds good, but makes me wonder about temperatures. Everything is air cooled the CPU has a good cooler on it but the MB just has the stock fan. All on this is running in a room with relatively cool temperatures and in a very well ventilated case.  
 
The Memory:
Adata gaming series DDR3 8GB 2000MHz Timing 9-11-9-27 1.65V to 1.7 or 1.75V max. It is currently running very stably at 1776MHz  at 1.65V with the current timings:
 
tRas = 32
tRcd = 12
tRp = 12
tRc = 44
tWr = 12
tRrd = 6
tRwt = 15
tWtr = 19
tWrwr = 7
tRdrd = 10
tFAW = 28
 
And with the following ratings:
Min row precharge time (tRP): 13.125 ns 
Min row active delay (tRRD): 6.000 ns 
Min RAS to CAS delay (tRCD): 13.125 ns 
Int Wr to Rd Cmd Dly (tWTR) 7.500 ns 
Int Rd to Pchg Cmd Dly (tRTP) 7.500 ns 
Min Act/Auto-Rfrsh Time (tRC) 49.125 ns 
UDIMM (module width = 133.35mm) 
Manufacturer's JEDEC ID code: 000000cb 0000000 
Module manufacturing location: 0 (manufacture dependant) 
Module part number: DDR3 2000G 2OZ 
 
Also the PCI latency is set at 32, and I read somewhere that increasing the latency could help deliver the large data to these big graphic cards before switching to the next card. Reducing load on the CPU?
 
Really looking forward to learning more about this. 
 
Thanks again for your help.
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/28 14:37:01 (permalink)
Having any luck there?
 
I know a 2000MHz FSB (QDR) can be very difficult/impossible to achieve sometimes..In the 1800MHz FSB (QDR) neighborhood is the usual stable maximum that a lot of ppl have reported, was on my 790i FTW too..Manually set the RAM frequency, timing and voltage and at a 2T Command Per Clock (CMD) in the BIOS..If you get stuck, copy this BIOS template, edit it with your most current stable settings and repost it here..Put a value beside anything that's on auto (CPU Core: [Auto] 1.3250, for example)..Also tell us what all you tried that did not work..You should also go into PC Health Status -> Dynamic Fan Control and manually set all fans to 100%, at least for the time being while you're messing around..Especially set/leave the nForce Fan Speed Control at 100% because the chipset tends to run notoriously hot..The Tj Max temperature for a QX9650 is 95C..Not sure about the PCI latency, never had the need to mess with it, I heard it might help though, I'd be inclined to leave it alone for now. 
 
BIOS Version:
(In Advanced BIOS Features, set Full Screen LOGO Show to [Disabled], reboot, press the Pause/Break key to freeze the first POST screen, look for the Release Number, I790SZ16 for example, the SZ number is the BIOS version, press any key to continue booting normally).
 
[System Clocks]
CPU Freq, MHz: 
FSB Reference Clock, MHz:
CPU Multiplier:
CPU N/2 Ratio:
PCIe x16-1 & x16-2, MHz:
PCIe x16-3, MHz:
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz:
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:
nForce SPP <-- nForce MCP:
CPU Spread Spectrum:
HT Spread Spectrum:
PCIe Spread Spectrum(SPP):
PCIe Spread Spectrum(MCP):
SATA Spread Spectrum:
 
[FSB & Memory Config]
EPP 2.0 Memory:
FSB - Memory Clock Mode:
FSB - Memory Ratio:
FSB (QDR), MHz:
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz:
x MEM (DDR), MHz:
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz:
P1:
P2:
 
[Memory Timing Setting]
Memory Timing Setting:
tCL (CAS Latency):
tRCD:
tRP:
tRAS:
Command Per Clock (CMD):
**Advanced Memory Settings**
tRRD:
tRC:
tWR:
tWTR:
tFAW:
tREF:
tRFC:
 
[System Voltages]
EVGA VDroop Control:
CPU Core:
CPU FSB:
Memory:
nForce SPP:
nForce MCP:
CPU PLL:
GTLVREF Lane 0:
GTLVREF Lane 1:
GTLVREF Lane 2:
GTLVREF Lane 3:
 
[CPU Feature]
Limit CPUID Maxval:
Intel Speedstep:
xPPM Mode:
CPU Thermal Control:
C1E Enhanced Halt State:
Execute Disable Bit:
Virtualization Technology:
CPU Core 0:
CPU Core 1:
CPU Core 2:
CPU Core 3:

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/28 19:55:30 (permalink)
Ok. Here is where it is at now:  (Everything is at the default (stock) MB settings except not knowing what I was doing I bumped the memory to 1800 and the memory voltage to 1.65V)
I'm totally new to Overclocking so please suggest what settings I should use. Aiming at the 1800MHz FSB that you recommended.
 
