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PETITION: https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-refund-for-gtx-970"I would advise everyone to complain to the following commissions over world It will definitely be noticed if thousands of people send in complaints." "Dear European Commission,
Dear Federal Trade Commission,
We address you by means of this writing to ask for your help.
About four months ago, Nvidia proudly presented their new innovations in graphical processing: the GTX 970 and GTX 980 GPU. Until today, both cards are officially specified as having the exact same memory composition and bandwidth.
Recently however, Nvidia was forced to step forward and explain to users why they have been seeing odd behaviour of the GTX 970. In this press release, Nvidia admitted that the memory composition of the GTX 970 vastly differs from what they initially announced, leading to limitations that could not be foreseen by the people who bought these cards. After this reveal, a storm of consumer protest arose, which, to this day, Nvidia has chosen to ignore.
Nvidia purposely omitted essential information from their consumers. Information which would not have been revealed if not for users noting unexpected behaviour of the hardware. Now, in the days following the revelation, Nvidia still keeps insisting that this was not misleading omission and continue to refuse consumers their lawful right for a refund.
Allowing Nvidia to continue to treat their consumers this way would open the way for other global businesses to treat their consumers dishonestly and hide vital information. By accepting the current state of this situation, you accept company dishonesty in the future. This would open a gate for more companies hiding vital information regarding their products and falsely advertising said products.
You have issued laws protecting consumers and other businesses against unfair competition, misleading advertising and misleading omission. We ask you now to enforce those laws. We ask you to send out a strong signal towards both businesses and residents that this behaviour will not be tolerated, not now and not in the future."United States : Federal Trade Commssion ; Big name law firm currently investigating Nvidia over GTX 970 http://bursor.com/investigations/nvidia/Europe : European CommissionAustralia : ACCCItaly: AGCM CODACONS CLASS ACTION STARTED: https://www.change.org/p/...e&utm_medium=email
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 06:30:52
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ziomuschio
follow this post on nvidia forum ....
Um... Cool story, bro?
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 06:34:04
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ziomuschio
follow this post on nvidia forum ....
Um... Cool story, bro?
LOL. I will follow the press releases. They will have less opinions of uniformed people than an nvidia thread. I am interested to see what occurs though.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 06:45:32
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Good luck with that.
Their asking for a free upgrade to a 980, full refund or a $100 credit. Nvidia will be doing none of those things.
While its a bit messed up what they did and throwing it on PR messing up.
Nvidia unfortunately enjoys milking the consumer and producing crap drivers but without any real competition from AMD..it won't be changing anytime soon.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 06:54:09
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The point is that the memory is indeed accessible and that hopefully more info is forthcoming from NVIDIA.
I don't support such an action myself personally.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 06:57:06
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No, pushing a suit is honestly foolish.
The video showing that there is only 3.5gb of available Ram actually shows the beginning of it access 4 GB initially and then scale back, which is what nvidia is saying would happen. I don't think it is correct that it wasn't advertised appropriately, but there isn't anything good coming out of this lawsuit.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 07:06:14
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No, pushing a suit is honestly foolish.
The video showing that there is only 3.5gb of available Ram actually shows the beginning of it access 4 GB initially and then scale back, which is what nvidia is saying would happen. I don't think it is correct that it wasn't advertised appropriately, but there isn't anything good coming out of this lawsuit.
Exactly. I think its shameful they waited this long to disclose the problem but I don't see a class action lawsuit going anywhere..but who knows some lawyer out there might be looking for a shot in the dark pay day.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 07:24:50
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lol This just made my day... who in the world gets SO UPSET over something SO silly. The 970 is an amazing card. Who cares if the memory is divided into two caches? They both work don't they? *facepalm*
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 07:47:23
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 *eyeroll* I don't get what they are suing over, I guess it's because I don't have my law degree from the University of Keyboard Warriors. The card has 4GB of memory, as advertised, 500MB of that 4GB is used to cache less frequently accessed items so that the lower bandwidth doesn't become an issue. Who cares?
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 07:49:11
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lol This just made my day... who in the world gets SO UPSET over something SO silly. The 970 is an amazing card. Who cares if the memory is divided into two caches? They both work don't they? *facepalm*
But, but but superduperoverclocker32.exe reports only 3.5 GB VRAM available! Conspiracy! Scandal! Lawsuit!
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 08:39:01
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nvidia has Admitted That the specifications of the 970 are not ones for which WE Paid...we have bought videocard with false spec ... sign the petion here please for misleading advertising https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/806853/geforce-900-series/class-action-970-owners-/1/
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 08:41:41
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ziomuschio
follow this post on nvidia forum ....
Um... Cool story, bro?
soz i write the link but it disappear
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 15:37:03
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https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-refund-for-gtx-970/u/9438446?tk=wmf_azvVCeQ-ptC81KOgM5pjtpRyhsJxW82xXE5GQck&utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=email gamespot and pcworld acknowledge about this petition in their posts
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 15:50:02
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On court they can get full refund, but court with NVIDIA...
But depend if someone among customers have good connections,
false advertising is obvious if fix is not possible and 4GB is not operational and specification didn't inform people it's not possible ...
Some people even talk that G-Sync is false and with some driver mode can work similar as Free Sync, I can't judge maybe is true, maybe not.
And I will not try that driver for sure.
Upgrade on GTX980 would be justice. But only for people who bought example before this become known to public. Not someone buy tomorrow and ask GTX980.
And it's not fair to brands pay that, they could offer upgrade but NVIDIA should cover.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 17:05:13
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If people don't push back hard now, Nvidia is going to be doing this with all their cards and pretty soon they'll be moving to a gig... I support legal action, they misled the consumer. I also believe there should be one for the cracked edges on the Shield tablet. They've lost a class action over bumpgate for selling crappy mobile processors. However, they did weasel out of the result... They provided plaintiffs with a 500 dollar laptop, when a lot of them had over 1000 dollar laptops...
