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why in amazon the GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5 (3990-KR) have price $ 2,999.99 and on your website is $ 1499.99 and finally in your site official there are no shop buton on the graphics card
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/13 06:16:28
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because they are/ were an extremely limited amount made - other sites jack the prices up accordingly because it is nearly impossible to find them ...........
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/13 06:53:51
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That was also the initial price, so people think they can still get that.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/13 09:16:42
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If you think that's bad pricing.......look at 980 gtx Classifieds USED going for $1300- $1400 (or trying to get that price) for a GPU although still in production (I think LOL)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/14 07:28:11
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yeah yeah yeah it's a graphic card not a lamborghini car try to lower the price
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/17 20:58:39
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yeah yeah yeah it's a graphic card not a lamborghini car try to lower the price
Tell that to Amazon? Or why not get two Titan Black cards for better performance if you can't find the Titan Z at a more reasonable price? At least the base price was lowered from it's initially ridiculously high and unwarranted 3,000 USD. (With some effort, I can now at least discuss the Titan Z without inner fits of rage.  Seriously, it was a tree trunk sized thorn in the side of a severely tech savvy mind with OCD tendencies.)
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/21 11:52:05
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sad part is there are people out there willing to pay that price 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/21 15:41:06
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On topic: nVidia recently lowered the MSRP, but not all retailers follow suit simply due to demand. Those that can afford it aren't barely making ends meet with a higher income.  BTW, while in gaming R9-295x2 is faster than Titan-Z by 30%, in dual-precision compute, Titan-Z is faster by 60% and uses 30% less power. Depends on your tolerances and expectations. Off-topic: You guys crack me up. Whenever this type of topic comes up, someone doesn't hesitate to criticize the price of things they can't get and even imply those interested are somehow less knowledgable. Yet these same thin-skinned folks will get defensive if someone with less money criticizes their budget as if they spent too much just because the other guy doesn't see a point for spending so much. Sound familiar? Talk about an utter loss of perspective.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/22 16:11:45
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On topic: nVidia recently lowered the MSRP, but not all retailers follow suit simply due to demand. Those that can afford it aren't barely making ends meet with a higher income.
BTW, while in gaming R9-295x2 is faster than Titan-Z by 30%, in dual-precision compute, Titan-Z is faster by 60% and uses 30% less power. Depends on your tolerances and expectations.
Off-topic: You guys crack me up. Whenever this type of topic comes up, someone doesn't hesitate to criticize the price of things they can't get and even imply those interested are somehow less knowledgable. Yet these same thin-skinned folks will get defensive if someone with less money criticizes their budget as if they spent too much just because the other guy doesn't see a point for spending so much. Sound familiar? Talk about an utter loss of perspective.
+1 Also NVidia lowered the MSRP so companies can try to hurry up and dump them before they are so low on price they cannot get rid of them and still turn around a profit, a lot more got made than got purchased.... It just amazes me, people wanting the Titan because its the most expensive card.... yes its faster than a GTX 780 TI vs a GTX Titan.... But not worth the 300-400 more. The Titan was originally aimed at people like me that work/play on their desktops and refuse to get a quadro... Nvidia just saw extra cash cows with 4k+ gamers, one smaller market but bigger than mine, and those with more money than sense or the misinformed buyer.... I am glad I waited, got a GTX Titan Signature later for under 500... finally a card that actually does play everything at 1080p is smooth as butter, and I can model without nerd raging from maya crashing I put up with those crashes for a good three or so years... waiting for a card that had the logical processing cores in them again, but the speed of a gaming card... at the price range that was the same or lower than my GTX 480. Anything else I could rant on about Lephron has already hit base on...
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/23 01:01:21
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Only Titan Black is faster than GTX780Ti, not normal Titan.
Titan is far behing GTX780Ti. It's not because it's most expensive.
I would like to buy Titan Black Superclocked or Signature because that's unique cards same as Classy and enough video memory.
Nobody had Titan Black overclocked and warranty on that.
That's only one more prove who is best NVIDIA. EVGA only OC Titan, Titan Black, Titan Z and launch ACX Cooler.
No one didn't had b**** to OC 1000$ and 3000$ cards and give warranty on that, special on installation aftermarket ACX cooler.
But it's very expansive
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/23 21:47:47
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Only Titan Black is faster than GTX780Ti, not normal Titan.
Titan is far behing GTX780Ti. It's not because it's most expensive.
I would like to buy Titan Black Superclocked or Signature because that's unique cards same as Classy and enough video memory.
Nobody had Titan Black overclocked and warranty on that.
That's only one more prove who is best NVIDIA. EVGA only OC Titan, Titan Black, Titan Z and launch ACX Cooler.