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz:[AUTO] 200
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:[5 x]
nForce SPP <-- nForce MCP:[5 x]
CPU Spread Spectrum:[CENTER SPREAD]
HT Spread Spectrum:[AUTO]
PCIe Spread Spectrum(SPP):[DISABLED
PCIe Spread Spectrum(MCP):[AUTO]
SATA Spread Spectrum:[DISABLED]

[FSB & Memory Config]
EPP 2.0 Memory: NOT DETECTED
FSB - Memory Clock Mode:[UNLINKED]
FSB - Memory Ratio:Auto
FSB (QDR), MHz:1333
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz:1333.3
x MEM (DDR), MHz:1800
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz:1777.8
P1:[Auto]
P2:[Auto]

[Memory Timing Setting]
Memory Timing Setting:[Optimal]
tCL (CAS Latency):Auto(9)
tRCD:Auto(12)
tRP:Auto(12)
tRAS:Auto(32)
Command Per Clock (CMD):Auto(2T)
**Advanced Memory Settings**
tRRD:Auto(6)
tRC:Auto(44)
tWR:Auto(12)
tWTR:Auto(19)
tFAW:Auto(28)
tREF:Auto 7.7us
tRFC:Auto(143)

[System Voltages]
EVGA VDroop Control: (this entry does not appear)
CPU Core:[Auto] 1.24V
CPU FSB:[Auto] 1.1V
Memory:[1.65V]
nForce SPP:[Auto] 1.40V
nForce MCP:[Auto] 1.500V
CPU PLL: (this entry does not appear)
GTLVREF Lane 0:[Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 1:[Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 2:[Auto] +00mv
GTLVREF Lane 3:[Auto] +00mv

[CPU Feature]
Limit CPUID Maxval:[Disabled]
Intel Speedstep:[Disabled]
xPPM Mode:Native Mode
CPU Thermal Control:[Disabled]
C1E Enhanced Halt State:[Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit:[Enabled]
Virtualization Technology:[Enabled]
CPU Core 0: Enabled
CPU Core 1:[Enabled]
CPU Core 2:[Enabled]
CPU Core 3:[Enabled]
 
Thanks again for your time and help.
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/28 22:53:55 (permalink)
No problem, but you need to provide all the BIOS settings/info, not just most..If a setting/info isn't there, which sometimes may not be depending on the specific hardware configuration or BIOS version, then just put (not there) or (this entry does not appear) like you did with VDroop and CPU PLL..So edit your post #6..What is the BIOS version Release Number and all the other System Clocks settings/info?

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/29 19:25:02 (permalink)
Ok Here's pretty much the whole BIOS. Minus some of the things that are not settings.
 
BIOS Version: (6A61mb02) Release Number 811N2P10 (it is the most recent available from EVGA)
[Advanced BIOS Features]
>Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter]
>CD-ROM Boot Priority [Press Enter]
>Network Boot Priority [Press enter]
CPU Internal Cache [Enabled]
Quick Power On Self Test [Enabled]
First Boot Device [CDROM]
Second Boot Device [Hard Disk]
Third Boot Device [Removable]
Boot Other Device [Enabled]
Boot Up NumLock Status [On]
Security Option [Setup]
APIC Mode [Enabled]
MPS Version Control For OS[1.4]
Full Screen LOGO Show [Disabled]
Advanced Chipset Features
[System Clocks]
CPU Freq, MHz: 3166.7
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1333.3
CPU Multiplier: [9 X] CURRENT 9.5X
CPU N/2 Ratio: ENABLED
PCIe x16-1 & x16-2, MHz:[AUTO] 100
PCIe x16-3, MHz:[AUTO] 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz:[AUTO] 200
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:[5 x]
nForce SPP <-- nForce MCP:[5 x]
CPU Spread Spectrum:[CENTER SPREAD]
HT Spread Spectrum:[AUTO]
PCIe Spread Spectrum(SPP):[DISABLED
PCIe Spread Spectrum(MCP):[AUTO]
SATA Spread Spectrum:[DISABLED]

