I just watched this and I think he has some fantastic points. The best point he said is that gaming truly is an EXPENSIVE hobby that I love. This is a really really hard one for me to figure what side of the fence I am on this. I think no and yes. Like mentioned in the video free games allow those who cant afford games to get in the action. But at the same time for you to get all the good stuff and "win" you have to pay later on. But as he mentions in the video this is too not always the case. For example I like to play the free to play game on my Nexus 6 called Dead Trigger 2. Its a fantastic game and I have not spent a single penny on it ever since and I am having a blast with it. I think how free games allow the game creators to get their revenue is by the adds they place on those free to play games. So in other words either way they get the money.  IMHO I think games now days are toooo expensive. $60 for a video game is a lot. I personally think games should be a tad bit cheaper brand new with a price of around $30-$45 tops. With that said I would feel much better about my purchase if I buy brand new around those prices. I mean if you think about it game developers dont spend as much as you would think in making the game. The majority of the money spent with games now days is in marketing. I am sure many of you could bring examples of that. BUT one game that I can think of that cost a lot to make as well as cost a lot to market is the game Destiny.  But yeah what do you guys think of this? Do you guys agree with him in the video? Also do you agree with what I said about games being to expensive now days?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Brad_Hawthorne
Betteridge's law
 
Anytime someone starts out their rationalization with the phase "let's be honest"....run away screaming like your hair is on fire. It typically means everything they do not preface with that is a lie. It's how the liberal mind works. 

+1
 
I would much rather pay to play then see of bunch of blinking ads.  I have no problem if the game-maker puts out a free version (w/ ads) or a paid version (w/out ads).  I'm sooooo sick of ads on everything I could scream.  You have to watch a 30 second commercial just to watch most videos on the internet these days.  It's annoying. I understand why they do this, but it's super duper out of control!

zildjian75

Brad_Hawthorne
Betteridge's law
 
Anytime someone starts out their rationalization with the phase "let's be honest"....run away screaming like your hair is on fire. It typically means everything they do not preface with that is a lie. It's how the liberal mind works. 

+1
 
I would much rather pay to play then see of bunch of blinking ads.  I have no problem if the game-maker puts out a free version (w/ ads) or a paid version (w/out ads).  I'm sooooo sick of ads on everything I could scream.  You have to watch a 30 second commercial just to watch most videos on the internet these days.  It's annoying. I understand why they do this, but it's super duper out of control!

Use AdBlock to get rid of annoying ads on youtube videos. You can use AdBlock to block images you don't like on forums or webpages too.
 
 

Given that I'm not anywhere close to liberal leaning, I'm thinking you're reading too much into that... but were getting too far off track at this point IMO.

free no, but shareware would be awesome to see again

Hmm what do you guys think about just paying for games as is but having the DLC for free? Most the DLC I bought for some games was a waste. Especially the $20 packs for 2 more hours of gameplay.

My question...

If everything went free what incentives would there be to develop better games and innovate?

BF3PRO
My question...

If everything went free what incentives would there be to develop better games and innovate?

Exactly!  I actually hate the term "free". It does not exist.  There is no such thing as free. EVERYTHING has a cost. The sooner folks figure that out, the better off we will all be.

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

blacksapphire08
Short answer NO. If developers did decide to make most or all games free to play there would have to be some drastic changes made to the current paradigm. I think there should always be an option to purchase the game for regular price because a lot of free to play games nickel and dime you to death just to get the content and the final price is usually way more than the price of a regular game. Income inequality? Sure but there are Steam sales so that you can pick up multiple titles for the price of one.

HA funny that you said that. I just recently watched another one of his videos. So what do you think about his video if Steam Sales and bundles bad for gaming? I like how explains that these sales cause people to make impulsive buys. Its really fascinating with the science in marketing. For example people choose less variety when buying in bulk.
 

 

I dont see how it's a bad thing at all. A good deal means people are more likely to give something new a try. It's pretty rare that I ever buy any bundles unless I know it's a series I like or from a favorite developer. I would argue that because of Steam sales i'm more likely to pick up a developer's next time sooner either at launch or the first sale. The Witcher 3 is a good example, picked up the first 2 games on sale so i'm going to buy the third one when it comes out.

blacksapphire08

HAZMAN_THE_GREAT

blacksapphire08
Short answer NO. If developers did decide to make most or all games free to play there would have to be some drastic changes made to the current paradigm. I think there should always be an option to purchase the game for regular price because a lot of free to play games nickel and dime you to death just to get the content and the final price is usually way more than the price of a regular game. Income inequality? Sure but there are Steam sales so that you can pick up multiple titles for the price of one.

HA funny that you said that. I just recently watched another one of his videos. So what do you think about his video if Steam Sales and bundles bad for gaming? I like how explains that these sales cause people to make impulsive buys. Its really fascinating with the science in marketing. For example people choose less variety when buying in bulk.
 

 

I dont see how it's a bad thing at all. A good deal means people are more likely to give something new a try. It's pretty rare that I ever buy any bundles unless I know it's a series I like or from a favorite developer. I would argue that because of Steam sales i'm more likely to pick up a developer's next time sooner either at launch or the first sale. The Witcher 3 is a good example, picked up the first 2 games on sale so i'm going to buy the third one when it comes out.

lets see bundles I bought, GTA, Star Wars, Valve, ID

Nitemare3219
I don't mind paying $60 for a game... I purchase maybe 3-4 games a year at full price, tops. What I am coming to HATE is day 1 DLC purchases whether released yet or not... why the hell should I pay $80 for a game to include content you could have included in the first place? Expansion packs at $15-$20 back in the day were worth it and decent... a lot of extra content, practically a new game! Nowadays it's JUNK.

I can't stand DLC for the most part, which usually ends up being some poorly put together mini-mission or pointless maps, weapons, outfits, etc.  I don't understand the season pass concept either.  Paying $20 for about $25 worth of DLC that isn't going to be released for a few months, and you have no clue whether you are going to like it or not.
 
I'm not saying all DLC is bad because I think it works out well for games like Skyrim or Fallout, where it acts as a continuation of your current game.

Pricing models for games should be whatever the publisher/developer determines should be the pricing model. There are plenty of games using F2P models and plenty that use the traditional model. The best games to look at successful and unsuccessful payment models are MMO's. Plenty of examples there that show when these work and when they don't work.

Bottom line is that the market should inform developers and publishers the best payment model for games.

seth89
I think games should start at $100.00, this would easily weed out people who shouldn't be playing in the first place.
 
Think about it, if Halo was $100.00 before map packs there wouldn't be as many 12 year old kids dropping the N word and "acting all crazy".
 

O heck no!! Your crazy! If games hit that high I am done with gaming. Plus higher prices wont rid out those 12 year old kids. I am sure they will find ways to get the game regardless like from their rich parents or saving their allowances.

I am with brad on this +1 think about it do you really want micro transactions to rule every aspect of the game for you.... bad bad idea, the guy in the video is a moron...