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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/14 21:40:08 (permalink)
Nice results!  I am averaging about the same scores as you give or take a few.  I have my cards at a stable +250 GPU Clock Offset and +340 Mem Clock Offset.
 
 
 
My Firestrike is at 21534
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3761401
 
My firestrike Ultra is at 6922
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3691097
 
Tomb Raider at 1080p with everything maxed out:
Average 94
Max: 164
Avg: 131.6
 
I am also pretty happy that I stepped up to the 980's coming from the 780 Ti's SC.  Seems like everything runs smoother.
 

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/15 04:21:04 (permalink)
AWSOME scores!!!!!!  I was going to step up also but I am glad I didn't cause I won the silicon lottery!!  I got some help on another forum and just reached a stable overclock on my 780ti classifieds in SLI of 1390MHZ. That's right , you heard it, 1390MHZ and max temps are 83 Celsius(only on top card and only in stress testing) bottom card is always under 71 cecluis.  Stress tested with unigene valley(5701 Score)  and metro last light and 2033 redux  in gameplay never goes below 100fps EVER!!!!! for hours and hours of gameplay even in battle scenes at ULTRA with an ROG swift 2540 x 1440p with max tesleation and 2xmsaa...I had the cards over 1490 mhz but heat becomes an issuue quickly at 1.218vv 115% power target and PEXVDD voltage 1.242v. and I am sure I would have to pump more voltage in to get it 100% stable... but I am limited by the LN2 bios and cooling>>>
 
If I had custom water cooling and a custom bios , I know I could hit 1500mhz... I guess  I got lucky...
 
I would love to see some  comparisons of 2 780ti classifieds in SLI at 1390mhz. I have searched and found nothing to compare my overclocked cards to similarly overclocked 980's....
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/15 05:15:07 (permalink)
UNIGINE valley benchmark@ 1390MHZ 780TI IN SLI
 
FPS:       136.6
SCORE:   5701
MIN :      41.8
MAX  :     199.8
 
ULTRA PRESET
1920 X 1080 REESOLUTION
 

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/15 13:36:56 (permalink)
My Unigine Valley benchmark:
EVGA 980 ACX 2.0 in SLI
FPS: 141.5
Score: 5921
Min: 46.4
Max: 229.7
Core Clock 1451
Memory Clock 1943
 
Ultra Preset @ 1080
 
 
My cards were sitting at an average of 70c give or take a few but I have a decent airflow setup in my computer. 

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/15 13:45:01 (permalink)
i would because 3gb is going to fall flat on it's face soon the 900 series have better features and the 980 beats the 780 ti in most games.

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/15 15:28:44 (permalink)
Nice... thank you for sharing those results you got me beat by like 200 points and a few FPS.

Gotta love it... playing games with these frame rates is awesome. Cant wait to see new video cards and 4k come into play.....
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/15 16:05:38 (permalink)
I almost stuck with my 780 Ti's but I figured, what the hell, an extra gig of VRAM and a much quieter setup

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/15 16:23:59 (permalink)
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I almost stuck with my 780 Ti's but I figured, what the hell, an extra gig of VRAM and a much quieter setup




you never know what other game is going to come and swallow vram next I mean ac unity vram is nearly maxed out on the 780 ti looking at videos. There was people complaining about ryse having the textures setting locked at ultra because he couldn't run the game max with his 780 ti due to the lack of vram.
 
I think 4gb is okay for now but I reckon the 8gb is the safe spot. I was going to step up for a 970/980 but it feels like it's a step backwards since I have 6gb 780 not performance wise but vram. kinda on edge incase another dev decides to make a rubbish port for it to swallow the vram. Cod aw and shadow of mordor nearly max out 6gbs where as far cry 4 and ac unity only use around 2.4/3gb so all these games vairy whether some of them make use of the ect vram I don't know but it looks like it imo.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 04:02:35 (permalink)
 Assuming those Valley scores are with AA and sound off?
Certainly hope so! Couldn't pull a score close to those until I disabled both.
FPS: 140.4
Score: 5875
Min FPS: 33.1
Max FPS: 242.8

Played with the OC settings for a bit too. Can't seem to get much more stable than PT@24% (max), core +230, mem +400. Tried +250 on the core, but they start dropping out. Tried to compensate with a little added voltage, but that only seemed to make it drop more frequently. So +230/+400 it is.