[FSB & Memory Config]
EPP 2.0 Memory: NOT DETECTED
FSB - Memory Clock Mode:[UNLINKED]
FSB - Memory Ratio:Auto
FSB (QDR), MHz:1333
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz:1333.3
x MEM (DDR), MHz:1800
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz:1777.8
P1:[Auto]
P2:[Auto]
[Memory Timing Setting]
Memory Timing Setting:[Optimal]
tCL (CAS Latency):Auto(9)
tRCD:Auto(12)
tRP:Auto(12)
tRAS:Auto(32)
Command Per Clock (CMD):Auto(2T)
**Advanced Memory Settings**
tRRD:Auto(6)
tRC:Auto(44)
tWR:Auto(12)
tWTR:Auto(19)
tFAW:Auto(28)
tREF:Auto 7.7us
tRFC:Auto(143)
[CPU Configuration]
Limit CPUID Maxval:[Disabled]
Intel Speedstep:[Disabled]
xPPM Mode:Native Mode
CPU Thermal Control:[Disabled]
C1E Enhanced Halt State:[Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit:[Enabled]
Virtualization Technology:[Enabled]
CPU Core 0: Enabled
CPU Core 1:[Enabled]
CPU Core 2:[Enabled]
CPU Core 3:[Enabled]
[System Voltages]
EVGA VDroop Control: (this entry does not appear)
CPU Core:[Auto] 1.24V
CPU FSB:[Auto] 1.1V
Memory:[1.65V]
nForce SPP:[Auto] 1.40V
nForce MCP:[Auto] 1.500V
CPU PLL: (this entry does not appear)
GTLVREF Lane 0:[Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 1:[Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 2:[Auto] +00mv
GTLVREF Lane 3:[Auto] +00mv
NVMEM memory test [Disable]
OS Comp [Auto]
Load timing/voltage set [Press Enter]
Save timing/voltage set [Press Enter]
System BIOS Cacheable [Disabled]
HPET Function [Enabled]
Integrated Peripherals
[IDE Function Setup]
OnChip IDE Channel0 [Enabled]
Primary Master PIO [Auto]
Primary Slave PIO [Auto]
Primary Master UDMA [Auto]
Primary Slave UDMA [Auto]
IDE DMA transfer access [Enabled]
Serial-ATA Controler [All Enabled]
IDE Prefetch Mode [Enabled]
[RAID Config]
RAID Enable [Disabled]
(list of six SATA ports all Disabled)
[USB Config]
OnChip USB [V1.1+V2.0]
USB Keyboard Support [Enabled]
USB Mouse Support [Enabled]
[MAC Config]
MAC0 Lan [Auto]
MAC1 Lan [Auto]
[MCP SATA -> eSATA Config]
SATA 1 (A0) as eSATA [Disabled]
SATA 2 (A1) as eSATA [Disabled]
SATA 3 (B0) as eSATA [Disabled]
SATA 4 (B1) as eSATA [Disabled]
SATA 5 (C0) as eSATA [Disabled]
SATA 6 (C1) as eSATA [Disabled]
IEEE1394 Controller [Enabled]
JMicron AHCI Controller [Enabled]
HD Audio [Auto]
IDE HDD Block Mode [Enabled]
Onboard FDC Controller [Enabled]
Onboard Serial Port 1 [3F8/IRQ4]
Power Management Setup
ACPI function [Enabled]
ACPI Suspend Type [S3(STR)]
Soft-Off by PBTN [Instant-Off]
WOL(PME#) From Soft-Off [Disabled]
WOL(RI#) From Soft-Off [Disabled]
PWRON After PWR-Fail [Off]
Power-On by Alarm [Disabled]
POWER ON Function [BUTTON ONLY]
PnP/PCI Configurations
Init Display First [PCI Slot]
Reset Configuration [Disabled]
Resources Controled By [Auto(ESCD)]
PCI/VGA Palette Snoop [Disabled]
PCI Latency Timer(CLK) [ 32]
** PCI Express relative items **
Maximum Payload Size [4096]
System Monitor
>Dynamic Fan Control [Press Enter]
CPU0 54 C/ 129 F
Board 32 C/ 90 F
CPU Core 1.24 V
CPU Current C2.59 A (3.57 breifly then back)
Memory 0.89 V
nForce SPP 1.42 V
+3.3V 3.28 V
+3.3V Dual 3.28 V
+12V 12.12 V
+Vbat 3.21 V
CPU Fan Speed 1328 RPM
nForce Fan Speed 4405 RPM
(all other fans x7 direct to power supply and at 100%)
 
Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks yet again.
 
 
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/29 20:24:07 (permalink)
First and foremost, listen to bob. What I'm about to type would probably be considered the ravings of a lunatic by comparison. Anyway, I thought I'd chip in two small comments. First, your CPU has a TDP of 125W, which means it can pull a bit of power, but also that it will throw off a fair amount of heat. The Tj max for your CPU is 95 degrees. Make sure you watch that closely when load testing. You shouldn't get close to that unless you're aiming north of 4GHz and are having to increase voltage to hit it.
 
Second, I'm personally running a Q9550, which is like the little brother to your x9650. These chips have one setting that is a bit bizarre from other 775 socket chips: the N/2 multiplier. That's what gives the ".5" on your multiplier, and can be a bit of a pain to deal with. So your FSB/4 = 333.33 right now. Multiply that by your 9.5 multiplier, and you get your 3166MHz clock speed. Disable that N/2, and that drops your multiplier to 9, which in turn drops your clock speed to an even 3GHz.
 
The reason I mention that is because as you start bumping up your FSB higher, that N/2 can result in some screwy clock speeds, and may cause you to have to bump up your vcore sooner than you think. For example, I run my FSB at 1800 with an 8.0 multiplier (N/2 disabled). That puts me at a nice even 3.6GHz overclock, and I don't have to increase voltage to hit that. But with N/2 enabled, that bumps my multiplier to 8.5, which lands me at 3.825GHz, and I have to throw a fair amount of extra voltage at the CPU to get it stable - which means more heat, higher temps, etc. All that mess for 225MHz on the core. So even though the only thing I did was to enable N/2, that causes me quite a few headaches trying to get the thing stable. I'm not saying you should just disable it, but it is something "extra" you can control when deciding what overclock you're comfortable with. And don't be scared to overclock a bit - your chip was really made for it.

 


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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/29 20:56:07 (permalink)
jmaertens,
 
Thanks for the info. It is really interesting to learn about all of this. And your post was educational for me. It seems that the 780i MB that I just upgraded from either did not have the N/2 multiplier or it was disabled because my CPU was at 3.0GHz and as soon as I moved it over to this board it was running at 3.166GHz by default.
 
I don't think I'm looking for much of a overclock on the CPU although it is nice to hear that it was made for it. My first and main goal is to try to speed up the pipeline to my 2 huge data hungry GTX 690's. Because I'm sure that from their point of view my whole system is a bottleneck. If I can speed up the data between the Graphics and MB and get a small relatively cool and very stable OC on the CPU and keep the memory fast and happy too, I think that is what I'm looking for. I'm a avid gamer looking for good quality and no frustrating crashes. I'm obviously not an Overclocker looking to find out what the upper limits of my system are.
 
