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Sometimes the reporters can be a bit insensitive during a crisis in the way they report the story until this reporter finds out she knows one of the victims personally live on air. The mother of three was killed it was reported trying to shield a heavily pregnant friend from the terrorist during the siege.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
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Vs being insensitive and posting this video? Two wrongs don't make a right.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/16 05:30:19
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Sometimes the reporters can be a bit insensitive during a crisis in the way they report the story until this reporter finds out she knows one of the victims personally live on air. The mother of three was killed it was reported trying to shield a heavily pregnant friend from the terrorist during the siege.
What's the difference between a "heavily pregnant" woman and a pregnant woman? What's the rest of the story to this? In other words, when and what happened here?
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/16 09:45:32
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Wonder if they will try to sue gun mfg like the idiots in sandy hook are doing. Lets sue the fork & spoon mfg for making us fat.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
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Wonder if they will try to sue gun mfg like the idiots in sandy hook are doing. Lets sue the fork & spoon mfg for making us fat.
Tell me about it!!! While I feel sorry for the folks that lost their children in that incident, suing the gun manufacturer is just out of control. If this is successful, it will set off a chain reaction that will put many-a-company out of business. Sometimes in a tragedy, there is just no-one to blame. But, in the case of Sandy hook, they should try blaming the shooter... Oh wait, he and his mother are dead... No way to extract money from someone lying 6ft under, so lets go after the gun manufacturer. I hate to break it to them, but they aren't going to feel any better if they win this frivolous lawsuit. Wonder who they will try to blame and extract money from next?
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/16 12:40:26
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Wonder if they will try to sue gun mfg like the idiots in sandy hook are doing. Lets sue the fork & spoon mfg for making us fat.
He's eating with his hands!!! CUT THEM OFF BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/17 09:37:41
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Good thing the police were not able to intervene. Only God knows how many more innocent teenage minorities would have been harmed or worse.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/18 22:49:44
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Good thing the police were not able to intervene. Only God knows how many more innocent teenage minorities would have been harmed or worse.
you do know this was in Australia... so yeah way to show your ignorant blind bias about the subject. Oh and BTW the police did intervene. The Sandy hook parents are just dragging their children's death through the mud. I think heavily pregnant does sound odd, maybe late term would sound better. How are those strict gun laws working out? Didn't do much to stop this one did it. Criminals don't obey laws....
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 01:46:58
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How are those strict gun laws working out?
I'm fairly sure the crazy guy would have shot more people if he had an assault rifle instead of a shotgun.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 04:23:35
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How are those strict gun laws working out?
I'm fairly sure the crazy guy would have shot more people if he had an assault rifle instead of a shotgun.
proof? I can can do more damage in a confined space with a pump shotgun then my ar-15. He did kill 2, wound 4 of 17 total people. He (NOT IF) had enough time he could have done more had he so chosen.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 05:01:30
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Shotguns in close proximity can damage more people at once.
As for so called "assault rifles" ..there's no such thing. An AR-15 is just a rifle. stop buying the media bull****...
No, AR doesn't stand for Assault Rifle. It stands for Armalite. Armalite Model 15. AR-15. It's a 5.56 chambered rifle (and can also fire .223 rounds).. That it's used in the military is irrelevant. They could use a semi-auto .223 ..*shrug*
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 05:30:19
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"I'm fairly sure the crazy guy would have shot more people if he had an assault rifle instead of a shotgun."
Unbelievable - just assuming 00Buck that is 9 .33 Caliber bullets per round (multiply by the number of rounds) and much less skill to use. The stigma some people have against AR's because of how they look.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
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"I'm fairly sure the crazy guy would have shot more people if he had an assault rifle instead of a shotgun."
Unbelievable - just assuming 00Buck that is 9 .33 Caliber bullets per round (multiply by the number of rounds) and much less skill to use. The stigma some people have against AR's because of how they look.
It's that evil black plastic. *shrug* Oh, and the collapsible stock and pistol grip...and the bayonet lug that is completely useless unless you're fighting hand to hand.. Anti-gun whacks don't really have a clue what they're talking about.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
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It's that evil black plastic. *shrug* Oh, and the collapsible stock and pistol grip...and the bayonet lug that
is completely useless unless you're fighting hand to hand..
Anti-gun whacks don't really have a clue what they're talking about.
You got that right!! They are clueless!! One day they will learn and hopefully, for them, it won't be the hard way... By then it will be too late.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 07:35:15
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The strict gun laws in Australia apply to pump action shotguns, but regular shotguns are easily obtainable. A manual reload shotgun is in the same weapon class as a paintball gun and can be bought by the average person.
The media are saying it's a pump action gun, but it's only been confirmed that he fired 2 shots and it was his bullets that killed the 2 people.