No one didn't had b**** to OC 1000$ and 3000$ cards and give warranty on that, special on installation aftermarket ACX cooler.
But it's very expansive
I have both the Titan is faster than a 780 TI....
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/23 21:59:22
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Only Titan Black is faster than GTX780Ti, not normal Titan.
Titan is far behing GTX780Ti. It's not because it's most expensive.
I would like to buy Titan Black Superclocked or Signature because that's unique cards same as Classy and enough video memory.
Nobody had Titan Black overclocked and warranty on that.
That's only one more prove who is best NVIDIA. EVGA only OC Titan, Titan Black, Titan Z and launch ACX Cooler.
No one didn't had b**** to OC 1000$ and 3000$ cards and give warranty on that, special on installation aftermarket ACX cooler.
But it's very expansive
I have both the Titan is faster than a 780 TI....
No it's not faster. I would always chose reference GTX780Ti before Titan. Even GTX780 Classified was faster than Titan. Titan have only more video memory, less CUDA and slower base clock. Titan is 837MHz 2688 CUDA, GTX780Ti is 875MHz 2880 CUDA and games if you talk about fps recognize only that two things, nothing else. They don't know price and other advantages of Titan. Don't even to talk about non-reference version of GTX780Ti with 300MHz almost higher clock than Titan base, that's completely different card, their difference is bigger than GTX980 vs GTX970. Even Titan Black is slower more than 2000 Graphics Score than custom version of GTX780Ti... but all owners count to OC Titan Black at least 100MHz and to come very close custom GTX780Ti. Example if someone have Galaxy GTX780Ti HOF V2, GTX780Ti KP Classy, Inno3D Herculex Ultra, GIGABYTE GHz Edition and want to cross on Titan Black only hope is to force Titan Black to boost on 1140-1150MHz and to sat goodbay to 2-3 fps but because more video memory Titan Black is better option than same chip on 1200MHz boost, off course Titan Black than become hotter.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/23 22:10:15
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If the 295 is available for a decent price when I get back to the states, I will probably grab 2 of them for Folding.
I doubt I will grab 2 titan Z's though, maybe 1 to play with eventually.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/23 22:21:41
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Why I choose custom GTX780Ti... only because I saw nice scaling and huge difference from Titan Black in scores. Don't even to talk about normal Titan. Distributor in Serbia when I ask for GTX780Ti Classified immediately offer me Titan Black for 800e, price was 1050e in that time... I refuse to lose 2500 Graphics Points... Here Titan Black owners can help you, how much they need to OC card to reach 13.400 graphics score in Firestrike. You will see boost is over 1220-1230MHz... That's fabric score of GTX780Ti as KPC, HOF, HerculeZ Ultra,... No it's question did I made mistake... but I will never know that... If I could OC Titan Black to work on 140-150MHz than I made mistake. If he could work only on 70-80MHz than I didn't make mistake.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/23 23:32:48
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Why I choose custom GTX780Ti... only because I saw nice scaling and huge difference from Titan Black in scores.
Don't even to talk about normal Titan. Distributor in Serbia when I ask for GTX780Ti Classified immediately offer me Titan Black for 800e, price was 1050e in that time... I refuse to lose 2500 Graphics Points... Here Titan Black owners can help you, how much they need to OC card to reach 13.400 graphics score in Firestrike.
You will see boost is over 1220-1230MHz... That's fabric score of GTX780Ti as KPC, HOF, HerculeZ Ultra,...
No it's question did I made mistake... but I will never know that... If I could OC Titan Black to work on 140-150MHz than I made mistake.
If he could work only on 70-80MHz than I didn't make mistake.