Looking forward to giving this a careful try. And Bob's avatar alone inspires confidence. :)
 
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/30 01:08:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby climb2bhi 2015/01/30 05:33:44
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Bob's avatar alone inspires confidence. :)



...Okay, you have an issue there..You say that your mobo is a 132-YW-E179-A1..An E179 board is indeed a 790i FTW..But, the BIOS Release Number you provided is 811N2P10 and is the P10 BIOS for a 790i Ultra which doesn't Have VDroop Control or CPU PLL adjustments like the FTW board does, which had me scratching my head before and that's why I wanted to see the Release Number to be sure..A BIOS for a non-digital FTW board would be an SZ number, the Release Number would be I790SZ16 for example, for the SZ16 BIOS version..Can you confirm that your board is in fact a 132-YW-E179-A1 790i FTW, and if it is, then somehow it has the 790i Ultra P10 BIOS flashed to it..Need to stop right here and now until everything is confirmed that it is what is and what it should be..There are visual differences you could look for besides the sticker on the board and compare between the FTW and the Ultra, most noticeable to me would be the color of the RAM slots..Black/Blue on the FTW and Black/Grey on the Ultra.
 
Also, you'll get a much, much more responsive and higher performing system by OC'ing that QX9650 vs. running the RAM at 2000MHz..Even if you run the RAM at 1600MHz and OC the QX9650 to, say, 3.6GHz (or more) would be much better..There's not alot of performance to be gained with faster RAM as compared to a faster CPU..A CPU would bottleneck your system much more than RAM would and that should be your primary area of focus..Overclocking the CPU while getting the RAM to run as fast as possible is what you should want to do.  

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/30 05:07:17 (permalink)
Bob,
OK. It has the Blue/Black RAM slots. And the sticker on it says 132-YW-E179-A1. I flashed the BIOS to trying to have it be the most up to date it could be. And thinking that I had a Ultra that was what I downloaded I am now downloading the FTW BIOS and will flash it tonight. Thanks for catching that!
 
   "Overclocking the CPU while getting the RAM to run as fast as possible is what you should want to do."  
I'm going to follow your advise here. Earlier you were talking about OC-ing the MB too. Isn't that a benefit to the communication to the graphics cards too? As I said I,m looking for good performance with gaming. And I will follow your advice to get a good performing machine.
 
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/30 05:34:20 (permalink)
Aha!..I knew something wasn't right there..Yes, you want the SZ17 BIOS for your E179 FTW..Some games are more CPU dependent than GPU dependent, but all games still use the CPU, of course..With your two extremely (not just a little bit) powerfull 690's in SLI, your QX9650 running at stock speed is almost certainly a major bottleneck..What you can do now is run a benchmark like Unigine Heaven or 3DMark and see what the scores are, then later after you OC you can compare them..Post again when you have the SZ17 installed and we can go from there.

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/31 07:40:07 (permalink)
Ok. Here is my newest snag. I can not flash the correct BIOS to my motherboard. I think because I have flashed the wrong one to it. 
_________________________________________
AwardBIOS Flash Utility V8.91 
(C)Phoenix Technologies Ltd. All Rights Reserved
_________________________________________
For 132-CK-NF79-6A61MB02C-00 Date: 12/30/2009
Flash type-
 
File Name to Program : e179sz17.bin
 
   -> The program file's part number     <-
   -> does not match with your system! <-
 
_________________________________________
Message: Please input File Name !
_________________________________________
A:\>
 
Attached are some images of my board to confirm the model.
 
What do I do now?
 

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/31 09:56:34 (permalink)
Bob,
I am one post away from being able to respond to your PM. Maybe this will unlock it?
 
If you could help with making a force-flash autoexec.bat I would really appreciate it. Because when it comes to " /py /sn /f /cc /r DOS switches to force the flash" I'm really lost. I'm not too worried about it failing since I can buy a new BIOS chip for my board on ebay for $20.
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/31 10:05:03 (permalink)
Okay..Will work on it..Will be tomorrow..Will get back to you.

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/01/31 17:27:42 (permalink)
Got it! Thanks.
BIOS and current BIOS settings changed to:
 
Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Copyright (C) 1984-2003, Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Release Number I790SZ17

[Advanced BIOS Features]
>Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter]
>CD-ROM Boot Priority [Press Enter]
CPU Internal Cache [Enabled]
Quick Power On Self Test [Enabled]
First Boot Device [CDROM]
Second Boot Device [Hard Disk]
Third Boot Device [Removable]
Boot Other Device [Enabled]
Boot Up NumLock Status [On]
Security Option [Setup]
APIC Mode [Enabled]
MPS Version Control For OS[1.4]
Full Screen LOGO Show [Disabled]
Advanced Chipset Features
Syatem BIOS Cacheable [Disabled]
HPET Function [Enabled]