The police had the automatic weapons and fired a boatload of bullets, and 4 days after the incident there are still no details on who shot the other victims.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 07:51:45
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pbniel
"I'm fairly sure the crazy guy would have shot more people if he had an assault rifle instead of a shotgun."
Unbelievable - just assuming 00Buck that is 9 .33 Caliber bullets per round (multiply by the number of rounds) and much less skill to use. The stigma some people have against AR's because of how they look.
It's that evil black plastic. *shrug* Oh, and the collapsible stock and pistol grip...and the bayonet lug that
is completely useless unless you're fighting hand to hand..
Anti-gun whacks don't really have a clue what they're talking about.
I always like to ask the typical anti gunner which of the following should be banned;   They ALWAYS say the bottom one, thus proving their ignorance and that their desire to ban it is based not on fact, but an emotional response to the looks of the rifle. They're the same rifle, by the way, just dressed differently. The Ruger Mini 14. ETA What happened in Australia is a tragedy and my thoughts go out to the victims and their families. Just goes to show that evil doesn't care about your feel good laws. Justin
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 08:10:59
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I like the Mini-14, nice weapon. Ruger makes quality.
As to evil not caring..nope..and it never will. The only thing those laws do is hurt
law abiding citizens. Criminals don't give a ...
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 08:22:58
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How are those strict gun laws working out?
Really well actually. If you add it all up Australia has less than 1 firearm related fatality per 100,000 people. The U.S. is over 10......and Australia started as a penal colony for goodness sakes lol. It isn't about banning guns, I have 4 guns now and really enjoy them. It is just about stricter regulation and enforcement.....not bad things when you are dealing with something that can kill you by moving your finger a 1/4".
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 09:04:46
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How are those strict gun laws working out?
Really well actually. If you add it all up Australia has less than 1 firearm related fatality per 100,000 people. The U.S. is over 10......and Australia started as a penal colony for goodness sakes lol.
It isn't about banning guns, I have 4 guns now and really enjoy them. It is just about stricter regulation and enforcement.....not bad things when you are dealing with something that can kill you by moving your finger a 1/4".
Not exactly what that meant..but I can see the inability to understand exuding from you. Criminal. Doesn't obey the law. Doesn't matter how many laws you enact. Won't obey them. If inclined, I assure you said person will find a way to get what they want. So who have you hurt with your excessively STUPID laws? Oh, that's right ...only people who obey laws. ie: Non-criminals.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 09:13:17
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yay, another gun law arguing thread on a computer hardware forum!
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 10:54:59
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Wasn't arguing, I was exuding.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 11:59:30
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Another tragic loss of life no matter how you look at it. Sounds like it was lucky more people weren't killed.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 12:16:07
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Really well actually. If you add it all up Australia has less than 1 firearm related fatality per 100,000 people. The U.S. is over 10......and Australia started as a penal colony for goodness sakes lol.
Um... Are you just throwing words out there to shore up your personal opinion? Because this chart says something completely different (First click of the mouse on Google, not sure of it's accuracy BTW)... ( Link) Quote/ Reid's final chart is also interesting. In order to find nations similar to the United States and Mexico on guns, you have to allow every country in the world into the data set, even ones with ongoing wars: Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/shooting-gun-laws-2012-12#ixzz3MNQIJZVP /Quote 
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 12:17:12
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Another tragic loss of life no matter how you look at it. Sounds like it was lucky more people weren't killed.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 12:52:42
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OOOOOOOOOOOO... Let the truth come out!! Australia is a bunch of gun toting' cowboys!!! Y'all should really do something about that!!! Maybe if you had more gun regulation? Australian's just don't care about human life!!!  Y'all don't need all those guns for protection. Crocodile Dundee protected himself with just a knife!!! 
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 14:26:46
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As far as suing gun manufacturers is concerned, they cant legally do that in the U.S. due to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act. The only way a lawsuit like that would be successful was if the manufacturer was pumping out weapons and giving them to crazy/radical people on their doorstep. At the end of the day it comes down to mental illness and proper gun control (ie. locking them up, not banning them).
I still believe that mental illness is one of the biggest factors in unprovoked shootings in the U.S. and they have sadly not addressed that yet.
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Re: Raw reporter emotion about Sydney tragedy
2014/12/19 16:38:15
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Um... Are you just throwing words out there to shore up your personal opinion?
Because this chart says something completely different (First click of the mouse on Google, not sure of it's accuracy BTW)... (Link)
Quote/ Reid's final chart is also interesting. In order to find nations similar to the United States and Mexico on guns, you have to allow every country in the world into the data set, even ones with ongoing wars:
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/shooting-gun-laws-2012-12#ixzz3MNQIJZVP /Quote
Absolutely I am. Nice chart.....now read my comment yet again because I think you missed something.
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