And yeah, devs (*cough*Ubisoft*cough*) have gotten lazy and just relying on vram. Heck with people who were just fine 6 months ago with whatever... Nope, upgrade to something new, or go play on a console. I was running dual 1gb GTX 460 SC EE cards (and slightly overclocked) up until early September. At worst I had to drop my AA settings down from MSAA to FXAA or OFF depending on the game. Tomb Raider I still managed TressFX by dropping the res down to 1280x720 (which is awful and blurry on my monitor), otherwise I could run it on Ultra no problem without TressFX. Usually the losses were barely noticeable and acceptable.

After I put this computer together and put the 460s back in my other computer, for giggles I tried running Watch Dogs, Shadow of Mordor, and ACU on it... ROFL. For the first time ever I saw my i7 930 w/ dual GTX 460s get brought to its knees like it was some 10 year old ancient junker. But what threw me off was how hard they were on my new 780 Ti Classifieds. Like, WHOA! I just spent days reading about recent video cards to figure out what the best thing I could get was. And here's two of them getting hammered, not even able to max out at 1920x1080. How were people playing at higher res? How could anyone say one of these is overkill for 1920x1080 gaming?!? Overkill at medium or high settings with AA disabled, sure.

What I'm afraid of is... In a year the GTX 980s will be where my GTX 460s were in September. If this nonsense escalates, we'll all need (HUGE PANIC BUTTON ALERT!) 256gb of VRAM by the end of the decade as a minimum requirement... (to run any game released by Ubisoft.) >.>

TL:DR - THE 780 TI CLASSIFIEDS I HAD CAN GO DIE IN A FIRE!  

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 07:49:47 (permalink)
No, Unigine Valley was set to Extreme HD with 8xAA.  My CPU is also overclocked to 4.8 GHz on my 4790k
 
 
As for Ubisoft.......well I play a lot of FC4.  I am now running stock settings with my CPU and GPU just to make it stable for an hour or two.  Crashing has got so bad with the game that I am forced to run it on Medium to Ultra instead of Custom with all settings on Max (NVidia settings) just to play certain parts of the game so it does not crash.  This is the only game I have this problem with; however, all the other games I have no issues even with my overclock settings. 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 12:48:06 (permalink)
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i would because 3gb is going to fall flat on it's face soon the 900 series have better features and the 980 beats the 780 ti in most games.



Yes, everything is true but difference between EVGA models are biggest on market, I mean relation between GTX780Ti reference and GTX980 is completely something else than GTX780Ti fabric overclocked for 150-190MHz (Classified) vs GTX980...
Such OC eat whole difference and than only cross on model overclocked same...
GK110 have more CUDA but Maxwell is newest architecture.
Anyway all of us will think on upgrade when Big Maxwell show up and than it's much better GTX980 for selling than GTX780Ti. 
 

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 14:01:51 (permalink)
Quite difference then. 
With AA enabled...


FPS: 125.8
Score: 5266
Min FPS: 32.5
Max FPS: 227.4


Edit: Pulled a better score than my original post, although still quite a difference. My avg fps is always good until near the end of scene 9, and then it just dives off a cliff into the abyss... About 20fps, and it never really recovers.
post edited by Zapix - 2015/01/16 16:00:55

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 18:50:02 (permalink)
Zapix, here are my scores with no overclock to my gpu
FPS 124.5
Score 5210
Min fps 44.3
Max fps 226.4

With my stable max gpu overclock, I get those scores I stated in an earlier post. Power target and gpu temp at max, GPU clock offset at +250, Mem Clock Offset +340, Overvoltage +50mV
 
My Unigine Valley benchmark:
EVGA 980 ACX 2.0 in SLI
FPS: 141.5
Score: 5921
Min: 46.4
Max: 229.7
Core Clock 1451
Memory Clock 1943
 
 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 19:12:11 (permalink)
Should I jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? For gaming no, for benching yes.
 

 

 
http://www.guru3d.com/art..._980_sli_review,1.html
 
 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 19:49:55 (permalink)
Yeah, I ran a base clock score yesterday just to see if my OC was causing a problem. My score for the base clock was something around 4600 or 4700. Most of my scores with the OC were 4800ish. Disabling sound helped the score by about 10 to 20fps. 
It starts off a solid 135~145fps average from start through 75% of scene 9. Then it drops down to 120 pretty rapidly between 10 and 13. In the last 2 or 3 scenes it picks up a few fps before ending. According to MSI Afterburner, there's no drops in the mem or core speeds, but gpu usage has a couple of drop spikes to around 50~60%, about 1/2 way through the test.

Here's a base score. 
FPS: 109.1
Score: 4564
Min FPS: 29.9
Max FPS: 204.7

Just makes me wonder why there's such a huge difference. Can't really believe it's the 300mhz more on your 4790K vs the 300mhz less on my 5960X.