Integrated Peripherals
[IDE Function Setup]
OnChip IDE Channel0 [Enabled]
Primary Master PIO [Auto]
Primary Slave PIO [Auto]
Primary Master UDMA [Auto]
Primary Slave UDMA [Auto]
IDE DMA transfer access [Enabled]
Serial-ATA Controler [All Enabled]
IDE Prefetch Mode [Enabled]
IDE HDD Block Mode [Enabled]
[RAID Config]
RAID Enable [Disabled]
x SATA 1 (A0) RAID Disabled
x SATA 2 (A1) RAID Disabled
x SATA 3 (B0) RAID Disabled
x SATA 4 (B1) RAID Disabled
x SATA 5 (C0) RAID Disabled
x SATA 6 (C1) RAID Disabled
[USB Config]
OnChip USB [V1.1+V2.0]
USB Memory Type [SHADOW]
USB Keyboard Support [Enabled]
USB Mouse Support [Enabled]
[MAC Config]
MAC0 Lan [Auto]
MAC1 Lan [Auto]
IEEE1394 Controller [Enabled]
JMicron AHCI Controller (SATA 7/8) [Enabled]
JMicron AHCI Controller (SATA 9/10) [Enabled]
HD Audio [Auto]
Onboard FDC Controller [Enabled]
Onboard Serial Port 1 [3F8/IRQ4]
Power Management Setup
ACPI function [Enabled]
ACPI Suspend Type [S3(STR)]
Soft-Off by PBTN [Instant-Off]
WOL(PME#) From Soft-Off [Disabled]
WOL(RI#) From Soft-Off [Disabled]
PWRON After PWR-Fail [Off]
Power-On by Alarm [Disabled]
POWER ON Function [BUTTON ONLY]
PnP/PCI Configurations
Init Display First [PCI Slot]
Resources Controled By [Auto(ESCD)]
PCI/VGA Palette Snoop [Disabled]
PCI Latency Timer(CLK) [ 32]
** PCI Express relative items **
Maximum Payload Size [4096]
PC Health Status
>Dynamic Fan Control [Press Enter]
CPU0 48 C/ 118 F
Board 31 C/ 88 F
MCP55 57 C/ 135 F
CPU Core 1.20 V
*5V 5.00 V
Memory 1.82 V
nForce SPP 1.42 V
+3.3V 3.26 V
+12V 12.12 V
+Vbat 3.21 V
CPU Fan Speed 1328 RPM
Chassis Fan Speed 0 RPM
Chassis Fan2 Speed 0 RPM
AUX Fan Speed 0 RPM
nForce Fan Speed 4405 RPM
(all other fans x7 direct to power supply and at 100%)
Frequency/Voltage Control
[System Clocks]
CPU Freq, MHz: 3166.7
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1333.3
CPU Multiplier: [9 X] CURRENT 9.5X
CPU N/2 Ratio: [ENABLED]
PCIe x16-1 & x16-2, MHz: [AUTO] 100
PCIe x16-3, MHz: [AUTO] 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [AUTO] 200
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:[5 x]
nForce SPP <-- nForce MCP:[5 x]
CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
HT Spread Spectrum: [AUTO]
PCIe Spread Spectrum(SPP):[DISABLED
PCIe Spread Spectrum(MCP):[AUTO]
SATA Spread Spectrum: [DISABLED]

[FSB & Memory Config]
EPP 2.0 Memory: NOT DETECTED
FSB - Memory Clock Mode:[UNLINKED]
FSB - Memory Ratio: Auto
FSB (QDR), MHz: [1333]
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: 1333.3
x MEM (DDR), MHz: [1800]
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: 1777.8
P1: [Auto]
P2: [Auto]

[Memory Timing Setting]
Memory Timing Setting: [Optimal]
tCL (CAS Latency): Auto(9)
tRCD: Auto(12)
tRP: Auto(12)
tRAS: Auto(32)
Command Per Clock (CMD): Auto(2T)
**Advanced Memory Settings**
tRRD: Auto(6)
tRC: Auto(44)
tWR: Auto(12)
tWTR: Auto(19)
tFAW: Auto(28)
tRFC: Auto(110)
tREF: Auto 7.7us
[CPU Feature]
Limit CPUID Maxval: [Disabled]
Intel Speedstep: [Disabled]
xPPM Mode: Native Mode
CPU Thermal Control: [Disabled]
C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Enabled]
Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology: [Enabled]
CPU Core 0: Enabled
CPU Core 1:[Enabled]
CPU Core 2:[Enabled]
CPU Core 3:[Enabled]
[System Voltages]
EVGA VDroop Control: [With VDroop]
CPU Core: [Auto] 1.25V
CPU FSB: [Auto] 1.1V
Memory: [1.700V]
nForce SPP: [Auto] 1.42V
nForce MCP: [Auto] 1.500V
CPU PLL: [Auto] 1.5V
GTLVREF Lane 0: [Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 1: [Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 2: [Auto] +00mv
GTLVREF Lane 3: [Auto] +00mv
Load timing/voltage set [Press Enter]
Save timing/voltage set [Press Enter]
 
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/01 08:31:26 (permalink)
Okay, awesome ..Now that you've got the right BIOS with the goodies installed from my OneDrive page for your FTW we can try some things..I had to take apart the SZ17.iso BIOS update package and re-write the auotoexec command line switches for you so that it would force-flash..Forgot to mention the "Press CTRL-F1 to enter Award BIOS Flash"..Gotta roll to the mall with the wife now but will be back in a few hours or so to post a template with some settings you can try..Should be able to get that QX9650 screamin' like a banshee and maybe get the RAM up to or near 2000MHz, but don't count on that one too much.

