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2014/11/27 18:59:30 (permalink)
Been out of the computer world for a few years and am way behind on what's what these days. Looking to do a few upgrades but not sure which yet.
Current build is below. I know real world would be best to get a new Mobo and GPU. I was thinking of just upgrading to a newer GPU for now and maybe a new MB and cpu next year. I had my eyes set on the 980 hydrocopper since I am set up for water cooling but then had the thought that there maybe a better setup for the same money? Looking to spend around $800, would prefer to keep the cards on water so that would be an added expense but I could get blocks after Christmas if need be. Would a couple of 970s be a better investment? Or would a mobo and processor be a better upgrade right now? Machine used to be a full time folder when not playing games. Would like to get back into folding and gaming now that I have decent internet again. Open for suggestions or ideas guys. Thanks
ASUS P6T Deluxe v2 x58 chip motherboard
i7 920 running at 3780
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    boredgunner
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/27 19:12:39 (permalink)
    A GPU is the best upgrade for both gaming and folding.  Based on your Mods Rigs profile, you will be using a 1080p screen?  If so, a GTX 970 is all you need and a GTX 980 is extreme overkill for 1080p, and even at larger resolutions it isn't that much slower.  If you ditch the water cooled GPU idea, getting a GTX 970 leaves you with $470, which should be able to get you a Z97, 8GB DDR3 1600 or higher, and an i5 4690k, giving you the best of both worlds.
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/27 19:27:35 (permalink)
    I would look into mobo/cpu first.
    I think the 980 would bottleneck with that setup and you wouldn't get full potential. 

     

     
     
     
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 04:38:35 (permalink)
    Ok thanks for the ideas guys. I'll look into that way also when I get to work today.
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 05:54:05 (permalink)
    +1 for a new GPU. My 970 destroys every game ive played at 1080p. You will see a massive spike in performance over a GTX 285.

     
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 09:46:01 (permalink)
     
    A 970 would be fine.

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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 17:32:26 (permalink)
    Would a 980 really bottleneck an i7 920 running at 3780? It's old but still a pretty capable CPU. Especially at 3780.

      
       
     
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 19:37:30 (permalink)
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    Would a 980 really bottleneck an i7 920 running at 3780? It's old but still a pretty capable CPU. Especially at 3780.




    I don't think it has ever been tested so it's hard to say.  But a GTX 980 is overkill for 1080p anyway, I think a 970 and a Haswell setup is the way to go.


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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 21:04:22 (permalink)
    Just food for thought. 
     
    Friend last year was always bouncing ideas off of me and I had no idea he was running a i7-980X system.  Once I found out about told him to just upgrade his crappy GTX 590 for a GTX 780.  Anyways he went ahead and upgraded to a i7-4770K on a MSI M Power board with two GTX 780s and have been happy with it since.  The thing however that stood out to me about his comment besides the graphics update and how smooth it was that day to day stuff was even faster and was actually noticeable.  I know his 980X was underwater so it was probably sitting above the 3.3Ghz mark, like his 4770k is under sitting around 4.3Ghz everyday clock. 
     
    So yeah look into your MOBO and CPU down the line.  But as for immediate band-aid a GPU upgrade will help
     IE BF3 GTX 285 at 1920x1080 = 24fps
            GTX 650Ti  at 1920x1080 = 40fps
    And the 650Ti is a pretty junky POS card. 

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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 21:41:49 (permalink)
    Gonna go with a 970 and possibly order a new PSU so in a few months I can upgrade the MOBO and CPU and add another 970. Any suggestions for an EVGA PSU that would fit the bill? Also the new ACX cards are still standard cards with a special cooler so no special water block is needed for them right or do they require a special block? Liking the 970FTW card for only $50 more than a standard 970.
     
     
    Looking at future things here but would 2 970s play at 4k very well? Just don't want to be wishing I had more in the near future. Debating getting one of these fancy new 4k tvs for the bedroom and thinking it would make a nice monitor since it hangs right above the computer.
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/28 23:21:45 (permalink)
    Every review website says it can do 4K but you know was tech and software goes on it'll probably grind to a halt in two or so years.
     
    Yes the GTX 970 FTW with the ACX 2.0 is just a air cooled GPU so no special thing is needed.
     
    As for your PSU question if you have to keep it EVGA, their 750~850 PSU offering is more than enough for your build.

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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/29 00:38:09 (permalink)
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    Would a 980 really bottleneck an i7 920 running at 3780? It's old but still a pretty capable CPU. Especially at 3780.



    If it does I can't see it bottle necking to much. If you are really worried you can pick up x5650 for $70 nowadays and its pretty much a 980x without the unlocked multiplier. From the scores I get with my x5650/gtx980 it doesn't look to be bottle necking in games I've played so far (crysis 3, AC2/3, murdered soul suspect). At 1080 i've been abe to max them all out so far. 
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/29 03:58:15 (permalink)
    I've got a 920 at 4.2ghz, and a pair of 980's in SLI at 1440p.  Although the cards certainly are bottlenecked to some extent due to the processor and chipset, they still are a massive improvement over my 580's.  The sort of bottleneck we're talking about here is simply that the cards could run a bit faster and with higher performance if the CPU was a bit faster and the chipset allowed for higher performance.  However, they aren't bottlenecked in a way that the performance is more like a pair of 580's than 980's.
     
    In other words, I wouldn't worry about the processor being the reason you shouldn't upgrade.  I would worry a little about having only 6GB of memory, and maybe think of upgrading to 12GB.  Beyond that, a motherboard upgrade should be on your to-do list, but you'll notice bigger gains at first with a new card.
     
     

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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/11/29 04:24:51 (permalink)
    im upgrading from my X58 950@ 3.8  system now.
    i found on newegg a combo deal,
    asus maximus VII hero board,I7 4790K,and 2X8gig of gskill trident serries X  DDR 2133 memory,got it for $684.99.
     
    add my evga 980 super clocked and a 1 TB WD raptor and i should have a pretty good system.
     



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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/12/01 09:30:47 (permalink)
    Ok just when I think I figure things out cyber Monday makes things difficult. The x97 classified looks like a good buy along with a 4970 or 4790 i7, don't remember the exact number but it's the 4.0 processor with 4.4 boost clock. Then upgrade to some more ram and rock on. Along with a single 970. Tried playing BF4 last night and that was an epic fail. Looks like ddr3 has dropped quiet a bit in price now also so that's another plus.
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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/12/01 10:28:57 (permalink)
    Thats the beauty of this... with the X99/DDR4 components hitting the street, the "older" stuff is getting cheaper. Awesome part is that for gaming (and most other uses), there is no real need to step up to the newer components and their price ranges. That said, I think a 4790k and a 970 will do you well until you decide to step up to a much higher resolution... at which point adding a second 970 would be a very cost effective solution. 

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    Re: Looking for options/opinions 2014/12/01 10:35:39 (permalink)
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    Ok just when I think I figure things out cyber Monday makes things difficult. The x97 classified looks like a good buy along with a 4970 or 4790 i7, don't remember the exact number but it's the 4.0 processor with 4.4 boost clock. Then upgrade to some more ram and rock on. Along with a single 970. Tried playing BF4 last night and that was an epic fail. Looks like ddr3 has dropped quiet a bit in price now also so that's another plus.



    Might want to do research on EVGA MOBO's before jumping in and buying one.  I know during the Z77 and X79 era they where major crap in the BIOS.  I know Z87 started out pretty shaky also...  I haven't paid attention to Z97 but do some digging to see if owners are happy with long term ownership before jumping into one man...

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