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 20:45:17
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This is only one of probably many similar situation, maybe not so huge, maybe even bigger, but usually everything finish as Not possible to replicate problem or
Some card work good. And now many people from unknown reason are on NVIDIA side, but they would be on their side even if only 1024 MB work...
That's always like that. But NVIDIA is not only company, only now someone decide to check what really happen and to explain easy and NVIDIA after that start to talk with people. Before that even month they ignore. Maybe is such reaction of people to push things to the end effect of constant overpricing hardware from NVIDIA side and worse and worse drivers where people obviously need to pay more only because no competition. Everything have own limit, and metal when you bend he will crack in one point and you will not be able to fix that.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 22:34:11
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TechPowerUp: NVIDIA plans to release a fix for the GeForce GTX 970 memory allocation issue. In an informal statement to users of the GeForce Forums, an NVIDIA employee said that the company is working on a driver update that "will tune what's allocated where in memory to further improve performance." The employee also stressed that the GTX 970 is still the best performing graphics card at its price-point, and if current owners are not satisfied with their purchase, they should return it for a refund or exchange. 
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 22:40:20
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ziomuschio
nvidia has Admitted That the specifications of the 970 are not ones for which WE Paid...we have bought videocard with false spec ... sign the petion here please for misleading advertising
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/806853/geforce-900-series/class-action-970-owners-/1/
The GPU performs exactly the same as it did when it was released. It is still the same GPU that was and is widely praised as being an excellent performing GPU at a good price point. The mistake on the specs doesn't change any of that.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 22:45:20
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If people don't push back hard now, Nvidia is going to be doing this with all their cards and pretty soon they'll be moving to a gig... I support legal action, they misled the consumer. I also believe there should be one for the cracked edges on the Shield tablet. They've lost a class action over bumpgate for selling crappy mobile processors. However, they did weasel out of the result... They provided plaintiffs with a 500 dollar laptop, when a lot of them had over 1000 dollar laptops...
Oh stop. This petition has nothing to do with the design of the card. It's butt hurt outrage that Nvidia put out the wrong specs. Fine, it was a mistake and i don't have an issue with Nvidia making some sort of reasonable restitution. Memory segmentation was done with an even less effective method on the GTX 660Ti. The other design option would have been to completely disable the section resulting in an even slower GPU with 3GB.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 22:47:34
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If people don't push back hard now, Nvidia is going to be doing this with all their cards and pretty soon they'll be moving to a gig... I support legal action, they misled the consumer. I also believe there should be one for the cracked edges on the Shield tablet. They've lost a class action over bumpgate for selling crappy mobile processors. However, they did weasel out of the result... They provided plaintiffs with a 500 dollar laptop, when a lot of them had over 1000 dollar laptops...
Oh stop. This petition has nothing to do with the design of the card. It's butt hurt outrage that Nvidia put out the wrong specs. Fine, it was a mistake and i don't have an issue with Nvidia making some sort of reasonable restitution. Memory segmentation was done with an even less effective method on the GTX 660Ti.
The other design option would have been to completely disable the section resulting in an even slower GPU with 3GB.
Correction! They SOLD it under the false specs. That is a HUGE difference.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 23:01:30
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lmao at the petitioners, good luck trying. the only ones who would really benefit from it are those greedy good for nothin lawyers.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 23:02:32
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lmao at the petitioners, good luck trying. the only ones who would really benefit from it are those greedy good for nothin lawyers.
Yeah, I guess you never looked up bumpgate? Hey, let's make a popular not very accurate reply... Yeah, I'll join in and say all lawyers are GREEDY!
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/27 23:31:25
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This is why I'm sick of PC gaming. I hate signing petitions... for console ports... and now for this GPU I purchased!
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/28 00:34:11
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wow...nvidia delete my post ...wow
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/28 03:39:21
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This is why I'm sick of PC gaming. I hate signing petitions... for console ports... and now for this GPU I purchased!
You're perfectly welcome to go get a PS4 and enjoy quality 4 hour games at $60 plus sales tax at 720p 30fps.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/28 04:14:25
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Can someone explain whatbis the lawsuit concerning? Im upset as anyone but... the advertised 4gb of gddr5, you received 4gb of gddr5. Sure .5 gddrm5 was crappy but its still functional and within original specs and standards.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/28 04:21:13
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Good luck with that.
Their asking for a free upgrade to a 980, full refund or a $100 credit. Nvidia will be doing none of those things.
I'd rather get my 970 replace with one thst has all it ram on 1 partition and 2MB L2 like we were lead to believe it had
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/28 04:28:57
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I love how NOBODY complained about the cards performance (save coil whine) until they saw the issue with the specification mix up then instantly jumped on the bandwagon.
stupid petition is stupid. They've already stated if you want a refund they'd try to help with that. Justice isn't a company providing you a monetary benefit or an upgraded card that costs $200 more. Sorry folks that's not how things work.
I'm vocal about nvidia dropping the ball about many things, specifically their crap drivers as of late but this petition is just over reacting and overreaching on every level.
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/28 12:54:28
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Stephenk291
Good luck with that.
Their asking for a free upgrade to a 980, full refund or a $100 credit. Nvidia will be doing none of those things.
I'd rather get my 970 replace with one thst has all it ram on 1 partition and 2MB L2 like we were lead to believe it had
Can you show me an official advertisment stating 2MB L2?
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Re: class action against nvidia for the 970 owners
2015/01/28 12:58:45
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This would be a waste of time. It is like "I am going to bring a lawsuit against Seagate because my 1TB drive only gives me 975GB, not 1TB"
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