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/01 10:52:46 (permalink)
Manually change/lock in and try these settings for now..It's a 1600MHz FSB (QDR) with a 9x CPU multiplier which will give you 3.6GHz (3600MHz) on the CPU, but only a 1600MHz RAM speed on your 2000MHz RAM..Be sure to keep an eye on the cores temps, the Tj Max is 95C and if you you Real Temp (or some other temp monitoring utils), the Tj Max usually defaults to 100C, so you need to check on it and change that if neccessary..Just try these speeds for now to see how it's gonna act..1600MHz FSB (QDR) is a sweet spot for a 790i, so let's roll with that for the time being.
Run a bench or two like Unigine Valley or 3DMark (preferrably) before you begin so you can compare before/after scores for kicks.
 
http://unigine.com/products/valley/
http://www.3dmark.com/
 
**PC Health Status**
Dynamic Fan Control: All fans manually to 100% (for the time being)
 
**System Clocks**
CPU Multiplier: [9x]
CPU N/2 Ratio: [Disabled]
PCIe x16-1 & x16-2, MHz: [100]
PCIe x16-3, MHz: [100]
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [200]
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP: [Auto]
nForce SPP <-- nForce MCP: [Auto]
CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
HT Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
PCIe Spread Spectrum(SPP): [Disabled]
PCIe Spread Spectrum(MCP): [Disabled]
SATA Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
 
**FSB & Memory Config**
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: [Linked]
FSB - Memory Ratio: [Sync mode]
FSB (QDR), MHz: [1600]
MEM (DDR), Mhz: [1600]
P1: [Enabled]
P2: [Enabled]
 
**Memory Timing Setting**
Memory Timing Setting: [Expert]
tCL (CAS Latency): [To RAM mfgr spec]
tRCD: [To RAM mfgr spec]
tRP: [To RAM mfgr spec]
tRAS: [To RAM mfgr spec]
Command Per Clock (CMD): [2T]
 
**Advanced Memory Settings**
All on [Auto]
 
**System Voltages**
EVGA VDroop Control: [Without VDroop]
CPU Core: [1.4V] (try for now..BSOD or freezing = may need slightly more)
CPU FSB: [Bump it up a notch or two from 1.1V]
Memory: [To mfgr spec]
nForce SPP: [1.42V]
nForce MCP: [1.5V]
CPU PLL: [1.5V]
 
**CPU Feature**
Intel Speedstep: [Disabled]
CPU Thermal Control: [TM1 & TM2]
C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology: [Disabled]
 
If that works out, you can try raising the FSB (QDR) to 1800MHz and lower the CPU multipler to 8x and see how it works..You'll still have the CPU at 3.6GHz but the RAM at 1800MHz.

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/01 13:00:37 (permalink)
Trouble.
Went to the 1600 FSB settings and it crashed after a couple of minutes. Reset Memory timings to Auto. And it ran for a while. Ran Unigine Heaven which hid my temps from me. And it crashed. It would not reboot so I reset the CMOS. Still will not boot. Showing error code A0.
What have I done?
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/01 19:18:07 (permalink)
OK back up and running. Nothing I could do would get rid of the AO Post Code. It took putting everything back on the old 780i Board and it worked again. Then I put everything back on the 790i FTW board and it is back up and running. I'm back at the 1333MHz FSB because every time I tried to get the FSB to 1600 it would crash. Even with the FSB at 1600MHz and the CPU at only 3.2Ghz.
 
This is where I'm currently at:
 
Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Copyright (C) 1984-2003, Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Release Number I790SZ17

[Advanced BIOS Features]
>Hard Disk Boot Priority [Press Enter]
>CD-ROM Boot Priority [Press Enter]
CPU Internal Cache [Enabled]
Quick Power On Self Test [Enabled]
First Boot Device [CDROM]
Second Boot Device [Hard Disk]
Third Boot Device [Removable]
Boot Other Device [Enabled]
Boot Up NumLock Status [On]
Security Option [Setup]
APIC Mode [Enabled]
MPS Version Control For OS[1.4]
Full Screen LOGO Show [Disabled]
Advanced Chipset Features
Syatem BIOS Cacheable [Disabled]
HPET Function [Enabled]