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 20:11:58 (permalink)
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Should I jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? For gaming no, for benching yes.


You say NO while posting numbers that show the 980 beats the 780 Ti...
I don't see the logic there.

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 20:19:23 (permalink)
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Should I jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? For gaming no, for benching yes.


You say NO while posting numbers that show the 980 beats the 780 Ti...
I don't see the logic there.


The point is the fps between the two are minimal. Are you going to notice 5-7 fps? No.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 20:34:31 (permalink)
I notice easily that 2 780 Ti Classifieds couldn't run Watch Dogs on ultra at 60FPS, but a single 980 can.
Will I notice 5 to 7fps, if that 5 to 7 fps causes stutter? Absolutely. Does 7 fps make a difference between playing at game at 24fps and 17fps... YEAH. Does it make a difference when talking about 100 vs 107, no, you partially win the argument there. If you're satisfied playing games on medium or high settings, your argument is partially valid there too. I personally play on PC for those ultra settings with full AA, etc. Otherwise, I'd be just as happy playing on my XB1 or PS4.

Where you completely fall flat on your face is...
http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/ is basically completely FREE with the exception of shipping, unless you got your card on sale at some really low price. I paid $1300 for the 2 780 Ti Classifieds. Yes, seems wrong trading them for 2 cards that are $550 each... But... Is it a better card? Yes. Slightly in some cases (Tomb Raider and Metro), superior in others (Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed Unity). But the upgrade is FREE. The 980 uses less watts, runs cooler, has 1gb more of VRAM. If it's free, why say NO?
If the question was "I own a 780 Ti, should I buy a 980?" then yeah. NO makes sense. Not when it's free though. I jumped the gun after seeing benchmark scores were only a little higher and a quite a bit of skepticism. Especially with people like yourself saying "Don't do it!" I'm glad I didn't listen to people saying not to, and decided that even at a few fps higher it was worth paying shipping. Because technology changes rapidly, and even if it only future-proofs me for 6 months to a year longer, it's still longer than I had.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 20:40:31 (permalink)
Lol, 17 fps vs 24 fps... like that's even playable. 
 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 20:46:47 (permalink)
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Lol, 17 fps vs 24 fps... like that's even playable. 
 
Why say no? A dollar saved is a dollar earned. 


$20 total per card in shipping. $10 to send, $10 to receive... That's the cost of 2 movie tickets, or 2 meals at McDonalds. $20 that will save you from upgrading a video card by at least a year is my guess. Uses less electricity in the meantime. Will it make up $20 in years you use it? Who knows. Depends on how often you use it. It won't be instant, but not everything is about instant gratification. As you say, a dollar saved is a dollar earned.

edit note: btw, thanks for indulging me with your reasoning, even if I don't agree :)


and not playable?!? Haha, I agree I've been spoiled the last few years by 60fps, but I have a 10+ year old dell (P4 3.8ghz) that I have setup for family when they visit. I stuck a GTX 430 in it, which I know, makes no sense! But it does manage to play Batman Arkham Asylum, Dead Island, and some other stuff it shouldn't even be able to touch with a 10ft pole. Runs them around 21~24fps. I wouldn't want to play on it, but everything installed on it I tested to make sure it was doable, even if the settings were low. Funny though that some games with lower requirements than Batman or Dead Island can't even hope to work. It was kind of entertaining to see it do things it supposedly couldn't. 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/16 20:56:59 (permalink)
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Lol, 17 fps vs 24 fps... like that's even playable. 
 
Why say no? A dollar saved is a dollar earned. 


$20 total per card in shipping. $10 to send, $10 to receive... That's the cost of 2 movie tickets, or 2 meals at McDonalds. $20 that will save you from upgrading a video card by at least a year is my guess. Uses less electricity in the meantime. Will it make up $20 in years you use it? Who knows. Depends on how often you use it. It won't be instant, but not everything is about instant gratification. As you say, a dollar saved is a dollar earned.

edit note: btw, thanks for indulging me with your reasoning, even if I don't agree :)


No problem. Enjoy your new cards. 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/17 01:35:07 (permalink)
Calm down guys.....Everybody has there own opinion. I like my 780ti classifieds cause i am enjoying the overclocking potential. Mine are at 1390mhz on air and my scores are great. Other people have different reasons for stepping up or not. I enjoy the whole processes of overclocking,gaming,compararing, and discussing these things with you guys. WE ALL HAVE AWESOME HARDWARE LETS ENJOY IT......