You compare you Classified KP to everything. Remember, no titan comes with an upgraded VRM and binned chipset like the classified, so you are comparing an apple to a car. The titan was meant for a specific workload, yet you keep talking about benchmarks. The titan is not meant for that, so expecting it to so that is like expecting a car to fill your stomach when you eat it. I know it is a stupid analogy, but stop, for the love of God, comparing the classified to everything. If you want to see the titan compared to a Classified, we need K|ngp|n and T|n to mount an epower board and ln2 pot to a Titan black that has been binned. Until then, the difference is nothing near what you are comparing.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2014/12/26 11:44:11
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I have both the reference Titan & the reference 780Ti as well................ Since I own a DoubleSight DS-279W 27" 2560 x 1440 IPS monitor w/ 6ms GTG @ 60Hz refresh I can't tell the difference between the 2 as they both peg my monitor at 60Hz & run my games smoothly. All run on the same platform in sig below.............. This is w/ both set up at stock out-of-the-box speeds, even though the Titan's BIOS holds it's GPU approx. 40GHz slower than the 780Ti (max BIOS stock boost speed for my Titan is 980Ghz, my 780Ti is 1020Ghz). I also can't detect any difference that the increased mem speed of the 780Ti (7,000GHz) has over the Titan (6,000GHz) as the games I play only use 1.2Gb mem max. If I had a 27" 2560 x 1440 144Hz refresh monitor to compare them on I might see some separation between the 2 but since I don't..... Now when the Titan is set to use double precision vs the 780Ti (this is disabled in the 780Ti as it's sole purpose was meant for gaming) the results ain't even close.....Titan wins hands down. The only other difference I could see was that my Titan ran cooler when at max boost clocks than my 780Ti (62*C vs 68*C), maybe somewhat due to the 40 GHz GPU clock speed difference but I don't think this is soley responsible. I think that the mem speed clocks is what does it as IMHO Nvidia sped up the mem frequency to compensate for the decrease in mem capacity (3Gb for 780Ti vs 6Gb for Titan....both are GDDR 5) on the 780Ti vs Titan which WILL increase heat output on the 780Ti. They both have the vapor chamber cooler as I understand it so the temp difference is more or less apples to apples for comparison. So from my viewpoint unless they're being used at a much higher loading than the games/apps that I use the Titan is just as fast as the 780Ti in games. The Titan gets the crutch of being the 1st out the box along w/ the price premium but it IS a multi-purpose card whereas the 780Ti came later as Nvidia refined the Titan for a single purpose....to run games....and named it the 780Ti. The ref 780 is simply a Titan w/ double precision & 3Gb mem disabled........... I would expect the 780Ti to win out running games that do not fully saturate it's 3Gb mem capacity but can fully max out the GPU as this is where a 780Ti should beat the Titan since the 780Ti is a fully fleshed Kepler w/ all 15 SMX's enabled vs the Titan's 14.................... 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
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Since the rest of my post got cut out except for the smiley............................... The topic was concerning the Titan Z. I would like to get 1 for a keepsake for history but not for $1,500.00, much less $2,999.99. It is a one-of-a-kind card.....much like the 690 was & the 295 that came before it. 
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
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@valada001 You can bring up numbers on all the sites all you wish, but we all know that those sites don't always give the true performance numbers. I own a GTX 780 TI and a GTX Titan my own benches show stock vs stock my GTX Titan is beating my 780 TI by a good 400-900 points in every bench. Not to mention gaming performance has been a lot smoother on my Titan over my 780 TI. You also forgot that not all 780 TI's have the good Samsung vram.... You also forget ASIC quality that does affect boost clocks not just overclocks. My Titan is hitting 1200mhz when boost clock kicks in. My 475 dollar Titan>my 650 dollar 780 TI. As well in the performance bracket. Then you have double precision you have to take into account as well on the gaming side of things the 780 TI falls flat on its face in that department with newer more vram demanding games. Then for some one like me that the Titan was originally aimed at those logical processing cores keep my 3d modeling apps from crashing where yet again the 780 TI falls flat on its face. To follow reviews is pure foolish... so many times I see reviews and am going how did they get such poor numbers... what extra crap do they have going on that's hurting their performance... we see this time and time again.... and with that one review site just selling out, be ready to be stuck with even less reviewers...
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
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I would grab 2 titans if I could find them cheap, that is for sure.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
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I would grab 2 titans if I could find them cheap, that is for sure.
I agree here... I would definitely be doing the same but at the same time... I'd be choosing 2 x 780 Ti's ahead of 2 Titans if they were all the same price because I dont do anything but game and the Titans are not exactly meant for games. They game of course.. but like Scarlet said above, they arent meant for gaming but rather a tougher workload.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
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I agree here... I would definitely be doing the same but at the same time... I'd be choosing 2 x 780 Ti's ahead of 2 Titans if they were all the same price because I dont do anything but game and the Titans are not exactly meant for games. They game of course.. but like Scarlet said above, they arent meant for gaming but rather a tougher workload.