Integrated Peripherals
[IDE Function Setup]
OnChip IDE Channel0 [Enabled]
Primary Master PIO [Auto]
Primary Slave PIO [Auto]
Primary Master UDMA [Auto]
Primary Slave UDMA [Auto]
IDE DMA transfer access [Enabled]
Serial-ATA Controler [All Enabled]
IDE Prefetch Mode [Enabled]
IDE HDD Block Mode [Enabled]
[RAID Config]
RAID Enable [Disabled]
x SATA 1 (A0) RAID Disabled
x SATA 2 (A1) RAID Disabled
x SATA 3 (B0) RAID Disabled
x SATA 4 (B1) RAID Disabled
x SATA 5 (C0) RAID Disabled
x SATA 6 (C1) RAID Disabled
[USB Config]
OnChip USB [V1.1+V2.0]
USB Memory Type [SHADOW]
USB Keyboard Support [Enabled]
USB Mouse Support [Enabled]
[MAC Config]
MAC0 Lan [Auto]
MAC1 Lan [Auto]
IEEE1394 Controller [Enabled]
JMicron AHCI Controller (SATA 7/8) [Enabled]
JMicron AHCI Controller (SATA 9/10) [Enabled]
HD Audio [Auto]
Onboard FDC Controller [Enabled]
Onboard Serial Port 1 [3F8/IRQ4]
Power Management Setup
ACPI function [Enabled]
ACPI Suspend Type [S3(STR)]
Soft-Off by PBTN [Instant-Off]
WOL(PME#) From Soft-Off [Disabled]
WOL(RI#) From Soft-Off [Disabled]
PWRON After PWR-Fail [Off]
Power-On by Alarm [Disabled]
POWER ON Function [BUTTON ONLY]
PnP/PCI Configurations
Init Display First [PCI Slot]
Resources Controled By [Auto(ESCD)]
PCI/VGA Palette Snoop [Disabled]
PCI Latency Timer(CLK) [ 32]
** PCI Express relative items **
Maximum Payload Size [4096]
PC Health Status
>Dynamic Fan Control [Press Enter]
CPU0 50 C/ 122 F
Board 32 C/ 90 F
MCP55 55 C/ 131 F
CPU Core 1.34 V
*5V 5.00 V
Memory 1.63 V
nForce SPP 1.42 V
+3.3V 3.28 V
+12V 12.12 V
+Vbat 3.21 V
CPU Fan Speed 3068 RPM
Chassis Fan Speed 0 RPM
Chassis Fan2 Speed 0 RPM
AUX Fan Speed 0 RPM
nForce Fan Speed 5850 RPM
(all other fans x7 direct to power supply and at 100%)
Frequency/Voltage Control
[System Clocks]
CPU Freq, MHz: 3166.7
FSB Reference Clock, MHz: 1333.3
CPU Multiplier: [9 X] CURRENT 9.5X
CPU N/2 Ratio: [ENABLED]
PCIe x16-1 & x16-2, MHz: [AUTO] 100
PCIe x16-3, MHz: [AUTO] 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz: [AUTO] 200
nForce SPP --> nForce MCP:[5 x]
nForce SPP <-- nForce MCP:[5 x]
CPU Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
HT Spread Spectrum: [Disabled]
PCIe Spread Spectrum(SPP):[DISABLED]
PCIe Spread Spectrum(MCP):[Disabled]
SATA Spread Spectrum: [DISABLED]

[FSB & Memory Config]
EPP 2.0 Memory: NOT DETECTED
FSB - Memory Clock Mode:[UNLINKED]
FSB - Memory Ratio: Auto
FSB (QDR), MHz: [1333]
Actual FSB (QDR), MHz: 1333.3
x MEM (DDR), MHz: [1800]
Actual MEM (DDR), MHz: 1777.8
P1: [Enabled]
P2: [Enabled]

[Memory Timing Setting]
Memory Timing Setting: [Optimal]
tCL (CAS Latency): Auto(9)
tRCD: Auto(12)
tRP: Auto(12)
tRAS: Auto(32)
Command Per Clock (CMD): Auto(2T)
**Advanced Memory Settings**
tRRD: Auto(6)
tRC: Auto(44)
tWR: Auto(12)
tWTR: Auto(19)
tFAW: Auto(28)
tRFC: Auto(110)
tREF: Auto 7.7us
[CPU Feature]
Limit CPUID Maxval: [Disabled]
Intel Speedstep: [Disabled]
xPPM Mode: Native Mode
CPU Thermal Control: [TM1 & TM2]
C1E Enhanced Halt State: [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit: [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology: [Disabled]
CPU Core 0: Enabled
CPU Core 1:[Enabled]
CPU Core 2:[Enabled]
CPU Core 3:[Enabled]
[System Voltages]
EVGA VDroop Control: [With VDroop]
CPU Core: [1.40000] 1.40000V
CPU FSB: [1.175V] 1.175V
Memory: [1.650V] 1.650V
nForce SPP: [Auto] 1.42V
nForce MCP: [1.550V] 1.550V
CPU PLL: [Auto] 1.5V
GTLVREF Lane 0: [Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 1: [Auto] -30mv
GTLVREF Lane 2: [Auto] +00mv
GTLVREF Lane 3: [Auto] +00mv
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/02 02:58:39 (permalink)
Wow, very strange..Sorry you're having issues but glad you got it up and running again..There's nothing in the BIOS settings I gave you that should affect it like that..POST code A0 points to a CPU issue, an initialization issue/clock multiplier issue.
 
Maybe try reflashing again..You might try getting the SZ17 update yourself again now directly from EVGA at http://cdn.evga.com/bios/E179_SZ17.iso or the previous SZ16 at http://cdn.evga.com/bios/E179_SZ16.iso to burn to a CD to flash using the procedure described here..It shouldn't give you the mismatch error now like before..If you want the .exe version, just change .iso extension to .exe
 
SZ17 (being the latest) and the previous SZ16 are definately the BIOS's for an E179 FTW non-digital board which you have.
 
Hoping nothing bad happened from you flashing the P10 Ultra BIOS to it before, I doubt if it did.
 
You can use MSI Afterburner along with RivaTuner Statistics Server and set it up to show the CPU core temps (and other things) in the on-screen display.
 