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/17 06:28:57 (permalink)
Yes everybody have own opinion...
GTX780Ti reference to GTX980 reference have sense if someone want because
7-10fps more in new games on 1920x1080 resolution and 4GB is better and now.
Or GTX780Ti SC to GTX980 SC, GTX780Ti Classified to GTX980 Classified... other option are not so shine...
If you look TPU review of GT780Ti Classified she is above GTX780Ti more than GTX980 reference I think,
they didn't check K|NGP|N version she is few fps even more... and only upgrade from same model have sense but when GM200 show up anyway everybody will upgrade. NVIDIA will prepare huge number of chips probably and for professional and GeForce series.

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/25 07:19:15 (permalink)
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I notice easily that 2 780 Ti Classifieds couldn't run Watch Dogs on ultra at 60FPS, but a single 980 can.
Will I notice 5 to 7fps, if that 5 to 7 fps causes stutter? Absolutely. Does 7 fps make a difference between playing at game at 24fps and 17fps... YEAH. Does it make a difference when talking about 100 vs 107, no, you partially win the argument there. If you're satisfied playing games on medium or high settings, your argument is partially valid there too. I personally play on PC for those ultra settings with full AA, etc. Otherwise, I'd be just as happy playing on my XB1 or PS4.

Where you completely fall flat on your face is...
http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/ is basically completely FREE with the exception of shipping, unless you got your card on sale at some really low price. I paid $1300 for the 2 780 Ti Classifieds. Yes, seems wrong trading them for 2 cards that are $550 each... But... Is it a better card? Yes. Slightly in some cases (Tomb Raider and Metro), superior in others (Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed Unity). But the upgrade is FREE. The 980 uses less watts, runs cooler, has 1gb more of VRAM. If it's free, why say NO?
If the question was "I own a 780 Ti, should I buy a 980?" then yeah. NO makes sense. Not when it's free though. I jumped the gun after seeing benchmark scores were only a little higher and a quite a bit of skepticism. Especially with people like yourself saying "Don't do it!" I'm glad I didn't listen to people saying not to, and decided that even at a few fps higher it was worth paying shipping. Because technology changes rapidly, and even if it only future-proofs me for 6 months to a year longer, it's still longer than I had.


I have no problem playing Watch Dogs with my two 780 Ti Classifieds on ultra settings at 2560X1600 on my Dell U3011. Using FRAPS I was hovering in the 90's for FPS and dipping down into the 60's while in playing in an action scene. Completely playable on my rig.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/25 07:24:27 (permalink)
At least for me going with another 780 Ti Classified was the way to go. I already had one 780 Ti Classified that I purchased this time last year. Then Newegg was selling a 780 Ti Classified Kingpin $599 with a free game and $30 rebate and I purchased it several weeks ago. Gaming at 2560 X 1600 on my Dell U3011 my system benefited with the addition of the second 780 Ti Classified. My vote is for adding another 780 Ti.
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/25 08:37:13 (permalink)
Though this is well past the oringinal posters need to make his decision within 20 day; thought it might help others.
 
980 Classified ACX 2.0, uses a Max of 165 watts, is DirectX 12 compliant (Any games even exist that are D-X 12?)  [When there are D-X 12 games this will seem like old technology; IMO!]
 
780Ti can use a whopping 450 watts (more power) and are only DX 11; not sure if that limits any current games.  Also not sure if you will ever see 450 watts used; depends on your setup.
 
However the type of 4K monitor or 4K TV setup you want to use - AH there the difference becomes VAST! 
Most but not all 4K TVs only work with a PC input on the HDMI port.  As of the ongoing search in this post http://forums.evga.com/780ti-sc-SLI-How-to-get-UHD-60Hz-please-Apparently-DP12-to-HDMI-20-but-how-pls-m2272354.aspx DisplayPort to HDMI cable solution has eluded being discovered and captured.  So "4k" on a TV or Monitor that does not have DisplayPort is still in search of a solution.
 
980s can do "4K" (3480X2160 @60Hz) through the HDMI port and the DisplayPort 
780s can only do "4K through the one DisplayPort
 
Point being made the number of displays being used and their resolution is an important difference.
 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/25 11:26:34 (permalink)
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Though this is well past the oringinal posters need to make his decision within 20 day; thought it might help others.
 
980 Classified ACX 2.0, uses a Max of 165 watts, is DirectX 12 compliant (Any games even exist that are D-X 12?)  [When there are D-X 12 games this will seem like old technology; IMO!]
 
780Ti can use a whopping 450 watts (more power) and are only DX 11; not sure if that limits any current games.  Also not sure if you will ever see 450 watts used; depends on your setup.
 
However the type of 4K monitor or 4K TV setup you want to use - AH there the difference becomes VAST! 
 
