Howdy EVGA and community members. Want to know if we are going to see a K|NGP|N Classified version MB?

DannyOcean
Howdy EVGA and community members. Want to know if we are going to see a K|NGP|N Classified version MB?

Doubtful, evga isnt exactly famous for their motherboards. The OC socket that asus made is patent so evga cant use it. So there isnt much more we can add to the classified unless EVGA has something revolutionary, but I think they would have released it already or leaked during CES.

ASUS smart patented that OC Socket. Intel didn't tell them nothing because don't want to argue with such manufacturer who literary hold half workstation motherboards and 75% desktop motherboards. But Rampage 5 Extreme every day I like less and less, I was hope we will see 
Rampage 5 Extreme Black Edition but really no reason why they launch that series when buyers start to prepare money for next platform, instead to earlier. 

I dont want to speak for vlada but i think last time he liked the classy because it was mostly black. He also mentions that he wants a asus black edition.

Anyone have a link to Asus's patent.  I doubt they can patent a socket that uses all pins...cause that's not a novel idea.

AnonymousGuy
Anyone have a link to Asus's patent.  I doubt they can patent a socket that uses all pins...cause that's not a novel idea.

Basically connecting two pins is all it does I think, there's instructions on how to do a hack with super fine wire and solder lol

seta8967
http://rog.asus.com/34722...ins-extra-performance/


"One of the key ways ASUS and ROG have boosted overclocking performance for CPU and memory on its X99 motherboards, is by enhancing the CPU socket! X99 motherboards use the LGA2011-3 socket (with 2011 pins), however with its patent-pending OC Socket, ASUS and ROG have added even more pins to provide more performance!"

Its more than 2 pins soldered together they added extra pins.

And yes intel wasnt fond of this idea from what i remember. If people want it, I suggest get it now before intel stop it. Like how nvidia stopped the evga evbot ports.

 
The same "Hack" was done by soldering 2 pins, and the extra pins on the CPU do the same things. http://hwbot.org/news/11337_der8auers_guide_for_haswell_e_4ghz_uncore_for_all_motherboards/ he accomplishes the exact same things as the RVE Socket "promises", with 1 wire and 2 pins to get higher uncore capability.
 
Yes, they added extra pins, and when it was released, there is video of them stating that it should get better overclocking capability.  It has helped raise the uncore overclock for sure, but what else did it do?  for 50cent and a voided warranty on an x99 CPU, you can avoid the extra pins in the socket.  
 
Gigabyte has already replicated the Socket as well http://www.legitreviews.com/gigabyte-ga-x99-soc-force-ln2-motherboard-with-special-lga2011-v3-cpu-socket_150125  EVGA should quickly take note before this all becomes a thing of the past and Intel shuts them down.
 
 

I could not find any information stating that ASUS has received a patent at this point.  Assuming that's correct, it's still in a pattern where ASUS has applied for, but not received a patent.  As noted earlier, it may not be considered a novel concept, and there may be other issues, such as Intel's IP rights to the socket design.  Intel cannot influence the patent process one way or the other at this point, so giving Intel money won't do anything.  It's entirely possible that ASUS may earn the patent, but plenty can go wrong in the meantime.

AnonymousGuy
My opinion is that Intel is probably laughing their asses off at Asus.  Intel publishes platform design specs (I'm a privileged user so I can see all the technical specs for sockets and registers and all that crap that you'd need to design a mobo and bios) and if there was a significant benefit to doing what Asus did, they'd have recommended it.

Could quite possibly be a marketing move on ASUS's part.

NordicJedi
If one wants to be cynical, it may make sense to rush out and attempt to patent something even if you ultimately fail to acquire the patent.  Doing so may force companies to halt R&D or enter the market with a competing product.  ASUS won't earn a dime from this, unless ASUS does actually acquire the patent, and the conduct by other companies is infringing.  If ASUS fails to acquire the patent, then nothing will happen to companies that create similar sockets.  On the other hand, if ASUS tries to freeze the market in this way knowing that the patent will not be awarded, there could be action taken against ASUS by a government agency.

I agree.  Can't stand patent trolls. 
 
Last years patent troll award goes to Asetek the AIO cooler company.  They went after Coolit, Coolermaster and Swiftech (Maybe even Corsair) to name a few because I believe there are more.  Fractal has tried coming out with a triple rad AIO but can't sell it in the states because of the patent troll.  If I recall correctly, the patent was a CPU block with a pump on it so no one can do that to name ONE of them.  The other was a sealed loop I think.  Might as well patent ketchup on french fries before someone else figures it out.    Hope this patent finally gets overturned because there are a lot of companies who want to join on the AIO wagon. Competition is great as it will lower the prices which will make the end user very happy in the end.
 
A Denmark company has every US company in the states on lock down.  I don't understand why they don't lease the patent to everyone for a small fee.  Not sure if there were any attempts of that or they were just asking for too much.
 
Sorry for the off topic rant but patent trolling sets me off about Asetek. lol

gtxjackbauer
 
 
I agree.  Can't stand patent trolls. 
 
Last years patent troll award goes to Asetek the AIO cooler company.  They went after Coolit, Coolermaster and Swiftech (Maybe even Corsair) to name a few because I believe there are more.  Fractal has tried coming out with a triple rad AIO but can't sell it in the states because of the patent troll.  If I recall correctly, the patent was a CPU block with a pump on it so no one can do that to name ONE of them.  The other was a sealed loop I think.  Might as well patent ketchup on french fries before someone else figures it out.    Hope this patent finally gets overturned because there are a lot of companies who want to join on the AIO wagon. Competition is great as it will lower the prices which will make the end user very happy in the end.
 
A Denmark company has every US company in the states on lock down.  I don't understand why they don't lease the patent to everyone for a small fee.  Not sure if there were any attempts of that or they were just asking for too much.
 
Sorry for the off topic rant but patent trolling sets me off about Asetek. lol

Coming from a legal background, I tire more of the major companies fighting each other over patent wars, such as Samsung and Apple.  For smaller companies, like Ultra (modular PSU patent) and Asetek, these patents essentially protect its business.  Frankly, if a person or company invents something, I would expect them to do everything they could to protect their own intellectual property.  It may seem tiresome and arbitrary to a lot of people, but that's the only protection companies have from being swallowed by larger companies.  
 
As you mention, licenses are often granted, usually for a percentage of earnings.  One thing to consider, however, is that a lot of smaller companies do not hire good legal experts to assist with finding ways to work around patents or work well with a patent holder to obtain a license.  After all, no patent holder is obligated to license a patent to another company.  It may make greater sense for them, however, to license the patent to avoid a potential court battle to enforce its patent, as there's always a risk that an approved patent can be deemed unenforceable.  
 
Keep in mind, however, that there may just not be enough product demand for a company to want to risk a conflict over patents.  That would probably be true of AIO's in the past, as we're really only starting to see a greater demand for them now, especially for GPU's.

Lol patent trolls.  Westinghouse trolling over Tesla's motor patent = world record for patent trolling.  Don't think anybody's beating that one any time soon, not even Asus