 
 
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/02 04:59:01 (permalink)
It seems all good at 1333. I even stress tested it with Valley and Heaven. I will try flashing the BIOS again. Take a look at my voltages (#21 above) and see if anything there could provide the stability to run at 1600MHz.  Temps were good during the 1333 benchmarks CPU at around 60C and MCP at 58C with the voltages posted in #21 above. I was thinking of separating the OC of the CPU from the FSB for isolating problems. So keep FSB at 1333 OC CPU to 3.6 test. CPU to 3.0 ish and FSB to 1600 and test.
 
Any other thoughts on isolating the problem? 
 
I'll look in to Afterburner and RivaTuner.
 
Thanks.
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/03 11:23:01 (permalink)
I just read somewhere that nVidia 790i chipset had a FSB hole from 1500MHz to 1600MHz. Is this true? Or has a BIOS update fixed this?
 
Thoughts?
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/03 13:40:56 (permalink)
I do believe there is a sticky about forcing the CMOS to clear by pulling the battery and a few other things.
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/03 20:12:48 (permalink)
Reflashed BIOS. Set FSB and memory to default 1333MHz. Fans to 100%. CPU Core to 1.35V CPU FSB to 1.175V. Multiplyer to x11 for 3.66GHz. Ran stress tests with Prime95 and everything was stable but temps went to 77C. Ran torture test and temps went to 80C. Everything stable with Unigine Heaven and Valley.
 
Should I be worried about these temps?  
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/03 21:57:54 (permalink)
You should have a ton of overclocking headroom. I'm running this board with an Intel Xeon X5470 quad core. I did the 771 to 775 socket mod. I can OC from 3.33Ghz stock to 4.85Ghz stable with all 4 Dimm's synced 1:1 with the FSB. My 24/7 clocks are as follows
 
FSB:  1760 Mhz
MEM:  1760 Mhz x4
 
You also need to be running those 690's in the first two PCI-E slots. The third slot is only PCI-E 1.0 and will cripple your second card. Slot three also uses the CPU's 16 lanes where as the top two use lanes provided by the NF200 chip.
 
I love when people tell me my hardware is old..because while it is in fact outdated it still runs circles around anything AMD FX quad and hex core cpu's even after you OC them. To get a better idea of the performance capabilities...my own personal testing concludes about the same performance as a stock Core i5 3570K in most scenarios. I also run 3X GTX 770's in sli with no bottleneck in most games. Anyone interested in this mod can PM me or OP can PM with any bios questions/settings recommendations.
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/03 22:02:08 (permalink)
Some people/reviews claim FSB holes, some do not..Some people/reviews claim  higher FSB speed issues with P1/P2 enabled, or issues with only with P1 enabled..I know the board can be kinda quirky sometimes depending on particular CPU and RAM (especially) installed and require a lot of trial/error testing.
 
Your 4GB sticks of RAM could be an issue as I said in post #2..While technically supporting up to 2000MHz RAM, the board only technically supports 2GB sticks and that could be a major sticking point you..If you have some 2GB sticks, that would be the way to go..Maybe try taking out one of the 4GB sticks?
 
You might have an FSB hole..You could try with even higher FSB speed (up to 2000MHz) and keep the CPU multiplier low enough so the OC won't be insane which would get the RAM running faster..Or you could try lower FSB with a higher CPU multiplier to OC the CPU but would effectively run the RAM slower..Or find a trade-off in the middle..In your post #21, the RAM is running at 1800MHz on auto and a 1333MHz FSB so it's only effectively transferring data at 1333MHz over the 1333MHz FSB anyway..FSB Memory Clock/Memory Ratio is best linked/synced but that's not always possible either..Nothing really jumps out at me in post #21 except 1800MHz RAM over the 1333MHz FSB, I (and others) have corrupted the operating system like that requiring a reinstall.
 
I'd try 2000/1800MHz FSB but with a lower CPU mutiplier and play with P1/P2 and see what happens..The core temps at 80C aren't much to be worried about during testing with Prime95, the Tj Max is 95C..I use Intel Burn Test instead in the standard mode, it's much faster and if you get through 10 passes which only take a minute or two you should be good to go..To lower the core temps you could lower the CPU voltage but then you might run into stability issues..You wanna keep the CPU voltage low as possible while still being stable.

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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/03 22:03:19 (permalink)
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Reflashed BIOS. Set FSB and memory to default 1333MHz. Fans to 100%. CPU Core to 1.35V CPU FSB to 1.175V. Multiplyer to x11 for 3.66GHz. Ran stress tests with Prime95 and everything was stable but temps went to 77C. Ran torture test and temps went to 80C. Everything stable with Unigine Heaven and Valley.
 
Should I be worried about these temps?  


Yes, That is pushing it as far as temps. You need an all in one water cooling solution and your temps should be under 65C.
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Re: EVGA 790i Ultra FTW BIOS settings 2015/02/03 22:14:09 (permalink)
I personally feel 2000 Mhz DDR3 is useless on this board. DDR3 1600 is more than enough and people shouldn't have to OC the crap out of their FSB just to use 2000 Mhz memory. If anyone is using all 4 memory slots then you wont get too much further than 1850 Mhz. Again its not needed and simply stressing your board.  I find there are FSB holes at 1500-1650 FSB, Anything after than seems fair game. P1 and P2 enabled seems best for stability. Also running Vdroop control helps get your voltages as accurate as possible
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