Most but not all 4K TVs only work with a PC input on the HDMI port.  As of the ongoing search in this post (http://forums.evga.com/780ti-sc-SLI-How-to-get-UHD-60Hz-please-Apparently-DP12-to-HDMI-20-but-how-pls-m2272354.aspx ) DisplayPort to HDMI cable solution has eluded being discovered and captured.  So "4k" on a TV or Monitor that does not have DisplayPort is still in search of a solution.
 
980s can do "4K" (3480X2160 @60Hz) through the HDMI port and the DisplayPort 
780s can only do "4K through the one DisplayPort
 
Point being made the number of displays being used and their resolution is an important difference.
 
So as always, your "NEEDS" may dictate the solution you choose; but your "WANTS" well just remember to leave enough $$ in your wallet to be able to eat enough that you have the energy to game and your family does not have to go without.
 
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Show me proof that the 780 Ti will NOT support DX 12. 
 
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/730945/directx-12-on-780ti/?offset=13
 
"NVIDIA will partially support the DX12 API on all the DX11-class GPUs it has shipped; these belong to the Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell architectural families."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series
 

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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/25 12:21:46 (permalink)
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Though this is well past the oringinal posters need to make his decision within 20 day; thought it might help others.
 
980 Classified ACX 2.0, uses a Max of 165 watts, is DirectX 12 compliant (Any games even exist that are D-X 12?)  [When there are D-X 12 games this will seem like old technology; IMO!]
 
780Ti can use a whopping 450 watts (more power) and are only DX 11; not sure if that limits any current games.  Also not sure if you will ever see 450 watts used; depends on your setup.
 
However the type of 4K monitor or 4K TV setup you want to use - AH there the difference becomes VAST! 
 
Most but not all 4K TVs only work with a PC input on the HDMI port.  As of the ongoing search in this post (http://forums.evga.com/780ti-sc-SLI-How-to-get-UHD-60Hz-please-Apparently-DP12-to-HDMI-20-but-how-pls-m2272354.aspx ) DisplayPort to HDMI cable solution has eluded being discovered and captured.  So "4k" on a TV or Monitor that does not have DisplayPort is still in search of a solution.
 
980s can do "4K" (3480X2160 @60Hz) through the HDMI port and the DisplayPort 
780s can only do "4K through the one DisplayPort
 
Point being made the number of displays being used and their resolution is an important difference.
 
So as always, your "NEEDS" may dictate the solution you choose; but your "WANTS" well just remember to leave enough $$ in your wallet to be able to eat enough that you have the energy to game and your family does not have to go without.
 
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Show me proof that the 780 Ti will NOT support DX 12. 
 
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/730945/directx-12-on-780ti/?offset=13
 
"NVIDIA will partially support the DX12 API on all the DX11-class GPUs it has shipped; these belong to the Fermi, Kepler and Maxwell architectural families."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_700_series
 


OK, seems I am able to check off the goal: upset someone today! (no not really; but, you do seem kind of cranked-up in your response)
 
 
I gathered my (reckless) information about (780Ti and DX12) from no other than; a QUOTE from EVGA's specification sheet!
http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/03G-P4-3888.pdf
 
I was trying to help fellow members by highlighting the differences as given by the manufacture's own specifications.  If the potential of the hardware has actually grown to exceed the original manufacturer's original claims; then so be it.
 
The bigger point in my original post about DX 11 or 12:
I am not aware of any game that is unplayable solely because the video card does not support those standards. 
Further if it takes 12 to 24 months for a new game to be launched that will ONLY work with DX12 or above; would you be likely to be using your current enthusiast card? 
 
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/01/25 15:58:45 (permalink)
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Re: Should i jump the gun and step up to a 980 from a 780 Ti? 2015/02/01 21:18:45 (permalink)
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OK, seems I am able to check off the goal: upset someone today! (no not really; but, you do seem kind of cranked-up in your response)
 
 
I gathered my (reckless) information about (780Ti and DX12) from no other than; a QUOTE from EVGA's specification sheet!
http://www.evga.com/products/pdf/03G-P4-3888.pdf
 
I was trying to help fellow members by highlighting the differences as given by the manufacture's own specifications.  If the potential of the hardware has actually grown to exceed the original manufacturer's original claims; then so be it.
 
The bigger point in my original post about DX 11 or 12:
I am not aware of any game that is unplayable solely because the video card does not support those standards. 
Further if it takes 12 to 24 months for a new game to be launched that will ONLY work with DX12 or above; would you be likely to be using your current enthusiast card? 
 



I can't seem to find the line where it says DX12 is not supported.

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