Actually the GTX 580, 680, 780, 780 TI all are the same gpu as their quadro counterparts, the only difference is they had their logical processing cores not printed on them or cut out of them, probably just not printed on them to cut cost, save on power consumption, slightly higher frequencies and lower heat... the last good true full Geforce card NVidia made was the GTX 480 that was the last of the full chips being included. Higher quality pcb's, best power delivery system of voltage regulators on the gpus for pure gaming cards.... the only thing setting the Titan/Titan Black and TitanZ is they have their logical processing cores still in place. Gamers don't use those at all though... nor do folders, and many of the people on these forums... Thus the 780/780 TI, and now the 970/980 is more for you. If you can get a Titan under 400-500 USD, or a Titan Black for Under 500-600 play at 1920x1080 I would jump on it if you have an older card or one that does not measure up to performance like a 680 or below. Because honestly a Single Titan will do all you want and more for just 1920x1080 gaming even with double precision enabled where a 780/780 TI falls flat on its face with more vram hungry games.... Now I would not pay top dollar for a titan of any flavor if your just gaming... even modeling... patience is a virtue.... and for the extra fps it offers, it was not worth 1k+ USD, unless you got one on day one of its release.... because your still going to get a good 3 more years out of the card just for gaming, if your doing 3d work you will have the card for a good 6-8 years more at the most...
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1 more item to add......................... I also believe that the Titan's other purpose in being created was to provide a single GPU solution that had enough power to run games well AND to utilize the FCAT frame timing process at the HARDWARE level to smooth out the graphic frame sequencing to eliminate frame drops & that GPU was the GK110 which was being used in the Tesla/Quadro cards at that time. Until Titan showed up the only card that Nvidia had that had the power do both was the GTX 690 which was using 2 GK104 GPU's.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2015/01/04 19:56:37
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Looks like by now Titan Black, let alone Titan Z, are completely gone and are out of stock everywhere. NewEgg, for instance, has already removed them from the list of SKUs, so that they don't show up at all, not just show as out of stock. We probably won't see them back in stock ever again, save for a few occasional parts being resold on eBay, etc.
Combined with a fact that Maxwell will not have full-speed FP64 parts, it will be a while, or maybe never, until we see anything comparable to Titan line of products.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2015/01/04 20:12:52
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Looks like by now Titan Black, let alone Titan Z, are completely gone and are out of stock everywhere. NewEgg, for instance, has already removed them from the list of SKUs, so that they don't show up at all, not just show as out of stock. We probably won't see them back in stock ever again, save for a few occasional parts being resold on eBay, etc.
Combined with a fact that Maxwell will not have full-speed FP64 parts, it will be a while, or maybe never, until we see anything comparable to Titan line of products.
3 in stock on Amazon... http://www.amazon.com/EVG...-3990-KR/dp/B00JZ4SN4C
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
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super items. my dream product.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2015/01/11 21:11:32
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lehpron...
Off-topic: You guys crack me up. Whenever this type of topic comes up, someone doesn't hesitate to criticize the price of things they can't get and even imply those interested are somehow less knowledgable. Yet these same thin-skinned folks will get defensive if someone with less money criticizes their budget as if they spent too much just because the other guy doesn't see a point for spending so much. Sound familiar? Talk about an utter loss of perspective. My former problem with the Titan Z (at a cost of 3,000 USD) is that its performance for the price was laughably horrible and there were alternatives to it that also came out from Nvidia (the same company) that outperform the Titan Z in every way (except perhaps maybe marginal power consumption differences) before the Titan Z even existed as an option. (Two Titan Blacks outperform a Titan Z, and at the time, for significantly less $. Enough to even build another new, halfway decent computer.) For me, being able to actually afford a Titan Z had nothing to do with my disdain for it. Why pay significantly more for less performance? (This is a rhetorical question.) Sorry if this offends anyone, but at its release the Titan Z was a joke and made me seriously question Nvidia's competence. Hope that helps clarify things for you and anyone else with similar misconceptions about what other people can afford and the reasons for their opinions.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2015/01/11 22:23:43
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Many people took offense that nVidia offered Titan-Z for $3000. It was it was a multi-punch against for 1) being a Titan, 2) being a dual-GPU, and 3) because people looked forward to a "GTX790" at a cheaper price. If you or anyone only judges performance per dollar for these types of products, that is awesome (until I can prove it a lie  ); but that doesn't mean the company is cray cray for pricing it based on features many disregarded from the DP capability to typical benefits of dual-GPU cards due to using less power and take up less space than a similar performing pair of cards.
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Re: EVGA GeForce GTX TITAN Z 12GB GDDR5
2015/01/12 18:23:01
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I wasn't discounting DP nor memory capacity capability comparisons, unlike many others that do these sorts of comparisons. That's why I mentioned the Titan Blacks specifically instead of other card offerings from Nvidia which can perform just as well for gaming for less money than Titan Blacks and of course Titan Zs.
In the off chance that sacrificing some total performance potential in exchange for some power efficiency improvements and using one less PCIe slot and/or expansion slot was worth an extra 1,000 USD to someone, then fair enough, but that doesn't mean that Nvidia wasn't "cray cray" for charging 3,000 USD for a Titan Z.
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